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Discovery West: Mixed-Use Development Downtown By Skanska


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On 10/28/2022 at 12:20 PM, Ross said:

Frost Town did not extend as far South as MMP. MMP is on the site of Union Station. Here's the 1944 aerial, with Frost Town circled in red

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Late coming back to the discussion, I was recalling another photo of the neighborhood just south of Union Station that you can see in the arial shot, I didn't realize that wasn't contiguous. 

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Me, I'm not torn up about what was torn down, so much, as what was planned and never came to fruition. Its the lost potential that bothers me more than anything else. Which is why I really want this Discovery west project to get off the ground and succeed. That potential is still there, and what Skanska is promising is one of the most exciting projects I think downtown has seen in years

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On 10/12/2022 at 1:32 PM, cityliving said:

 

 

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What is it you have to do to get an exemption from the FAA’s 200ft altitude limitation in that area? And even the general 400ft limit elsewhere, like near the Allen? 
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2 hours ago, MidCenturyMoldy said:

What is it you have to do to get an exemption from the FAA’s 200ft altitude limitation in that area? And even the general 400ft limit elsewhere, like near the Allen? 
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Technically you don't need an exemption if you take off and operate within 400 ft of a tall building. The ceiling is measured from the top of the structure, not ground level. Since cityliving appears to be flying at around 1,000 ft, they should have notified (and received approval from) the FAA regarding day/time and flightpath.

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47 minutes ago, phillip_white said:

Technically you don't need an exemption if you take off and operate within 400 ft of a tall building. The ceiling is measured from the top of the structure, not ground level. Since cityliving appears to be flying at around 1,000 ft, they should have notified (and received approval from) the FAA regarding day/time and flightpath.

I know a drone pilot must have a Part 107 license to fly 400 feet higher than a tall building as long as it’s within 400 feet of said building, but I thought that was only in unrestricted airspace. 400 feet being the ceiling in all unrestricted space. 
 

My Mavic Air 2 won’t even let me take off in my own backyard without LAANC authorization because I live in a 0 feet restricted area. That’s what I get for buying a know-it-all drone. 😄
 

Come to think of it, I’m not sure LAANC authorization will even cover it in a 0ft restricted zone. 

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2 hours ago, cityliving said:

You have to apply for a special Commercial license with the FAA.

Yes, a Part 107 license. But I was thinking Part 107 pilots still had to observe ceiling restrictions and can exceed the ceiling limit only when flying within 400 feet of a building… so I thought you got an exemption and I was wondering how that was done.

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On 10/31/2022 at 11:14 PM, aachor said:

This is clearly a massive deathray mirror designed to torch the Embassy Suites using the light of the setting sun.

My idea was Embassy Suites would close that location and Skanska would buy the dirt and tear down the building. I like your idea better. 

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I'm trying to find the Hines Texas Tower thread and have gone through all 9 pages back and forth several times and didn't see it. Maybe I'm going blind or was looking for the wrong title. I just saw it last week in Going Up. Can someone tell me what page it is on? Thanks!

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42 minutes ago, bobruss said:

I'm trying to find the Hines Texas Tower thread and have gone through all 9 pages back and forth several times and didn't see it. Maybe I'm going blind or was looking for the wrong title. I just saw it last week in Going Up. Can someone tell me what page it is on? Thanks!

It was moved to the Downtown section.

 

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well dang, i haven't been to discovery green in so long and have never looked at this thread! holy crud! 😮 i love discovery green so i am glad it just keeps getting better (and growing!)

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This will compliment One Park Place nicely and it seems to help the Embassy hotel as well. I think the hotel sitting on such a small portion of the block all alone made it seem a little out of place, regardless of the overall facade. The new building helps make up for some of those lost aesthetics.

On 11/17/2022 at 9:36 AM, gene said:

well dang, i haven't been to discovery green in so long and have never looked at this thread! holy crud! 😮 i love discovery green so i am glad it just keeps getting better (and growing!)

And they purchased the 2 lots across the street for two more buildings

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On 11/2/2022 at 10:51 PM, Ross said:

Chinatown died because the people that lived and did business there moved out to the new Chinatown off of Bellaire Blvd. Chinatown was still going pretty strong in 1991 when my wife and I started dating. We would go to the Sun Deluxe Café, Lucky Inn(I think that was the name), and a couple of other places. The kung fu movies were still going strong at that time, as was Kim Son. When we moved to Midtown in 1998, we still went to many of those places, but it was becoming obvious that the center of mass was moving out West, where the larger Asian population was living. The Vietnamese places in Midtown stuck it out longer, but they eventually went West as well.

The Houston Center area was dead before the buildings were razed. The 80's made it worse. The oil bust then was worse than you could imagine. I went back to school because there were no jobs. Fortunately, when I graduated in 1989, the jobs had started to come back.

No one would have been willing to pay the taxes on buildings that made no money at all, least of all the Houston Center developers. Razing the buildings did no harm as far as I can tell.

And, let's not forget that Houston is a tear it down city. It always has been. 

I miss Sun Deluxe and Lucky Inn and the rest of old Chinatown so much. Around 1976, Sun Deluxe was the place that taught me that I actually DID love Chinese food after the terrible stuff I had when I was a kid.

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On 11/4/2022 at 10:00 AM, bobruss said:

I'm glad it never went through. The overall design looked like a 32 block walled city. It was very brutalist and not very inviting. It did the same thing the tunnels do in my estimation. Take people off the streets! It was a poor decision to just come in and take everything down like they did, And I'm sure we lost some great little buildings that would have created a nice human scale area for retail, dining and entertainment.

It would have been terrible, although it would have made a great location for filming movies about dystopian futures.

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