36-Story Multifamily High-Rise At 3615 Montrose Blvd.

[Urbannizer]

New project planned here, this time as multifamily.

 

SubdivisionPlatPDF_MULTI FAMILY AT MONTROSE.pdf

[Urbannizer]

Merged

[hindesky]

Looks like this is the developer.....

https://www.us-living.com

[houstontexasjack]

This appears to be the company behind the replat:

https://www.us-living.com

 

2 minutes ago, hindesky said:

Looks like this is the developer.....

https://www.us-living.com

Jinx 😊

[CREguy13]

Can you say 30 floors with ground floor retail.... Hopefully they can get this financed soon with all the economic activity starting to occur in Houston and the high demand for living in this area. 

Hope the design fits the neighborhood obviously, but wow does Montrose continue to blow up with great height, density and quality of businesses, restaurants.

https://verosade.com/projects/

[Urbannizer]

15 minutes ago, CREguy13 said:

Can you say 30 floors with ground floor retail.... Hopefully they can get this financed soon with all the economic activity starting to occur in Houston and the high demand for living in this area. 

Hope the design fits the neighborhood obviously, but wow does Montrose continue to blow up with great height, density and quality of businesses, restaurants.

https://verosade.com/projects/

[hindesky]

There is an alley on the back side of the plat, although hard to see but that is what I read from the render.

[BEES?!]

40 minutes ago, CREguy13 said:

Can you say 30 floors with ground floor retail.... Hopefully they can get this financed soon with all the economic activity starting to occur in Houston and the high demand for living in this area. 

Hope the design fits the neighborhood obviously, but wow does Montrose continue to blow up with great height, density and quality of businesses, restaurants.

https://verosade.com/projects/

Really cool if this is what’s going in!

[kennyc05]

Is this the same address as Baccos 😐

[hindesky]

12 minutes ago, kennyc05 said:

Is this the same address as Baccos 😐

A company called Montrose And Marshall owns/owned 2/3 of the block up to the alley. I saw them doing core samples last week.

Edited March 24, 2022 by hindesky

[clutchcity94]

Isn’t Soundwaves up the street also being sold? And what about that Chinese consulate…is it still closed?

[hindesky]

5 minutes ago, clutchcity94 said:

Isn’t Soundwaves up the street also being sold? And what about that Chinese consulate…is it still closed?

Soundwaves is for sale but still open. Chinese consulate is still closed. 

[hindesky]

Someone pointed out to me that this can happen in the Audubon Place Historical Neighborhood because it is just out of the boundary map at the alley. 

[AOD]

Does not really see how this 31 stories black slab of cement really fits on an Historical neighborhood of two stories houses and bungalows ….

Edited March 31, 2022 by AOD

[Montrose1100]

8 hours ago, AOD said:

Does not really see how this 31 stories black slab of cement really fits on an Historical neighborhood of two stories houses and bungalows ….

It's basically catty corner to other high rises along a major thoroughfare?

[Luminare]

1 hour ago, Montrose1100 said:

It's basically catty corner to other high rises along a major thoroughfare?

Its also outside the historic district, on a property that is an "unrestricted reserve" which means they literally can do and have it look like however they want.

[ChannelTwoNews]

'512

Based on the map attached to the project pages, it seems to match this site.

Proposed Case for TX: 2022-ASW-6891-OE (faa.gov)

Proposed Case for TX: 2022-ASW-6894-OE (faa.gov)

Proposed Case for TX: 2022-ASW-6895-OE (faa.gov)

Proposed Case for TX: 2022-ASW-6896-OE (faa.gov)

[houstontexasjack]

Golly, 512’ is quite a bit of height for a residential structure with only 30 stories.

For comparison, Skyscraper Center says L’Colombe D’Or Tower is 452’ with 34 floors.

[KinkaidAlum]

Are we getting a spire or anything with a non-flat roof? Recent 30 story residential buildings are usually around 350-400 feet. 

[Urbannizer]

21 minutes ago, KinkaidAlum said:

Are we getting a spire or anything with a non-flat roof? Recent 30 story residential buildings are usually around 350-400 feet. 

I’m thinking this as well or the number of stories has increased. Leaning towards the latter because the architectural feature would have to be pretty significant.

[Avossos]

6 hours ago, Urbannizer said:

I’m thinking this as well or the number of stories has increased. Leaning towards the latter because the architectural feature would have to be pretty significant.

I’m all for non flat roofs

[hindesky]

[TheSirDingle]

5 hours ago, hindesky said:

It must have some type of architectural feature/spire at 31 floors and 512 ft. Parkside residence by discovery green is 43 floors and clocks in at 468 feet, along with Brava at 46 floors and 549 ft. Wonder what the new design is?

[hindesky]

If this get built these two giant oak trees on Montrose Blvd will have to come down or severely trimmed. There are currently 4 buildings left on the proposed property. Bacco's, London Underground Salon, a tiny house next to it and one next to the alley. The bus got tagged by several taggers shortly after Hop Heads closed. Every building except Bacco's is empty.

[Urbannizer]

https://verosade.com/builders/

[Luminare]

Holy moley!

[H-Town Man]

Thought Question: As Montrose Boulevard transforms into Post Oak Boulevard II, will there be any net increase in pedestrian activity?

 

[cityliving]

Well, It’s not the ugliest building I’ve ever seen, maybe there will be some changes in the architecture. 

[Texasota]

1 hour ago, H-Town Man said:

Thought Question: As Montrose Boulevard transforms into Post Oak Boulevard II, will there be any net increase in pedestrian activity?

 

I don't think this comparison is really fair to either street. 

But theres way more pedestrian activity on cross streets currently than on Montrose Blvd, just because Montrose is less comfortable and theres less facing the boulevard itself.

Both of those issues have to be addressed, but if these new developments result in wider sidewalks and retail/other destinations worth walking to, then definitely. 

Edited May 12, 2022 by Texasota

[H-Town Man]

40 minutes ago, Texasota said:

But theres way more pedestrian activity on cross streets currently than on Montrose Blvd, just because Montrose is less comfortable and theres less facing the boulevard itself.

Do you see it becoming more comfortable anytime soon with what's being built on/proposed for it? Fortress-like towers/garages and afterthought retail...

 

[Texasota]

We don't know what the Skanska development or the Kroger replacement are really going to look like (though no driveway from Montrose at the Kroger development is a good start.)

Even with this thing - what does the ground floor actually look like? WHat is in the space facing Montrose? Could go either way.

[H-Town Man]

44 minutes ago, Texasota said:

We don't know what the Skanska development or the Kroger replacement are really going to look like (though no driveway from Montrose at the Kroger development is a good start.)

Even with this thing - what does the ground floor actually look like? WHat is in the space facing Montrose? Could go either way.

I do have high hopes for those developments and for Westheimer in general. I don't have much hope for the ground floor of this. Maybe a 2,000 SF retail space would be par.

[TheSirDingle]

Gives me futuristic vibes, I like it. 

[J Money]

Oh man, imagine Skanska's block at Westheimer, then Hanover/LColombe D'or, this, and St Thomas' new building all spaced out by 2 blocks. Montrose will all of a sudden have a skyline!

[KinkaidAlum]

The height mystery seems solved. This looks like 26 residential floors over at least 10 floors of garage space. This is much closer to a 40 story tower than a 30.

 

[wilcal]

Oh HELL yeah! 

That looks great. Montrose Blvd is going crazy. 

Honestly I'm kind of glad that lot is still empty at Fairview. Who knows what we might get there now. 

[arche_757]

I realize this is an early rendering, looks like there is still quite some refinement to be done - which, you’d expect a project of this size and scope to wait and release a more final rendering.

A building such as this would look better surrounded by other tall structures in either Downtown or Uptown.

I am not a big fan of this or the X Houston high rise.

[Texasota]

Towers in Uptown aren't really "surrounded" by each other - setbacks are enormous and there are, of course, the many strip malls. It's getting somewhat denser but I'd say each tower still largely stands alone.

And Montrose Boulevard, just between Westheimer and 59, already has, what, 4 towers? 

I would love to see stuff like this downtown, but Montrose Boulevard is in a weird in-between state right now and would really benefit from density. I don't think I actually want it to become a corridor of towers, but this is Houston. Nothing ever becomes all one thing anyway. A mix of eclectic retail and midrise apartments regularly pierced by a tower? Sounds perfect to me. 

[Amlaham]

Idk if I'm fantasizing, but is anyone else seeing a consistent skyline form between Uptown and Downtown? Uptown to Greenway started to fill up with new residential buildings near ROD to 2929 Weslayan. Greenway to Montrose has its fair share of high-rises, from the cluster of buildings near Allen parkway to the cluster off of Kirby. Montrose to midtown/ museum district/ downtown is filling up nicely as well. I know its not a back to back skyline but the gap has been looking smaller and smaller over the last few years!

Imagine if we can get a super tall observatory near Kirby & Westheimer (think space needle). We would have a 360 skyline view from that point! 

[houstontexasjack]

22 hours ago, Amlaham said:

Idk if I'm fantasizing, but is anyone else seeing a consistent skyline form between Uptown and Downtown? Uptown to Greenway started to fill up with new residential buildings near ROD to 2929 Weslayan. 

I snapped this on my flight today. Definitely gaps between prominent towers but the skyline is more like a mountain range in the Rockies with lower peaks between the taller ones.

Edited May 14, 2022 by houstontexasjack

[strickn]

“ arche_757 said: 

I realize this is an early rendering, looks like there is still quite some refinement to be done - which, you’d expect a project of this size and scope to wait and release a more final rendering.”

 

Spoiler

https://www.dreamvisuals.nl/urby-dallas

 

there are three towers like it being planned beside the Trinity River in Dallas, not by this developer, but with the first tower structurally topped out 6mos. ago

[arche_757]

4 hours ago, strickn said:

“ arche_757 said: 

I realize this is an early rendering, looks like there is still quite some refinement to be done - which, you’d expect a project of this size and scope to wait and release a more final rendering.”

 

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https://www.dreamvisuals.nl/urby-dallas

 

there are three towers like it being planned beside the Trinity River in Dallas, not by this developer, but with the first tower structurally topped out 6mos. ago

Those don’t have the harsh parking podium.

[Big E]

1 hour ago, arche_757 said:

Those don’t have the harsh parking podium.

Because they built the parking garages separate from the buildings.

[arche_757]

Right.  They still don’t have a harsh parking podium.

[Big E]

On 5/15/2022 at 8:56 AM, arche_757 said:

Right.  They still don’t have a harsh parking podium.

This building is on relatively condensed plot of land, no room to build a separate parking garage.

[arche_757]

Ok.  I don’t like it.  Is that not clear?

You are welcome to your opinion as well.

[Texasota]

I'm no fan of parking podiums, but I think it will be interesting to see this from a better angle, even at the current rendering's quality.

The current rendering shows a shot of the whole tower, which is great for tower fetishists but doesn't tell us much about the experience of walking past or through it. 

I think a useful comp is the BIG office tower under construction downtown - that has a potentially obnoxious podium as well, but additional renderings (and hopefully the built reality) show that they actually put a lot of thought into the experience from the sidewalk.

[tangledwoods]

IMO parking podiums are 1000% better than a detached freestanding garage.  When you have a podium you have to resolve parking into the overall building facade (some people do this FAR better than others).  When you have a freestanding garage it seems much more likely for the developer to just treat it as a pure parking barn and give the thing zero to little ornamentation. 

[H-Town Man]

17 hours ago, Big E said:

This building is on relatively condensed plot of land, no room to build a separate parking garage.

The point is, what is the effect on Montrose Blvd? If you care about Montrose Blvd being a great boulevard, then the end result facing the street is all you care about. If you can put a detached garage away from the street, that is always better than a parking podium on the street. Would the Rice Hotel look better if it had ten levels of parking between floors 1 and 2? No, it looks better with the parking in a separate garage facing Travis and Prairie.

Most people on this forum just want to see Houston have as many tall shiny buildings as possible. Some of us have come to the realization that Houston has a ton of tall shiny buildings (fourth most in the U.S.) and yet we're not a city that many people want to visit, or that has many neighborhoods where lots of people are outside walking around. So something besides tall shiny buildings is needed. We've got the tall building ingredient. We need some other ingredients.

Montrose is one of the most aesthetically pleasing streets in the city, and yet it's dead to pedestrian life. What is the problem? How do we fix it? Do we fix it by building highrises with stacks of parking looming over the street and cars zipping in and out of curb cuts all day?

Edited May 17, 2022 by H-Town Man

[toxtethogrady]

On 5/13/2022 at 8:42 AM, Texasota said:

Towers in Uptown aren't really "surrounded" by each other - setbacks are enormous and there are, of course, the many strip malls. It's getting somewhat denser but I'd say each tower still largely stands alone.

And Montrose Boulevard, just between Westheimer and 59, already has, what, 4 towers? 

I would love to see stuff like this downtown, but Montrose Boulevard is in a weird in-between state right now and would really benefit from density. I don't think I actually want it to become a corridor of towers, but this is Houston. Nothing ever becomes all one thing anyway. A mix of eclectic retail and midrise apartments regularly pierced by a tower? Sounds perfect to me. 

Weird but not weird. Downtown Dallas jumped the Woodall Rogers to merge with Uptown. But Montrose was always supposed to be a funky bohemian enclave, so that's been lost.