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The 60,000 SF warehouse in Houston's Second Ward at 2339 Commerce may be redeveloped into a mixed-use development, retail or residential.

 




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2339 Commerce St is listed as an upcoming project on Ancorian's website:

http://www.ancorian.com/project/2339-commerce/



2339 Commerce is a 60,000 SF redevelopment project located in Houston’s rapidly gentrifying east downtown neighborhood. 2339 sits in the shadows of downtown Houston and provides an eclectic value option for downtown office users.

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A proposed draft for the EaDo development from Ancorian.

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Originally posted by Urbannizer, August 31,  2016 in the thread for 2339 Commerce | 2339 Commerce St | Second Ward | Redevelopment.




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Originally posted by UtterlyUrban, September 8,  2016 in the thread for 2339 Commerce | 2339 Commerce St | Second Ward | Redevelopment.



Nice to see more thoughtful development.  I hope it leases well and quickly.

 

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Originally posted by Crockpotandgravel, December 13,  2016 in the thread for 2339 Commerce | 2339 Commerce St | Second Ward | Redevelopment.




About the Commerce Street project:


" This large 70,000 square foot existing warehouse is currently being restructured into office and restaurant space for the development group, Ancorian in the growing East Downtown area of Houston. "

Another rendering of Commerce Street at 2339 Commerce from Mak Studio's website:


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Oh man, I forgot that the original look was going to be colorful. Oh well. I do like the wood-paneled side.

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Originally posted by Crockpotandgravel, December 15,  2016 in the thread for 2339 Commerce | 2339 Commerce St | Second Ward | Redevelopment.




Another rendering of Commerce Market at 2339 Commerce Street. It's the same as Urb's (here) but without people. This was taken from Ancorian's website.


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Originally posted by Crockpotandgravel, May 26,  2017 in the thread for 2339 Commerce | 2339 Commerce St | Second Ward | Redevelopment.




Updated site map for 2339 Commerce Street.

Two tenants added:

Interfield - a leading consulting engineering company in Houston, specializing in engineering and architectural design services.

Inbox Printing - Houston’s premier full-service printing  company. With a full staff of industry veterans and the latest in digital printing equipment on site.




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Originally posted by j_cuevas713, June 1,  2017 in the thread for 2339 Commerce | 2339 Commerce St | Second Ward | Redevelopment.



Niiice!
 

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Originally posted by Urbannizer, September 22,  2017 in the thread for 2339 Commerce | 2339 Commerce St | Second Ward | Redevelopment.



Updated listing for 2339 Commerce St. Looks like they now plan to take out a portion of the warehouse for more parking.



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Originally posted by ryrohtx, December 2,  2017 in the thread for 2339 Commerce | 2339 Commerce St | Second Ward | Redevelopment.



Demo has started on this project. I will take some pics this afternoon. 
 

 

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Originally posted by crockpotandgravel, December 7,  2017 in the thread for 2339 Commerce | 2339 Commerce St | Second Ward | Redevelopment.




The Ancorian re-adaptive development at 2339 Commerce at Canal has a new name: The Block.

In addition to creative offices, other tenants desired includes restaurants, a distillery, or a brewery.



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Unable to archive the Loopnet page for this development (useful because Loopnet has implemented new measures where the site either deletes listings or remove all images and pdf files once a listing has been leased or sold), but here's a screenshot of the page.


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Originally posted by thedistrict84, April 26,  2018 in the thread for 2339 Commerce | 2339 Commerce St | Second Ward | Redevelopment.




Does anybody know the latest on this project? There hasn’t been any activity on site for months. 


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Originally posted by crockpotandgravel, November 16,  2018 in the thread for 2339 Commerce | 2339 Commerce St | Second Ward | Redevelopment.



 

On 4/26/2018 at 10:07 AM, thedistrict84 said:

Does anybody know the latest on this project? There hasn’t been any activity on site for months. 





Update on The Block at 2339 Commerce from Houston Business Journal this week:


 

Houston-based Ancorian, a real estate development company, recently broke ground on a 44,000-square-foot warehouse reuse project at 2339 Canal St. in east downtown, Michael Sperandio, a founding partner at Ancorian, told the Houston Business Journal. When the project delivers near the end of 2019, it'll likely contain coworking space and one or two retail or restaurant concepts, Sperandio said.

"It’s east downtown proper, it’s not EaDo, but we’ve taken this old metal building and started working on bringing it back to life," Sperandio said.

The project, dubbed The Block, has been underway for around two years since Ancorian acquired a 70,000-square-foot industrial warehouse on 2.5 acres at Canal Street and Colby Street, Sperandio said. Ancorian demolished part of the warehouse, which made room for around 200 parking spots at the development. Houston-based Method Architecture is the architect and Houston-based Course Construction is the general contractor.

The project has garnered attention from major coworking companies, including New York-based WeWork, Sperandio said.

"They came and toured it," Sperandio said of WeWork. "I don’t know if we’re the right fit for them — we’re not a typical office space like they've taken in the past — but they’re aware of our property. … I know they want to be in east downtown."

Some coworking companies have expressed interest in leasing the entire property, Sperandio said. The project's also received interest from makerspace companies, or coworking space that's geared toward craftspeople and artisans in need of studio space.



https://www.bizjournals.com/houston/news/2018/11/13/exclusive-houstons-east-village-developer-breaks.html


 

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Originally posted by crockpotandgravel, November 16,  2018 in the thread for 2339 Commerce | 2339 Commerce St | Second Ward | Redevelopment.



Construction progress photos of The Block at 2339 Commerce from Houston Business Journal



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Originally posted by cspwal, November 16,  2018 in the thread for 2339 Commerce | 2339 Commerce St | Second Ward | Redevelopment.

 

  On 11/16/2018 at 7:41 AM, CrockpotandGravel said:

"It’s east downtown proper, it’s not EaDo, but we’ve taken this old metal building and started working on bringing it back to life," Sperandio said.


 

What does this quote mean?  EaDo is short for East Downtown, and this block looks pretty far away from "downtown" regardless

 

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Originally posted by august948, November 19,  2018 in the thread for 2339 Commerce | 2339 Commerce St | Second Ward | Redevelopment.




I think they are trying to say it's not in the official EaDo boundries.  Technically, it's in the second ward but I'd bet people will just say EaDo anyway.
 

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Originally posted by thedistrict84, November 19,  2018 in the thread for 2339 Commerce | 2339 Commerce St | Second Ward | Redevelopment.


 

On 11/16/2018 at 9:26 AM, august948 said:

I think they are trying to say it's not in the official EaDo boundries.  Technically, it's in the second ward but I'd bet people will just say EaDo anyway.

 


I think the Second Ward name is still sticking for the most part, but there is definitely some name-creep occurring in the area, thanks mostly to town home developers.

 

The worst part about living in Second Ward is having to correct all of the people that call it EaDo. The BNSF rail line provides a clear boundary, so I’m not sure what’s so confusing about it. Oh well.


 

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Originally posted by Tone2002, November 20,  2018 in the thread for 2339 Commerce | 2339 Commerce St | Second Ward | Redevelopment.




Do people really still use the ward designations?? Outside of Fifth Ward/Third Ward rarely are the other areas referred to as such.
 

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Originally posted by Ross, November 20,  2018 in the thread for 2339 Commerce | 2339 Commerce St | Second Ward | Redevelopment.


 

On 11/20/2018 at 12:04 AM, Tone2002 said:

Do people really still use the ward designations?? Outside of Fifth Ward/Third Ward rarely are the other areas referred to as such.



Yes. Although, 2nd Ward is the least heard.


 

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Originally posted by Naviguessor, November 20,  2018 in the thread for 2339 Commerce | 2339 Commerce St | Second Ward | Redevelopment.



 

^^ Unless you live in or near there.  Then you hear it all of the time. 

Don't forget Old Sixth Ward or Forth Ward/Freedman's Town, either.  They’re not going away.  First Ward, Art District is pretty proud too. 

 

So, other than First, Second, Third, Fourth, Fifth and Sixth Wards, nobody really refers to the wards as wards. 


 

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Originally posted by thedistrict84, November 21,  2018 in the thread for 2339 Commerce | 2339 Commerce St | Second Ward | Redevelopment.


 

  On 11/20/2018 at 11:01 AM, Naviguessor said:

So, other than First, Second, Third, Fourth, Fifth and Sixth Wards, nobody really refers to the wards as wards. 


 

😀

 

As long as Google maps still labels the area Second Ward, I don’t think the designation will go anywhere. If anything, it might help broaden use of the name.


 

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Originally posted by Tone2002, November 23,  2018 in the thread for 2339 Commerce | 2339 Commerce St | Second Ward | Redevelopment.


 

  On 11/20/2018 at 11:01 AM, Naviguessor said:

^^ Unless you live in or near there.  Then you hear it all of the time. 

Don't forget Old Sixth Ward or Forth Ward/Freedman's Town, either.  They’re not going away.  First Ward, Art District is pretty proud too. 

 

So, other than First, Second, Third, Fourth, Fifth and Sixth Wards, nobody really refers to the wards as wards. 



 

And I have a bridge to sell you too. I live in the East End and the use of Second Ward is nonexistant. Let them tell you there is no such thing as EaDo, but those are lies regarding the use of 1st/2nd/4th/6th wards. I find it funny you throwing in “Freedman’s Town” when that area clearly isn’t referred to that. 


 

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Originally posted by intencity77, November 23,  2018 in the thread for 2339 Commerce | 2339 Commerce St | Second Ward | Redevelopment.



For me that’s false. I’ve lived here ten years and have heard both Second Ward and East End used interchangeably when describing the area. Only in the last 3-4 years has the EaDo word spilled over the railroad tracks and into the western portions of the East End/Second Ward.
 

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Originally posted by thedistrict84, November 26,  2018 in the thread for 2339 Commerce | 2339 Commerce St | Second Ward | Redevelopment.


 

  On 11/23/2018 at 10:09 AM, intencity77 said:

For me that’s false. I’ve lived here ten years and have heard both Second Ward and East End used interchangeably when describing the area. Only in the last 3-4 years has the EaDo word spilled over the railroad tracks and into the western portions of the East End/Second Ward.

 


I’ve lived in the area for about four years myself, and I would agree with this for the most part. The one caveat I will add is that (I think) the recognized boundary of the Second Ward ends at Lockwood, whereas the East End refers to the area well beyond that. So, there is some overlap but the names aren’t necessarily interchangeable.

 

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Originally posted by intencity77, November 26,  2018 in the thread for 2339 Commerce | 2339 Commerce St | Second Ward | Redevelopment.

 

  On 11/26/2018 at 10:09 AM, thedistrict84 said:

 

I’ve lived in the area for about four years myself, and I would agree with this for the most part. The one caveat I will add is that (I think) the recognized boundary of the Second Ward ends at Lockwood, whereas the East End refers to the area well beyond that. So, there is some overlap but the names aren’t necessarily interchangeable.

 


The “Greater East End” is an umbrella term that overlays the area of Second Ward and the neighborhoods of Pecan Park, Magnolia Park, Lawndale/Wayside, Eastwood and Central Park. The East End Management District office is actually located at 3211 Harrisburg near Sampson, well outside and west of the “Lockwood boundary”. But I do agree that you are correct on the Second Ward neighborhood boundary ending at Lockwood. 


 

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Originally posted by downtownian, November 26,  2018 in the thread for 2339 Commerce | 2339 Commerce St | Second Ward | Redevelopment.


 

  On 11/26/2018 at 10:23 AM, intencity77 said:

 

The “Greater East End” is an umbrella term that overlays the area of Second Ward and the neighborhoods of Pecan Park, Magnolia Park, Lawndale/Wayside, Eastwood and Central Park. The East End Management District office is actually located at 3211 Harrisburg near Sampson, well outside and west of the “Lockwood boundary”. But I do agree that you are correct on the Second Ward neighborhood boundary ending at Lockwood. 

 



The Second Ward goes past Lockwood to Terminal

 


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Originally posted by intencity77, November 26,  2018 in the thread for 2339 Commerce | 2339 Commerce St | Second Ward | Redevelopment.

 

On 11/26/2018 at 1:30 PM, downtownian said:

 

The Second Ward goes past Lockwood to Terminal

 

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Of course, when technically speaking, but in modern times I’ve rarely heard the neighborhood north of Harrisburg and east of Lockwood referred to as Second Ward. That area usually goes by Central Park. It’s no wonder the EaDo name is creeping in all over the East End, everyone seems to have a different name for the same neighborhood. Lol. 



 

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Originally posted by thedistrict84, November 26,  2018 in the thread for 2339 Commerce | 2339 Commerce St | Second Ward | Redevelopment.


 

On 11/26/2018 at 10:23 AM, intencity77 said:

The “Greater East End” is an umbrella term that overlays the area of Second Ward and the neighborhoods of Pecan Park, Magnolia Park, Lawndale/Wayside, Eastwood and Central Park. The East End Management District office is actually located at 3211 Harrisburg near Sampson, well outside and west of the “Lockwood boundary”. But I do agree that you are correct on the Second Ward neighborhood boundary ending at Lockwood. 

 



I completely agree with you. I didn’t mean that the two areas are delineated by Lockwood. I meant that the East End includes Second Ward but extends well beyond that to include the other neighborhoods and areas you mentioned—hence the “overlap” comment. 

 

I probably could have been a bit clearer with my statement. My apologies.


 

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Originally posted by HoustonMidtown, March 11,  2019 in the thread for 2339 Commerce | 2339 Commerce St | Second Ward | Redevelopment.


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Originally posted by I'm Not a Robot, May 2,  2019 in the thread for 2339 Commerce | 2339 Commerce St | Second Ward | Redevelopment.




it's been de-listed from Loopnet.
 

https://www.loopnet.com/Listing/2339-Commerce-St-Houston-TX/7148008/

 




From Houston Business Journal:

 

 ...WeWork also has pending leases in the region that will add an additional 1,000 desks by the end of 2019.
 

https://www.bizjournals.com/houston/news/2019/05/02/wework-confirms-the-woodlands-location.html

 

 

 

I'm going out on a limb and guessing a coworking space signed a portion of the lease. Hopefully not the whole facility because I was really hoping to see a restaurant or bar in here:


 

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Originally posted by crockpotandgravel, June 17,  2019 in the thread for 2339 Commerce | 2339 Commerce St | Second Ward | Redevelopment.



 

Dallas cidery Bishop Cider Co. is opening a cider bar and arcade in Houston.


Edit: It's not going in the R.B. Everett Building at 3118 Harrisburg Boulevard in the East End (that's too small). It will open at The Block at 2339 Commerce. Thanks to @EaDolivin for connecting the rendering on the Cidercade Houston website to the rendering of The Block by Ancorian. 



Their announcement last week gave a location ballpark of EaDo ( East Downtown ), located down the street from both nearby stadiums and will be 18,000 SF.




Here is the Facebook announcement from Bishop Cidercade on Saturday:

The rumors are true: Cidercade Houston

Get ready Houston: a new Cidercade location is coming your way!
 

Bishop Cidercade Houston will proudly offer 18,000* sq ft of arcade and bar fun, and 30 ciders + wines on draft. Located right down the street from BBVA Compass Stadium and Minute Maid Park in the EaDo District.
 

*As a point of reference, the Dallas Cidercade is 6,500sf.
 

Location will be opening later this year.


To get updates on the progress, go to:

http://cidercadehouston.com


Source: https://www.facebook.com/cidercade/photos/a.1420998174585594/2758480010837397


 

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Originally posted by EaDolivin, June 17,  2019 in the thread for 2339 Commerce | 2339 Commerce St | Second Ward | Redevelopment.



 

Judging from the website, the photo of the warehouse matches the 2339 Commerce St location, which is a development known as 'The Block'.  The details are in a previous thread linked below.

 

I'm personally super excited about this as I live in the area.  EaDo just keeps getting better and better!


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Originally posted by EaDolivin, June 17,  2019 in the thread for 2339 Commerce | 2339 Commerce St | Second Ward | Redevelopment.



 

Looks like Bishop Cidercade will be leasing part of the 'The Block' warehouse (18,000 sq ft)!

(the pic in the first link looks exactly like it)

https://www.cidercade.com/houston

 

http://cidercadehouston.com



https://www.facebook.com/cidercade/photos/a.1420998174585594/2758480010837397

 

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Originally posted by I'm Not a Robot, June 17,  2019 in the thread for 2339 Commerce | 2339 Commerce St | Second Ward | Redevelopment.


 

On 6/17/2019 at 1:06 PM, EaDolivin said:

Looks like Bishop Cidercade will be leasing part of the 'The Block' warehouse (18,000 sq ft)!

(the pic in the first link looks exactly like it)

https://www.cidercade.com/houston

 

http://cidercadehouston.com


https://www.facebook.com/cidercade/photos/a.1420998174585594/2758480010837397



 

Great find. this is awesome news. 



 

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Originally posted by thedistrict84, June 17,  2019 in the thread for 2339 Commerce | 2339 Commerce St | Second Ward | Redevelopment.


 

On 6/17/2019 at 12:45 PM, EaDolivin said:

Judging from the website, the photo of the warehouse matches the 2339 Commerce St location, which is a development known as 'The Block'.  The details are in a previous thread linked below.

 

I'm personally super excited about this as I live in the area.  EaDo just keeps getting better and better!

 


 

Which photo on the website are you referring to? I don’t see anything on the website or FB page that gives any indication of which building it is or what it looks like. I assume the shots they are using are from their Dallas location, which is the only one that’s open.


 

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Originally posted by I'm Not a Robot, June 17,  2019 in the thread for 2339 Commerce | 2339 Commerce St | Second Ward | Redevelopment.

 

 

On 6/17/2019 at 2:34 PM, thedistrict84 said:

 

Which photo on the website are you referring to? I don’t see anything on the website or FB page that gives any indication of which building it is or what it looks like. I assume the shots they are using are from their Dallas location, which is the only one that’s open.


 


https://www.cidercade.com/houston

 

EaDolivin posted that in the 2339 Harrisburg thread. 




 

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Originally posted by gene, June 19,  2019 in the thread for 2339 Commerce | 2339 Commerce St | Second Ward | Redevelopment.




always cool to see HAIF mentioned and given credit! 




From Eater Houston:
 

One of Dallas’ favorite locations for house-made cider and arcade games, Bishop Cidercade, will expand into Houston in the coming months.
 

Eater Austin reports that the Dallas original has plans to open locations in both Austin and Houston by the end of the year. The Space City outpost will be situated in EaDo “right down the street from BBVA Compass Stadium and Minute Maid Park,” according to an announcement posted to the company’s Facebook page. A rendering sniffed out by posters on architecture forum HAIF speculates that it will be located at 2339 Commerce Street, at the Block mixed-use development.
 

The Houston outpost will be three times larger than the Dallas location with 18,000 square feet of space housing arcade games and a bar. As far as drinks are concerned, Bishop Cidercade will serve up brews by its namesake brand Bishop Cider, which will amount to 30 ciders and wines on draft with clever names like Beach Please, Cran’t Touch This, Darkcide, and the always delicious and addictive Crackberry, an aptly named cranberry and blackberry cider.


 

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Originally posted by crockpotandgravel, June 19,  2019 in the thread for 2339 Commerce | 2339 Commerce St | Second Ward | Redevelopment.



 


While scrolling through Facebook comments on the post announcing Bishop Cidercade coming to Houston, Joel Malone, co-owner of Bishop Cider Co. & Bishop Cidercade Houston wrote this today:


Due to the lack of zoning in Houston, it is very likely that our Houston location will open 1-2 months before Austin. Also, we aren’t duplicated the Dallas one into the other cities. All three will be drastically different and catered to the City. They won’t resemble the Dallas location at all.

https://www.facebook.com/cidercade/posts/2758485927503472?comment_id=2766660366686028&reply_comment_id=2768053409880057


 

 

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This was in the previous thread for 2339 Commerce | 2339 Commerce St | Second Ward | Redevelopment. It's being reposted / reupped since the original thread and other content from me were removed. 



 

Originally posted by crockpotandgravel, June 19,  2019 in the thread for 2339 Commerce | 2339 Commerce St | Second Ward | Redevelopment.

 

On 6/17/2019 at 12:45 PM, EaDolivin said:

I'm personally super excited about this as I live in the area.  EaDo just keeps getting better and better!

 



EaDo is becoming vibrant again with each new development rising up. It's as vibrant as the old Chinatown of the 70's and 80's. I hope the 45 expansion dies a horrible death. With East Downtown as the new it spot, the expansion will kill growth, in my humble opinion.

If you are stoked over Cidercade, take a peek into the East Village thread in the Going Up forum. There's another cool arcade and bar  opening there in EaDo.

https://www.houstonarchitecture.com/haif/topic/32934-east-village-mixed-use-development-at-1201-st-emanuel/?do=findComment&comment=593703


 

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This was in the previous thread for 2339 Commerce | 2339 Commerce St | Second Ward | Redevelopment. It's being reposted / reupped since the original thread and other content from me were removed. 



 

Originally posted by Avossos June 19,  2019 in the thread for 2339 Commerce | 2339 Commerce St | Second Ward | Redevelopment.


 

  On 6/19/2019 at 10:34 AM, CrockpotandGravel said:


EaDo is becoming vibrant again with each new development rising up. It's as vibrant as the old Chinatown of the 70's and 80's. I hope the 45 expansion dies a horrible death. With East Downtown as the new it spot, the expansion will kill growth, in my humble opinion.
 

 


putting the freeway underground will be good for the long term for everyone.

 

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This was in the previous thread for 2339 Commerce | 2339 Commerce St | Second Ward | Redevelopment. It's being reposted / reupped since the original thread and other content from me were removed. 



 

Originally posted by thedistrict84, June 19,  2019 in the thread for 2339 Commerce | 2339 Commerce St | Second Ward | Redevelopment.


 

On 6/19/2019 at 10:34 AM, CrockpotandGravel said:

I hope the 45 expansion dies a horrible death. With East Downtown as the new it spot, the expansion will kill growth, in my humble opinion.


 


I’m with you on this. The 45 reroute project will take out something like 10%-12% of the total land that makes up EaDo, including many lots prime for development near East Village and 8th Wonder.

 

Ten years of construction will also have a detrimental effect on the businesses that are already open, including EaDo-adjacent businesses like the Bishop Cidercade (which is technically in Second Ward, as EaDo ends at the BNSF tracks). I don’t see how some—if not most—of them will survive.


 

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This was in the previous thread for 2339 Commerce | 2339 Commerce St | Second Ward | Redevelopment. It's being reposted / reupped since the original thread and other content from me were removed. 



 

Originally posted by Houston19514, June 19,  2019 in the thread for 2339 Commerce | 2339 Commerce St | Second Ward | Redevelopment.

 

On 6/19/2019 at 3:48 PM, thedistrict84 said:

 

I’m with you on this. The 45 reroute project will take out something like 10%-12% of the total land that makes up EaDo, including many lots prime for development near East Village and 8th Wonder.

 

Ten years of construction will also have a detrimental effect on the businesses that are already open, including EaDo-adjacent businesses like the Bishop Cidercade (which is technically in Second Ward, as EaDo ends at the BNSF tracks). I don’t see how some—if not most—of them will survive.



 

Nonsense. 

 

I think you exaggerate the percentage of land it takes.  Does EADO have a shortage of developable lots?  The buried freeways and deck park will convert far more real estate into true prime real estate than any of the long-vacant lots taken by the project.

 

The construction should not really have that much of an impact on the neighborhood.  It's not as if any significant access points to the area will be eliminated and those that are temporarily blocked for construction will not be blocked for ten years or anything close to it.  This project is a total win for EADO. The investors and business who continue to pour money into and build businesses in the area have access to the internet too; if the future of the area was so bleak because of the impending project, they would probably be looking elsewhere.


 

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2 hours ago, CrockpotandGravel said:

This was in the previous thread for 2339 Commerce | 2339 Commerce St | Second Ward | Redevelopment. It's being reposted / reupped since the original thread and other content from me were removed. 



 

Originally posted by Houston19514, June 19,  2019 in the thread for 2339 Commerce | 2339 Commerce St | Second Ward | Redevelopment.

 

On 6/19/2019 at 3:48 PM, thedistrict84 said:

 

I’m with you on this. The 45 reroute project will take out something like 10%-12% of the total land that makes up EaDo, including many lots prime for development near East Village and 8th Wonder.

 

Ten years of construction will also have a detrimental effect on the businesses that are already open, including EaDo-adjacent businesses like the Bishop Cidercade (which is technically in Second Ward, as EaDo ends at the BNSF tracks). I don’t see how some—if not most—of them will survive.



 

Nonsense. 

 

I think you exaggerate the percentage of land it takes.  Does EADO have a shortage of developable lots?  The buried freeways and deck park will convert far more real estate into true prime real estate than any of the long-vacant lots taken by the project.

 

The construction should not really have that much of an impact on the neighborhood.  It's not as if any significant access points to the area will be eliminated and those that are temporarily blocked for construction will not be blocked for ten years or anything close to it.  This project is a total win for EADO. The investors and business who continue to pour money into and build businesses in the area have access to the internet too; if the future of the area was so bleak because of the impending project, they would probably be looking elsewhere.


 

 You cannot build on top of the freeway. TXDOT already said that this area will not have the necessary supports to build on. Also the park is FAR from a guarantee at this point. If they put the freeway underground, it will resemble the 59 underground freeway with bridges above it. No private group will support a park and without getting the funding secured now, there is no potential for a park in the future due the support structures needed. 

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I didn't see this posted in here, although the old posts being re-inserted are a bit confusing. 

 

https://www.bizjournals.com/houston/news/2019/10/28/dallas-coworking-company-heading-to-houstons-east.html

 

Dallas Co-working coming to the remaining 25,000 SQ FT along with their coffee shop Fiction Coffee, which looks pretty great. A lot of coffee coming to this area which is great for me because the more options the better.  https://www.instagram.com/fictioncoffeeshop/

 

Cidercade is also re-confirmed. 

 

not in the article: Cidercade is still awaiting permitting to begin their construction in the facility. I'm not sure on timelines but that is the hold up currently. Hopefully the Cidercade can still be completed by early next year (originally estimated for October)

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20 minutes ago, I'm Not a Robot said:

Dallas Co-working coming to the remaining 25,000 SQ FT along with their coffee shop Fiction Coffee, which looks pretty great. A lot of coffee coming to this area which is great for me because the more options the better.  https://www.instagram.com/fictioncoffeeshop/

 

One can never have too much coffee. Bring it on.

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This was in the previous thread for 2339 Commerce | 2339 Commerce St | Second Ward | Redevelopment. It's being reposted / reupped since the original thread and other content from me were removed. 



 

Originally posted by CaptainJilliams June 19,  2019 in the thread for 2339 Commerce | 2339 Commerce St | Second Ward | Redevelopment.


 

On 6/19/2019 at 3:48 PM, thedistrict84 said:

 

I’m with you on this. The 45 reroute project will take out something like 10%-12% of the total land that makes up EaDo, including many lots prime for development near East Village and 8th Wonder.

 

Ten years of construction will also have a detrimental effect on the businesses that are already open, including EaDo-adjacent businesses like the Bishop Cidercade (which is technically in Second Ward, as EaDo ends at the BNSF tracks). I don’t see how some—if not most—of them will survive.



 

I agree with @Houston19514 on this one, I think you are catastrophizing the impact of the new highway.

 

And if the highway cap park ever gets built, it will directly connect downtown with EaDo, creating greater walkability and opportunities for people/visitors to explore EaDo.  

 

 

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This was in the previous thread for 2339 Commerce | 2339 Commerce St | Second Ward | Redevelopment. It's being reposted / reupped since the original thread and other content from me were removed. 



 

Originally posted by thedistrict84, June 19,  2019 in the thread for 2339 Commerce | 2339 Commerce St | Second Ward | Redevelopment.


 

I was just going along with what C&G said regarding the project’s effect on EaDo and EaDo-adjacent businesses, in the context of this particular business opening at The Block.

 

Sorry if I led this thread astray.


 

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Originally posted by crockpotandgravel, June 21,  2019 in the thread for 2339 Commerce | 2339 Commerce St | Second Ward | Redevelopment.


 

  On 6/19/2019 at 11:36 AM, Avossos said:

putting the freeway underground will be good for the long term for everyone.



Agree to disagree.

 

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Originally posted by crockpotandgravel, June 21,  2019 in the thread for 2339 Commerce | 2339 Commerce St | Second Ward | Redevelopment.



 

On 6/19/2019 at 9:59 AM, CrockpotandGravel said:

While scrolling through Facebook comments on the post announcing Bishop Cidercade coming to Houston, Joel Malone, co-owner of Bishop Cider Co. & Bishop Cidercade Houston wrote this today:


Due to the lack of zoning in Houston, it is very likely that our Houston location will open 1-2 months before Austin. Also, we aren’t duplicated the Dallas one into the other cities. All three will be drastically different and catered to the City. They won’t resemble the Dallas location at all.

https://www.facebook.com/cidercade/posts/2758485927503472?comment_id=2766660366686028&reply_comment_id=2768053409880057







More on Bishop Cidercade's Houston location at 2339 Commerce.


The development won't be named The Block but 2339 Commerce, says Houston Business Journal.

Joel Malone, co-owner of Bishop Cider Co. & Bishop Cidercade Houston confirmed Cidercade is opening at 2339 Commerce. 





From Houston Business Journal:



It will be in Houston-based Ancorian's new mixed-use project called 2339 Commerce Street, Malone confirmed to the Houston Business Journal via email.
 

Last fall, Ancorian broke ground on the project, which is located along Colby Street between Commerce and Canal streets in the East End District. At the time, it was called The Block.

https://www.bizjournals.com/houston/news/2019/06/19/dallas-based-cidercade-expanding-to-houston-austin.html

 



 

 

And there is this:


It will also have a cider production facility on a much smaller scale than the Dallas location, offering small batches of Bishop beverages.

https://www.austin360.com/entertainmentlife/20190619/cidery-arcade-bar-comes-to-former-joes-crab-shack-site-in-austin



 

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