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11 minutes ago, Moore-to-it said:

chronicle  did a piece on why Houston  shouldn't  expect  to get back into  the super tall race, and basically  talked about the FAA and airport  business 

..I went ....Houston  should  focus on density anyway, let Austin  and Dallas get into pissing  contest  about  Tallest building in Texas... what does it matter if over the next  10 to 15 years we turn our core into a dense  walkable zone.

 

imagine a day were Downtown, Monroe, TMC, midtown( via ion district) all bleed into each other 

Not a bad idea, but FWIW Dallas is not even in the tallest building game and has t been for many many years.

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1 hour ago, Moore-to-it said:

chronicle  did a piece on why Houston  shouldn't  expect  to get back into  the super tall race, and basically  talked about the FAA and airport  business 

..I went ....Houston  should  focus on density anyway, let Austin  and Dallas get into pissing  contest  about  Tallest building in Texas... what does it matter if over the next  10 to 15 years we turn our core into a dense  walkable zone.

 

imagine a day were Downtown, Monroe, TMC, midtown( via ion district) all bleed into each other 

Absolutely. Dallas is prob the most behind of all Texas cities in terms of vibrant downtown.

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7 minutes ago, j_cuevas713 said:

Absolutely. Dallas is prob the most behind of all Texas cities in terms of vibrant downtown.

Ehhh, I'm as die-hard a Houston evangelist as you'll find, but I think we're still in last place in that regard. Disco Green is great, Market Square is great, the northern blocks of Main are...well, certainly vibrant.

But there are still sooo many acres of surface parking and so many lifeless parking garages here. I haven't spent much time in Dallas, so I may be wrong, but my sense from the Google Streetview machine is that it's at least more "filled out" than downtown Houston.

We're making great progress, but there's still a big mountain left to climb.

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13 minutes ago, 004n063 said:

Ehhh, I'm as die-hard a Houston evangelist as you'll find, but I think we're still in last place in that regard. Disco Green is great, Market Square is great, the northern blocks of Main are...well, certainly vibrant.

But there are still sooo many acres of surface parking and so many lifeless parking garages here. I haven't spent much time in Dallas, so I may be wrong, but my sense from the Google Streetview machine is that it's at least more "filled out" than downtown Houston.

We're making great progress, but there's still a big mountain left to climb.

filled out and vibrant or not always the same thing... for example  , I see nothing  like main street in Dallas, and with the renewed interest in turning  older buildings into residential, that could be a even bigger population  boom for the DT area .

 

DG green continues  to have a massive  effect on it area , it presence lead to the Hilton, The new Residential beside the Hilton,   Shanka new tower( and possibly  two more) ..plus another  high rise or mid rise is planed in that area if memory serves.. the effect have created  active clusters the a majority of the time..

That includes  other parts of DT like Hermann square, that that park has become a active cluster itself..of high-rises

 

now with the new park ..it only logical to assume we will see at some point  it to have a effect on it immediate  area.. 

and really  there still huge swash of land on the post..it only a matter of time before a high rise or a hotel comes a knocking  wanting  to build on that land ..

My honest prediction ( DT houston  vastly surpass DT Dallas in the next decade ( baring economic  chaos) 

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I'd definitely take density over height.  Downtown Houston continues to improve but still has a long ways to go ... especially the southern part (which has improved in some areas over the past several years).  My gym is the Downtown YMCA ... when working out you get a lovely view of an ugly, fenced in lot (Travis @ Pease) and from the parking garage you get an amazing view of Downtown's most iconic eyesore, the abandoned Days Inn. 

That all being said, Discovery West is looking so good rising above Disco Green .... that along with Parkside are such great additions to that part of Downtown. 

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6 minutes ago, HtownWxBoy said:

I'd definitely take density over height.  Downtown Houston continues to improve but still has a long ways to go ... especially the southern part (which has improved in some areas over the past several years).  My gym is the Downtown YMCA ... when working out you get a lovely view of an ugly, fenced in lot (Travis @ Pease) and from the parking garage you get an amazing view of Downtown's most iconic eyesore, the abandoned Days Inn. 

That all being said, Discovery West is looking so good rising above Disco Green .... that along with Parkside are such great additions to that part of Downtown. 

if the Bell building  goes thu with the conversation , the effect it will have on that area will be massive, with.the demise of the  Greyhound and potentially the Mcdonalds ...I think south  side will not be recognizable in another  10 years 

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4 hours ago, 004n063 said:

Ehhh, I'm as die-hard a Houston evangelist as you'll find, but I think we're still in last place in that regard. Disco Green is great, Market Square is great, the northern blocks of Main are...well, certainly vibrant.

But there are still sooo many acres of surface parking and so many lifeless parking garages here. I haven't spent much time in Dallas, so I may be wrong, but my sense from the Google Streetview machine is that it's at least more "filled out" than downtown Houston.

We're making great progress, but there's still a big mountain left to climb.

Filled out? There are so many massive gaps in downtown Dallas. Even Uptown Dallas is nothing compared to how many people from that area rave about it. I'd say Deep Ellum is their best neighborhood overall. I have a buddy who just came down this past weekend from Dallas to race for Crash The Course, and even he was blown away. He said something along the lines of, "I wish Dallas was this alive downtown." 

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2 hours ago, 004n063 said:

Ehhh, I'm as die-hard a Houston evangelist as you'll find, but I think we're still in last place in that regard. Disco Green is great, Market Square is great, the northern blocks of Main are...well, certainly vibrant.

But there are still sooo many acres of surface parking and so many lifeless parking garages here. I haven't spent much time in Dallas, so I may be wrong, but my sense from the Google Streetview machine is that it's at least more "filled out" than downtown Houston.

We're making great progress, but there's still a big mountain left to climb.

Downtown Dallas does seem to me less sterile and more organically “lived in,” with no retail in the tunnels. The different street grids and street widths also give it more character.

The level of investment in downtown Houston versus downtown Dallas is just so visible, though, with Uptown getting almost all the new development.

I think I would definitely rather attend a convention in Houston versus Dallas, however, that convention center is just in an absolutely awful location. Disco Green really is a visual jewel. This development will make it even more so.

 

 

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24 minutes ago, mattyt36 said:

Downtown Dallas does seem to me less sterile and more organically “lived in,” with no retail in the tunnels. The different street grids and street widths also give it more character.

The level of investment in downtown Houston versus downtown Dallas is just so visible, though, with Uptown getting almost all the new development.

I think I would definitely rather attend a convention in Houston versus Dallas, however, that convention center is just in an absolutely awful location. Disco Green really is a visual jewel. This development will make it even more so.

 

 

GRB is in an awful location?  It’s an ugly building but to me the location is fine.

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20 minutes ago, steve1363 said:

The losers are more vocal in The Chronicle comments and other forums.  Don’t think they speak for a majority of Houstonians.  Just look at the transformation of downtown over the last 30 years.

the people  who comment on sites like the chronical are the least informed people I've ever read..  remember these are the same people  who swore DG would just become  a homeless camp in a few years after it opens.

 

Google  " Houston  opens discovery green and read the comments " lmao 

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1 hour ago, jhjones74 said:

I get excited about the prospects downtown from threads like these, then I see comments like below that unfortunately represent a very large part of the growing Houston population. From today’s chronicle article on I45 expansion:

https://www.houstonchronicle.com/news/houston-texas/transportation/articleComments/i45-rebuild-conroe-beltway-8-17716104.phpF7A9E319-9564-4B53-9C7C-EFE938313B18.jpeg.fe058202b49f4be48a84c4fc94a93fed.jpeg

People like this speak with little knowledge about what's happening around them. Developers wouldn't waste their time if these comments were true. 

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5 hours ago, steve1363 said:

GRB is in an awful location?  It’s an ugly building but to me the location is fine.

I'm not sure, but I think he was talking about Dallas's convention center?

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1 hour ago, cityliving said:

 

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Nice shots. Enjoyed seeing this angle. Curious how this side of Discovery West was coming along. I particularly enjoyed seeing the 610 bridge crossing over the port as the backdrop. Great depth. I would like to see some shots from the southeast corner of downtown north to get a better feel of the residential area with downtown as the backdrop. It would be nice to see some that angle of the Trebly park area. And reflect on the shrinking parking desert. This area has great potential.

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On 1/27/2023 at 2:28 PM, cityliving said:

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That poor little Four Seasons just looks sad in this picture. The poor short thing. This building should go over and give it the hug its giving the Embassy Suits right now. Tell it that its okay to be mediocre.

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28 Floors Total, slightly shorter looking than One Park Place. Based on the renderings the southern most "shoulder", is only 1-2 stories shorter than the next, then the same for the tallest after that. The façade also appears to be a bit taller than the floor on each section. So, not much more if that corner piece is topped out.

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On 1/23/2023 at 6:20 PM, cityliving said:

 

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Holy crap. These are some of my new favorite pictures of Houston! I always tell people it smelled funky because we were right next to all the refineries, and nobody really knew what that meant . . .

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