ricco67 Posted July 16, 2008 Share Posted July 16, 2008 From what I have been hearing, the old "Late Nite Pie" (502 Elgin) location was purchased by the same people that own "Chrome" nightclub over at Shepherd @ Kipling and it's going to be 2 or 3 floors in height! While nothing has been set in stone, the only thing I can think of is what a horrible location that would be. The Lot is small, NO parking (Valet options would probably be 24hr garage and the Restaurant in the back), plus the high speed exits from 59 on Brazos. You'd have to have wreckers posted there on weekends. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sevfiv Posted July 16, 2008 Share Posted July 16, 2008 Ugh - Crome. Cutsie spelling and all, I thought it wasn't doing so well?Too bad if they smash up 502 Elgin - used to be Humble service station #124 in the 1920s/30sSo from where have you been hearing this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedScare Posted July 16, 2008 Share Posted July 16, 2008 With oil above $130 a barrel, I guess gold digging is back in style in Houston. Oh, wait. Maybe it never went out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pumapayam Posted July 16, 2008 Share Posted July 16, 2008 (edited) Ugh - Crome. Cutsie spelling and all, I thought it wasn't doing so well?Too bad if they smash up 502 Elgin - used to be Humble service station #124 in the 1920s/30sSo from where have you been hearing this?I have been there, nothing special, but yes, the spelling is a pain.The first time I went, I tried to located it, and could not find it because I was spelling it Chrome, instead of Crome.The location was a bar before it was a pizza joint, an icehouse. Parking will be a mess.It should be converted back into a gas station or corner store. Edited July 16, 2008 by Pumapayam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricco67 Posted July 16, 2008 Author Share Posted July 16, 2008 Ugh - Crome. Cutsie spelling and all, I thought it wasn't doing so well?Too bad if they smash up 502 Elgin - used to be Humble service station #124 in the 1920s/30sSo from where have you been hearing this?I've been hearing it from some employees from LNP, but I did some additional verification by some people I know. I've been sitting on it for about 2 weeks before I can get some fact checking. Hopefully they'll just make a draft house or something, knock down the fence and share the parking with the center next door. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbigtex56 Posted July 16, 2008 Share Posted July 16, 2008 Ugh - Crome. Cutsie spelling and all, I thought it wasn't doing so well?Too bad if they smash up 502 Elgin - used to be Humble service station #124 in the 1920s/30s So from where have you been hearing this? I have been there, nothing special, but yes, the spelling is a pain.The first time I went, I tried to located it, and could not find it because I was spelling it Chrome, instead of Crome. The location was a bar before it was a pizza joint, an icehouse. Parking will be a mess. It should be converted back into a gas station or corner store. Title has been corrected to reflect 'cutsie' spelling. Will they still be pandering to the biker wanna-be crowd? That might help reduce the parking squeeze. Otherwise, that parking lot to the east or valet seem to be the only viable options. And I agree about the tow trucks on weekends comment. That downhill exit from Spur 527 onto Elgin is already a perfect setup for head-on collisions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.J. Posted September 2, 2008 Share Posted September 2, 2008 Has Crome on Shepherd closed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricco67 Posted September 2, 2008 Author Share Posted September 2, 2008 Good question. I was driving by the place a few weeks ago and I didn't see any signs of life. Like most "trendy" bars, this one died a most deserved death. I have been seeing SOME work being done in the old LNP location, but I can't tell what it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.J. Posted September 2, 2008 Share Posted September 2, 2008 I've thought it looked quiet/dark, too. Sorry, what's LNP? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OkieEric Posted September 2, 2008 Share Posted September 2, 2008 Good question. I was driving by the place a few weeks ago and I didn't see any signs of life. Like most "trendy" bars, this one died a most deserved death. I have been seeing SOME work being done in the old LNP location, but I can't tell what it is.A couple of months ago I heard that someone had bought it and was doing renovations...well, "heard" as in overheard the new owner telling a friend of mine. Not sure when it will re-open, but I see cars and some activity there now and then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rsb320 Posted September 2, 2008 Share Posted September 2, 2008 It looks like LNP has moved over to Tuam. The building next door (on Tuam) is under some sort of renovation. It used to be an after-hours bar. Could this be the new Crome? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwilson Posted September 2, 2008 Share Posted September 2, 2008 The only thing I have to say on the subject is THANK GOD! Late Night Pie sucked. I got so sick of hearing people talk about how awesome the pizza was. It was horrible at best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.J. Posted September 2, 2008 Share Posted September 2, 2008 It would be cool if Crome moved everything out of the old Shepherd location. Weird place for a club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OkieEric Posted September 2, 2008 Share Posted September 2, 2008 It would be cool if Crome moved everything out of the old Shepherd location. Weird place for a club.I thought it was pretty odd at first, too...but really, my only problem was the parking and lack of alternatives. If you got sick of Crome, the only other option was Vintage. Is Vintage still open? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jc281 Posted September 2, 2008 Share Posted September 2, 2008 whats the status? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roadrunner Posted September 3, 2008 Share Posted September 3, 2008 I thought it was pretty odd at first, too...but really, my only problem was the parking and lack of alternatives. If you got sick of Crome, the only other option was Vintage. Is Vintage still open?Vintage is still open and is packed every weekend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OkieEric Posted September 3, 2008 Share Posted September 3, 2008 Vintage is still open and is packed every weekend.That's good to hear...In other news, I drove by the old LNP location and there was a sign up that said something like "Slate Bar and Grill". "Slate" might not be correct, but it was definitely not for a club Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roadrunner Posted September 3, 2008 Share Posted September 3, 2008 That's good to hear...In other news, I drove by the old LNP location and there was a sign up that said something like "Slate Bar and Grill". "Slate" might not be correct, but it was definitely not for a clubI was kind of getting the feeling that Upper Kirby may be the new club destination in 5 years. That area already has a solid base of bars between the Shepherd/Richmond strip center, Vintage, Kenneally's, and Red Lion. Once West Ave is finished, not only will the bars and nightlife in that development bring more people in, but also probably attract some renovations to some of the older small buildings along Shepherd and Kirby.Of course, the land value will also most likely skyrocket once all of this happens, so who knows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OkieEric Posted September 3, 2008 Share Posted September 3, 2008 I was kind of getting the feeling that Upper Kirby may be the new club destination in 5 years. That area already has a solid base of bars between the Shepherd/Richmond strip center, Vintage, Kenneally's, and Red Lion. Once West Ave is finished, not only will the bars and nightlife in that development bring more people in, but also probably attract some renovations to some of the older small buildings along Shepherd and Kirby.Of course, the land value will also most likely skyrocket once all of this happens, so who knows.Yeah, who knows? Shepherd Plaza apparently used to be the trendy area back in the late 90's, but you'd never know looking at it today... You've also got rail coming down Richmond in the next few years as well, and ever increasing density in the form of more and more apartments. I don't know a lot about what is behind the moves the club scene tends to make, but lately it tends to be in more transitional areas...like Midtown and Washington Ave. One could argue that Upper Kirby, in large part, doesn't quite fit the mold - maybe something more like the East End? I'm also not sure an infusion of new clubs really drives up land prices, but I wouldn't mind some renovations in some of the rougher buildings; however, the area seems to be doing pretty well already without necessarily being a club destination Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diggity Posted September 3, 2008 Share Posted September 3, 2008 he only thing I have to say on the subject is THANK GOD! Late Night Pie sucked. I got so sick of hearing people talk about how awesome the pizza was. It was horrible at best. you are aware that they just moved down the street...to a bigger location? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crunchtastic Posted September 3, 2008 Share Posted September 3, 2008 One could argue that Upper Kirby, in large part, doesn't quite fit the mold - maybe something more like the East End? I'm also not sure an infusion of new clubs really drives up land prices, but I wouldn't mind some renovations in some of the rougher buildings; however, the area seems to be doing pretty well already without necessarily being a club destinationThe Near East End, or East Downtown (as long as it's not called EaDO or something!) would make sense. There are already 2 live music venues (Meridian and Warehouse) Lucky's is doing well. I bet the old Axiom (ah...memories) on McKinney is in workable shape. I like the idea of clubs in warehouse districts because you can designate plenty of parking. I also think it would be cool to integrate more intimate pubs with smaller galleries and performance spaces. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houstonian05 Posted September 4, 2008 Share Posted September 4, 2008 That's good to hear...In other news, I drove by the old LNP location and there was a sign up that said something like "Slate Bar and Grill". "Slate" might not be correct, but it was definitely not for a clubIts going to be called Saint Dane's....no word on if its just a bar or will also sell food. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OkieEric Posted September 4, 2008 Share Posted September 4, 2008 Its going to be called Saint Dane's....no word on if its just a bar or will also sell food. lol, that's right...at least I had the "S" right It says bar and grill under the name, so I would assume they would sell food as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diggity Posted September 4, 2008 Share Posted September 4, 2008 shouldn't this topic be on the Midtown board? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbigtex56 Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 shouldn't this topic be on the Midtown board?I agree. Elgin is Midtown, Westheimer is Montrose - topic moved, retitled.From what I have been hearing, the old "Late Nite Pie" (502 Elgin) location was purchased by the same people that own "Chrome" nightclub over at Shepherd @ Kipling and it's going to be 2 or 3 floors in height!Has any connection to Crome been confirmed?Review in Houston Press here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swtsig Posted October 29, 2008 Share Posted October 29, 2008 I agree. Elgin is Midtown, Westheimer is Montrose - topic moved, retitled.Has any connection to Crome been confirmed?Review in Houston Press herei've driven by it several times and must say that it definitely looks like my kinda place... can't wait to swing by. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OkieEric Posted November 23, 2008 Share Posted November 23, 2008 (edited) A couple of months ago I heard that someone had bought it and was doing renovations...well, "heard" as in overheard the new owner telling a friend of mine. Not sure when it will re-open, but I see cars and some activity there now and then Not sure if this is the appropriate thread, but I'm sure everyone has been anxiously awaiting news on what was formerly known as Crome. Judging by this recent permit, "Pravada" is on the horizon: Link Edited November 23, 2008 by OkieEric Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fernz Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 From Bisnow: ARA's Clark Dalton, David Marshall, Tim Dosch, and Tom Dosch (who graciously got up early to meet us at Le Peep) tell us they've handled ninenew apartment development deals in Midtown and the immediate area in the last 15 months. Two of the big ones are Morgan's building on Smith and a redevelopment site on Main. The latter—right on the rail line a few blocks south of the Superblock—is proposed to be the first high-rise in the submarket. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naviguessor Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 I wonder if this would be the lot JUST south of the SuperBlock, just north of the big HCC Building. This would make a good focal point from the park....kind of what I was hoping for from the apartments On the SuperBlock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montrose1100 Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 A tower even at 20 stories would really stand out in a good way. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urbannizer Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 A second high-rise may be on the way as well: The land team is bringing two more sites to market there now—one at West Dallas and 45 and the other cattycorner to the Superblock (it might go high-rise as well). 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lithiumaneurysm Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 It'd be crazy if both of these towers came to fruition. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZKB9 Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 Midtown is on fire! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triton Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 Who owns the land between Francis and Stuart on Main next to MATCH? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lockmat Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 Midtown is on fire! Don't underestimate the ability of Houston developers to downsize projects hehe 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naviguessor Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 ^^ Or Upsize them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lockmat Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 ^^ Or Upsize them. like Hines' 609 and...? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triton Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 like Hines' 609 and...?Yea, the track record of this city up sizing projects hasn't been that great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naviguessor Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 Nailed it! ;-)But, it's not a "houston developers" pattern. I've lived/followed other cities with truly dissaponting developer downsizing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urbannizer Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 like Hines' 609 and...?2929 Weslayan, Astoria, BHP Billiton Tower, Élan Heights, Market Square Tower, Camden Conte, Regent SquareI think there has been more upsizing as of late than downsizing. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillip_white Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 This is awesome news! Cookie cutter townhouses and mid-rises with GFR are great for infill, but this is the kind of development that we need for long-term growth. I'm excited to hear about the details when they become available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloud713 Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 Sweeet! About time midtown.. About time... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UtterlyUrban Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 I am torn a bit......Good news, true. But, I just seem to feel that we need LOTS of folks living in Downtown and Midtown and we need a variety of options for folks to chose from. I just seem to think that midtown should "feel" mid-rise (or shorter) and downtown should "feel" high-rise. Townhomes won't be built in downtown. They should be built in mid-town. Highrises will be built in downtown. They shouldn't be built in midtown.Of course, none of that has any logic to it, it's just they way I feel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lockmat Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 I am torn a bit......Good news, true. But, I just seem to feel that we need LOTS of folks living in Downtown and Midtown and we need a variety of options for folks to chose from. I just seem to think that midtown should "feel" mid-rise (or shorter) and downtown should "feel" high-rise.Townhomes won't be built in downtown. They should be built in mid-town.Highrises will be built in downtown. They shouldn't be built in midtown.Of course, none of that has any logic to it, it's just they way I feel. I'm guessing the term highrise is used loosely in this context. I'm thinking no more than 10-12 stories, although it'd be cool if it was more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luminare Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 Rule No. 32: Pics or it never happened 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lockmat Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 (edited) From Bisnow: ARA's Clark Dalton, David Marshall, Tim Dosch, and Tom Dosch (who graciously got up early to meet us at Le Peep) tell us they've handled ninenew apartment development deals in Midtown and the immediate area in the last 15 months. Two of the big ones are Morgan's building on Smith and a redevelopment site on Main. The latter—right on the rail line a few blocks south of the Superblock—is proposed to be the first high-rise in the submarket. Could this be the site? Also, do we know about all those "future development" projects already? http://arausa.listinglab.com//MidtownRedevelopmentSite/index.cfm?#&panel1-1 Edited July 29, 2014 by lockmat 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triton Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 Who owns the land between Francis and Stuart on Main next to MATCH? I believe so. That's why I asked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moore713 Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 I have always felt main st leads itself to towers and offices, as well as high rises.. Once you get of main , then you can scale down 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lockmat Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 I have always felt main st leads itself to towers and offices, as well as high rises.. Once you get of main , then you can scale down Line Main w/ "short" high rises and scale down eastward and westward, I like it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luminare Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 Line Main w/ "short" high rises and scale down eastward and westward, I like it. This implies that we have city planners who understand building scale, city design, and general composition and organization. You are asking a lot here lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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