Urbannizer Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 A second high-rise may be on the way as well: The land team is bringing two more sites to market there now—one at West Dallas and 45 and the other cattycorner to the Superblock (it might go high-rise as well). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lithiumaneurysm Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 It'd be crazy if both of these towers came to fruition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZKB9 Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 Midtown is on fire! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triton Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 Who owns the land between Francis and Stuart on Main next to MATCH? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lockmat Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 Midtown is on fire! Don't underestimate the ability of Houston developers to downsize projects hehe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naviguessor Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 ^^ Or Upsize them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lockmat Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 ^^ Or Upsize them. like Hines' 609 and...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triton Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 like Hines' 609 and...?Yea, the track record of this city up sizing projects hasn't been that great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naviguessor Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 Nailed it! ;-)But, it's not a "houston developers" pattern. I've lived/followed other cities with truly dissaponting developer downsizing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urbannizer Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 like Hines' 609 and...?2929 Weslayan, Astoria, BHP Billiton Tower, Élan Heights, Market Square Tower, Camden Conte, Regent SquareI think there has been more upsizing as of late than downsizing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillip_white Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 This is awesome news! Cookie cutter townhouses and mid-rises with GFR are great for infill, but this is the kind of development that we need for long-term growth. I'm excited to hear about the details when they become available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloud713 Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 Sweeet! About time midtown.. About time... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UtterlyUrban Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 I am torn a bit......Good news, true. But, I just seem to feel that we need LOTS of folks living in Downtown and Midtown and we need a variety of options for folks to chose from. I just seem to think that midtown should "feel" mid-rise (or shorter) and downtown should "feel" high-rise. Townhomes won't be built in downtown. They should be built in mid-town. Highrises will be built in downtown. They shouldn't be built in midtown.Of course, none of that has any logic to it, it's just they way I feel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lockmat Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 I am torn a bit......Good news, true. But, I just seem to feel that we need LOTS of folks living in Downtown and Midtown and we need a variety of options for folks to chose from. I just seem to think that midtown should "feel" mid-rise (or shorter) and downtown should "feel" high-rise.Townhomes won't be built in downtown. They should be built in mid-town.Highrises will be built in downtown. They shouldn't be built in midtown.Of course, none of that has any logic to it, it's just they way I feel. I'm guessing the term highrise is used loosely in this context. I'm thinking no more than 10-12 stories, although it'd be cool if it was more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luminare Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 Rule No. 32: Pics or it never happened Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lockmat Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 From Bisnow: ARA's Clark Dalton, David Marshall, Tim Dosch, and Tom Dosch (who graciously got up early to meet us at Le Peep) tell us they've handled ninenew apartment development deals in Midtown and the immediate area in the last 15 months. Two of the big ones are Morgan's building on Smith and a redevelopment site on Main. The latter—right on the rail line a few blocks south of the Superblock—is proposed to be the first high-rise in the submarket. Could this be the site? Also, do we know about all those "future development" projects already? http://arausa.listinglab.com//MidtownRedevelopmentSite/index.cfm?#&panel1-1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triton Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 Who owns the land between Francis and Stuart on Main next to MATCH? I believe so. That's why I asked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moore713 Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 I have always felt main st leads itself to towers and offices, as well as high rises.. Once you get of main , then you can scale down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lockmat Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 I have always felt main st leads itself to towers and offices, as well as high rises.. Once you get of main , then you can scale down Line Main w/ "short" high rises and scale down eastward and westward, I like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luminare Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 Line Main w/ "short" high rises and scale down eastward and westward, I like it. This implies that we have city planners who understand building scale, city design, and general composition and organization. You are asking a lot here lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lockmat Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 This implies that we have city planners who understand building scale, city design, and general composition and organization. You are asking a lot here lol Well, I'm sure the market will dictate it anyway since no doubt the lots next to the rail are worth much more than those not. If city planners mandated they be high rises, all the midrises currently planned and already built on it wouldn't exist. Houston wins again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toxtethogrady Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 Something tells me the upsizing/downsizing is developers testing the waters and adjusting accordingly. That said, the continued lament of developers that there just aren't enough available lots in the city would tend to favor denser development. Of course, their creative ability to cram 6 rowhouses into a lot that used to hold one old house is unparalleled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ctaf Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 I thought Midtown had a lot more available land than shown in the map above. I guess I've always had this picture in my head of lots of surface parking lots in midtown, I guess I merged it with downtown. Does east of main have more available land? I need to get out more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toxtethogrady Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 Parking lots aren't really available until the owners decide to sell or redevelop. I'm getting the impression, from HBJ and other sources, that there just aren't many parcels that anyone wants to part with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Pragmatist Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 A second high-rise may be on the way as well: I've been wondering what would become of the lots bounded by Arthur, Saulnier, Crosby, Andrews, Heiner, and W. Dallas. With those great skyline views, I can't imagine they'll be empty too terribly long into the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LTAWACS Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 About time... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triton Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 About time... HAHAHA!! LTAWACS' request came true......... well, probably. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 HAHAHA!! LTAWACS' request came true......... well, probably. Ok, I admit it took me a second to get it, but that's flat funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 I thought Midtown had a lot more available land than shown in the map above. I guess I've always had this picture in my head of lots of surface parking lots in midtown, I guess I merged it with downtown. Does east of main have more available land? I need to get out more There's never been that much surface parking in Midtown. The vacant lots tend to be grassy with a few trees. Downtown is a different story, since any lot that's empty is set up for parking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucleareaction Posted August 12, 2014 Share Posted August 12, 2014 I believe so. That's why I asked. Doesn't seem this was answered... The City owns the land, used to be the old Permit office. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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