Urbannizer Posted May 2, 2013 Share Posted May 2, 2013 Two Austin developers are proposing a $500 million mixed-use project downtown that — if it happens — would change the skyline with three new towers, including a high-rise with condominiums and hotel rooms that could become Austin’s tallest building. Mac Pike and Wally Scott, principals in the Sutton Co., a real estate investment and development company, told the American-Statesman they want to build their project — tentatively called Waller Center — on 3 acres near East Cesar Chavez and Red River streets, along the banks of Waller Creek. Read More: http://www.statesman.com/news/business/proposed-project-3-downtown-towers-one-up-to-65-st/nXdk3/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urbannizer Posted September 3, 2013 Author Share Posted September 3, 2013 New Rendering: 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TowerSpotter Posted September 3, 2013 Share Posted September 3, 2013 Whoa, that is going to the tallest building in Austin right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urbannizer Posted September 3, 2013 Author Share Posted September 3, 2013 Whoa, that is going to the tallest building in Austin right?Yep. It's expected to be around 750' - 800' feet. There's alao a hotel planned for another site across the street that will be 691' feet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TowerSpotter Posted September 3, 2013 Share Posted September 3, 2013 Yep. It's expected to be around 750' - 800' feet. There's alao a hotel planned for another site across the street that will be 691' feet. I am guessing the Fairmont? A lot of good things are happening in Austin, I am loving the transformation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jackwood Posted September 3, 2013 Share Posted September 3, 2013 Keep Austin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fortune Posted September 3, 2013 Share Posted September 3, 2013 WoW Austin is getting some impressive developments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lockmat Posted September 3, 2013 Share Posted September 3, 2013 Is Austin zoned to only allow tall buildings downtown? Is this the reason why they're getting so many? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TowerSpotter Posted September 3, 2013 Share Posted September 3, 2013 Is Austin zoned to only allow tall buildings downtown? Is this the reason why they're getting so many? I wouldn't think so because there are a couple of buildings being built/proposed in downtown under 20 stories. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lockmat Posted September 3, 2013 Share Posted September 3, 2013 I wouldn't think so because there are a couple of buildings being built/proposed in downtown under 20 stories.Sorry, I meant is their downtown the only place they're allowed to build tall buildings? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TowerSpotter Posted September 3, 2013 Share Posted September 3, 2013 Sorry, I meant is their downtown the only place they're allowed to build tall buildings? In that case, I wouldn't know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urbannizer Posted September 4, 2013 Author Share Posted September 4, 2013 Sorry, I meant is their downtown the only place they're allowed to build tall buildings? There's also the Rainey district -- rezoned in 2004 to encourage more development near the convention center. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urbannizer Posted March 20, 2014 Author Share Posted March 20, 2014 New design, all three towers will begin construction at the same time. 46-floors, 38-floors, and 21-floors http://www.ibigroup.com/projects/waller-park-place Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDawg512 Posted March 23, 2014 Share Posted March 23, 2014 This is likely not the final design as this project is still being tweeked. A New York City based company has signed on as the financial backer and the tallest tower may still rise over 50 stories. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDawg512 Posted March 23, 2014 Share Posted March 23, 2014 (edited) In that case, I wouldn't know.Downtown Austin is currently the only area in the city that is zoned for major highrise towers though that will change once the remaining lots open for development are snatched up. There is a series of Capitol View Corridors that radiate from the State Capitol Building. In these areas, buildings are not allowed to be built over 15 floors.However outside of the CVC's there are lots that have no height limit therefore a developer could build as tall as they deem feasible. There are also some other specific height overlays such as the Riverfront Overlay which keeps highrises from being built right up to the Colorado River. It is mostly a step back requirement. There is a height limit within the Warehouse District as well.I used to think these were limiters for tall buildings in Austin but they actually create an environment that requires development to build up rather than out. There CVC's are a great example of this as we have highrises such as the 360 and Spring Towers which part of their lots have are within a CVC. The result being the developers had to build up. Instead of 360 being a 26 floor residential building, it rises to 44 stories. Spring rises to 43 stories, it is actually wedged between two CVCs. There are a couple of CVC's that could be removed but overall they have been beneficial to the city.The Warehouse District is one of the many entertainment districts within Downtown. The cool thing about the Overlay is it has created an island surrounded by highrises on all sides. You can go to the many rooftop clubs and restaurants and enjoy awesome views of the city. Edited March 23, 2014 by JDawg512 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
towerjunkie Posted March 23, 2014 Share Posted March 23, 2014 Almost fell out of my chair reading the slightly misleading title, anyways that's great for Austin! For some reason I prefer the second rendering of the complex as opposed to the newest or maybe I need new glasses... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDawg512 Posted March 23, 2014 Share Posted March 23, 2014 Almost fell out of my chair reading the slightly misleading title, anyways that's great for Austin! For some reason I prefer the second rendering of the complex as opposed to the newest or maybe I need new glasses...Im half and half on the recent renderings. I really think there will be new ones released by summer. This is a huge project with a very prominent location. With this project and the Fairmont across the street, these towers will totally dominate over I-35 coming in from both north and south. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UtterlyUrban Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 Is there a target ground breaking for these? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDawg512 Posted May 7, 2014 Share Posted May 7, 2014 Latest I have heard is in a month or two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paco Jones Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 (edited) 74-Story Total of +/- 2,700,000 SF. Building height of 1,021 FT. Lincoln Property Company / Kairoi Residential are developing Waller Creek, a 74 story MIXED-USE project located near Lady Bird Lake in downtown Austin, Texas. The project consists of a parking structure with 3 levels below grade and 12 above, a 240 key 5 star hotel, 25 levels of office tower, and 34 levels/363 units of residential space. Kohn Pederson Fox Associates has been selected as the Design Architect along with HKS Architects as the architect of record. WALLER CREEK will be developed by a joint venture of LPC and Kairoi on approximately 3 acres of land at the Southwest corner of West Cesar Chavez Street and Red River Street. The current program consists of: a) +/- 2,582,413 GSF as defined by BOMA of mixed use, corporate office, hotel, and residential located in one (1) 74 story building. b) The first and second floor of the seventy-four ( 74 ) story tower will include an office lobby, a hotel lobby, and retail space (fit out by others). c) Levels 14 and 15 features an office amenity space. d) Levels 41,42,43, and 74 features a residential amenity space. e) +/- 1,780 space parking structure +/- 909,968 GSF as defined by BOMA on three levels below grade and twelve levels above grade. f) Levels 01 thru 16 podium include a 240 key 4 star hotel. g) Parking structure features exterior screened walls and office/residential tower features. Edit: Corrected building height Edited November 6, 2020 by Paco Jones Corrected building height 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urbannizer Posted November 5, 2020 Author Share Posted November 5, 2020 @Paco Jones What’s the building height without sea level factored in? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paco Jones Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 2 hours ago, Urbannizer said: @Paco Jones What’s the building height without sea level factored in? My mistake. It is 1,021 FT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoda Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 1 hour ago, Paco Jones said: My mistake. It is 1,021 FT. New tallest in Texas. I wonder if this pushes developers to build something taller here in Houston and/or Dallas. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoda Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 (edited) @Paco Jones You're famous https://austin.towers.net/downtown-austins-first-supertall-tower-plan-arrives-at-waller-creek-site/ "Plans for the western tract, also known by the address 98 Red River, were leaked along with some renderings earlier this week by a user named Paco Jones on development website Houston Architecture Info, showing a 74-story tower containing a total of 2.7 million square feet." Edited November 6, 2020 by Yoda Added quote 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoda Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 Posted by "The ATX" on https://skyscraperpage.com/forum/showthread.php?t=199012&page=278 Here's another rendering of 98 Red River with a nice view of the project's second tower 99 Red River. The third building is a rendering of Tower 1 in the approved Travis Towers project. Tower 1 ~600' and Tower 2 is ~700'. Though people on that forum seem to believe @Paco Jones renderings are more recent. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoda Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 Posted by "CTroyMathis" on https://skyscraperpage.com/forum/showthread.php?t=199012&page=279 "Just a heads up for this thread also, the FAA received a request last week for 1025 FT for the 98 Red River site. If you were looking for it searching Austin, you probably wouldn't have found it. Someone submitted the wrong city, but, all else is correct including map, lat, long. https://oeaaa.faa.gov/oeaaa/external...257981&row=359" 1025 FT means this will indeed be the tallest in Texas. This was posted on the same page by "The ATX" 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urbannizer Posted January 8 Author Share Posted January 8 1/7 by me Signage 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H-Town Man Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 (edited) This one will not win many plaudits for looks. The facade reminds me of the fake brick rolled asphalt that people used to put on the sides of their houses. Edited January 28 by H-Town Man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kbates2 Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 Looks better than our supertalls, unfortunately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxConcrete Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 (edited) The Austin Business Journal recently (28-Jan-21) posted a report with a summary of downtown high-rise activity, including planned and rumored projects. There is no mention of this project, 98 Red River. This is what the article says about the tallest building in Austin Quote 19. Unnamed (321 W. Sixth St.) Minneapolis-based Ryan Companies is moving forward with its plans to build what could be the second-tallest high-rise in Austin. The proposed 60-story apartment and office high-rise at the southeast corner of West Sixth and Guadalupe streets would be two stories higher than The Independent, but six stories shorter than 6 X Guadalupe (which would be built across the street). The most recent plans call for 390 luxury apartments – 27 more than previously reported – and 96,000 square feet of class A office space. Ryan Companies also recently confirmed that construction is expected to start in early fourth quarter of this year. The project is still in the design and permitting phase. This project is the closest mentioned to the site of 98 Red River Quote 20. The Travis/M2 project (80 Red River St.) Towers have long been floated for this site. A new proposal emerged Jan. 27, when M2 Development Partners announced plans for a 64-story tower with a mix of apartments, condos and hotel rooms. The Austin-American Statesman reported groundbreaking is possible in April 2022, with completion possible in third quarter 2025. This is the same address where Genesis Real Estate Group has floated plans for multiple towers under the project name The Travis. It is quite mind-boggling to have 43 projects in this report, although of course many are planned and some won't happen. This boom is mostly because it is difficult, expensive and/or impossible to build adequate new housing in Silicon Valley and San Francisco, so the tech industry has to overflow to someplace, and for the moment the preferred overflow location is Austin. Most of the projects are in the 30-to-50 floor range, which is similar to what we see in Houston, so Austin is subject to the same height limits that apply to new Houston buildings. I agree with Kbates2 that the rendering is a much more attractive building than Houston's JPMorganChase or Wells Fargo buildings. Urbanizzer's 1/7 photo shows there is something going on at the site. It seems strange there is no mention by the ABJ. Edited February 1 by MaxConcrete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strickn Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 (edited) Kbates2 is right to use supertall to mean buildings in the 300-600m range. But Transco/Williams at 275m still has more appeal than this one. This 98 Red River design is like a joke that's especially edgy because it's at the exact present edge of political correctness but if you were to hear the comedian again in a decade it would be a useless joke. The best possible outcome is that, if equally tall towers are ever built near I-35 on the old waterfront newspaper headquarters site, then they will form a visually dramatic river gateway together with this. Edited February 1 by strickn 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H-Town Man Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 (edited) On 1/28/2021 at 2:12 PM, kbates2 said: Looks better than our supertalls, unfortunately. This one is pretty handsome if you ask me. A refined, integrated composition, not three separate modules that look like they were all designed independently and stuck together. Edited February 2 by H-Town Man 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houston19514 Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 On 1/31/2021 at 8:18 PM, MaxConcrete said: The Austin Business Journal recently (28-Jan-21) posted a report with a summary of downtown high-rise activity, including planned and rumored projects. There is no mention of this project, 98 Red River. This is what the article says about the tallest building in Austin This project is the closest mentioned to the site of 98 Red River It is quite mind-boggling to have 43 projects in this report, although of course many are planned and some won't happen. This boom is mostly because it is difficult, expensive and/or impossible to build adequate new housing in Silicon Valley and San Francisco, so the tech industry has to overflow to someplace, and for the moment the preferred overflow location is Austin. Most of the projects are in the 30-to-50 floor range, which is similar to what we see in Houston, so Austin is subject to the same height limits that apply to new Houston buildings. I agree with Kbates2 that the rendering is a much more attractive building than Houston's JPMorganChase or Wells Fargo buildings. Urbanizzer's 1/7 photo shows there is something going on at the site. It seems strange there is no mention by the ABJ. I'm not sure exactly why, but I've been pretty skeptical about that 98 Red River project since it first came to light. Perhaps the Austin Business Journal shares my skepticism (or knows even more). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kbates2 Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 28 minutes ago, Houston19514 said: I'm not sure exactly why, but I've been pretty skeptical about that 98 Red River project since it first came to light. Perhaps the Austin Business Journal shares my skepticism (or knows even more). Two sides of that for me: On one hand, even when I searched online to find more about it, the articles that I found had a HAIF poster as their only source. On the other hand, that poster was Paco Jones who is almost always correct. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H-Town Man Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 We have some pretty detailed renderings including architectural plans, an FAA request, and signage up at the site. Short of a catastrophe, it looks like this is happening. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montrose1100 Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 This one is fresh and it's modern, but for Texas' new tallest, I'm disappointed. Would look great complimenting an iconic piece like the Petronas Towers, Willis Tower, Freedom Tower, or the Burj Khalifa. The base is also this giant plateau. And why do mixed-use buildings have to ensure the onlookers know that each use is clearly displayed & separated in the design? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigereye Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 (edited) On 11/11/2020 at 7:28 PM, Yoda said: Posted by "The ATX" on https://skyscraperpage.com/forum/showthread.php?t=199012&page=278 Here's another rendering of 98 Red River with a nice view of the project's second tower 99 Red River. The third building is a rendering of Tower 1 in the approved Travis Towers project. Tower 1 ~600' and Tower 2 is ~700'. Though people on that forum seem to believe @Paco Jones renderings are more recent. Will be interesting to see if both 80 Red River (64 fl, 802’) and 98 Red River (74 fo, 1025’) both get built. Is this the only render with both skyscrapers shown? Edited February 9 by tigereye Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoustonIsHome Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 On 2/2/2021 at 11:40 PM, H-Town Man said: We have some pretty detailed renderings including architectural plans, an FAA request, and signage up at the site. Short of a catastrophe, it looks like this is happening. Any chance that it gets scaled down? Austin has been pretty hot the last few decades but that's a ton of huge buildings going up or in the works Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.