jermh Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 (edited) 17 hours ago, Purdueenginerd said: I might be subject to recency bias in my opinion of the typical projects Gensler peforms, at least from my anecdotal standpoint. I'm not trying to convey theyre snobby, I apologize-- that wasnt my intent. I guess every time I've worked with Gensler its typically a huge multi-national firm as the owner. Hopefully thats not enough to doxx me ; ). That's why i'm generally surprised they would go for and win the bid for a parking garage, even one that's automated. My only thought would be that something else is attached to this project that hasnt been revealed yet. Alternatively, perhaps Gensler just has a lot of experience with this automated garages in other markets and thats why they won. If this is a Phase 1 garage and Phase 2 tower project, Gensler has direct experience a few blocks away from designing the One Market Square garage (Minus the automated parking portion). I'm armchair speculating with you that there is a Phase two of some sort, and it'll probably beat One Market Square to completion at this point. 😉 Edited November 18, 2019 by jermh Fixed quote. I had quoted the wrong post. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thatguysly Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 I mean at least it has a decent facade. That's all I got after thinking residential was coming. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate99 Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 This block feels like everything around it has it's "back turned" to it, with corridors formed/forming along McKinney, Capitol, Main, and Discovery Green. It's a bit of DT's "back of house". If something new and fun were to pop up, I'm hoping for the International Tower/Market Square Garage half block, then the block across main from Local Foods. With Skanska jumping in over by DG/Toyota Center with something large scale, more car storage might be a good thing. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texasota Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 Has anyone done a thorough analysis of existing parking downtown? Private garages, public garages, the giant garage under the theater district, street parking... Because there has to be a ton. I definitely believe that better parking management would be incredibly helpful, but the idea that, even with additional development, downtown needs more parking seems completely disconnected from reality to me. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subdude Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 At one point this block was targeted for hotel. I guess there's more demand for parking. Changed topic title accordingly. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H-Town Man Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, Nate99 said: This block feels like everything around it has it's "back turned" to it, with corridors formed/forming along McKinney, Capitol, Main, and Discovery Green. It's a bit of DT's "back of house". If something new and fun were to pop up, I'm hoping for the International Tower/Market Square Garage half block, then the block across main from Local Foods. With Skanska jumping in over by DG/Toyota Center with something large scale, more car storage might be a good thing. Agreed that if this area needs more parking, this is about the best block you could put it on. But to Texasota's comment, the issue likely isn't how much parking exists, it's how it gets utilized. You have massive garages for Houston Center that pretty much sit empty in the evenings, as far as I'm aware. If there were some way to get those spaces into the market, you probably wouldn't need this. Skanska would do themselves and the world a favor if they built a multi-block, underground garage on their land like the theater district has. But with sewers and utilities under all those streets, that would probably cost a ton. Edited November 18, 2019 by H-Town Man 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilcal Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 5 hours ago, Subdude said: At one point this block was targeted for hotel. I guess there's more demand for parking. Changed topic title accordingly. 'Van Life' + automated parking garage + AirBNB = .....?? 2 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChannelTwoNews Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 Larger version of the above rendering now on the Mathis Group website... 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtNsf Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 9 minutes ago, ChannelTwoNews said: Larger version of the above rendering now on the Mathis Group website... wow, pretty cool looking just for parking, and I love it ! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angostura Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 Kind of terrible from a street-scape point of view. I'd be interested to see how this competes with nearby non-automated garages. I wonder how quickly they can empty it out after an Astros game, for example. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H-Town Man Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 1 minute ago, Angostura said: Kind of terrible from a street-scape point of view. If it wasn't Gensler, I would think it was the same architect as did the Main Food Store reno. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luminare Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 9 minutes ago, Angostura said: Kind of terrible from a street-scape point of view. I'd be interested to see how this competes with nearby non-automated garages. I wonder how quickly they can empty it out after an Astros game, for example. Would be cool if the colors lite up depending its utilization. Like Orange for astros games, red for rockets games, a color for the convention center etc... That would be unique. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angostura Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 9 minutes ago, H-Town Man said: If it wasn't Gensler, I would think it was the same architect as did the Main Food Store reno. Of the four façades, one is a blank wall, one is a mostly blank wall with a glass door to some kind of lobby, and two are not shown. Presumably there will be a place for cars to enter and exit somewhere. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H-Town Man Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 7 minutes ago, Luminare said: Would be cool if the colors lite up depending its utilization. Like Orange for astros games, red for rockets games, a color for the convention center etc... That would be unique. Very Dallas though. Once you start down the LED path, forever will it dominate your destiny. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luminare Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 Just now, H-Town Man said: Very Dallas though. Once you start down the LED path, forever will it dominate your destiny. no...there is another....neon. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kbates2 Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 Yeah this is an embarrassment to Gensler. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillip_white Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 Let's take this block to the next level with some automated GFR. Perhaps an Amazon Go? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luminare Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 9 minutes ago, phillip_white said: Let's take this block to the next level with some automated GFR. Perhaps an Amazon Go? Amazon Drone Delivery, Domino's Self-Drive Delivery, and corner to corner Japanese style vending machines! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nate4l1f3 Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 Tuuurible Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedistrict84 Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 (edited) 6 hours ago, Angostura said: I'd be interested to see how this competes with nearby non-automated garages. I wonder how quickly they can empty it out after an Astros game, for example. I’m guessing not very quickly. 1,400 vehicle capacity with maybe a dozen or so loading bays. I guess we won’t know for sure until we see the layout, but I’m not optimistic this will be practical in that kind of scenario. Edited November 21, 2019 by thedistrict84 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angostura Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 13 hours ago, thedistrict84 said: I’m guessing not very quickly. 1,400 vehicle capacity with maybe a dozen or so loading bays. I guess we won’t know for sure until we see the layout, but I’m not optimistic this will be practical in that kind of scenario. Yeah, I imagine it'd be a mess. I think it works in a situation where valet parking works, but in a situation where everyone wants to leave at about the same time (like a baseball game, or 5PM on a Tuesday in an office building), it might not be ideal. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillip_white Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 17 hours ago, thedistrict84 said: I’m guessing not very quickly. 1,400 vehicle capacity with maybe a dozen or so loading bays. I guess we won’t know for sure until we see the layout, but I’m not optimistic this will be practical in that kind of scenario. Just like a bag of chips in a vending machine, someone's car is going to get stuck on the way out. 4 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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H-Town Man Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 Dreamy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purdueenginerd Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 14 hours ago, Urbannizer said: http://www.mathisgroup.com/blog?id=3334 There are gonna be some sick neon lights for sure on this facade. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luminare Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 11 minutes ago, Purdueenginerd said: There are gonna be some sick neon lights for sure on this facade. One can hope. Probably will be LED though. Oh well. Houston could easily be the city of neon. Just seems to fit the vide here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 15 hours ago, Luminare said: One can hope. Probably will be LED though. Oh well. Houston could easily be the city of neon. Just seems to fit the vide here. LED lighting is more environment friendly, and cheaper to run and maintain. It also withstands storms better, especially with flying debris. If it were my building, neon wouldn't be on the table at all. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
htownbro Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 6 hours ago, Ross said: LED lighting is more environment friendly, and cheaper to run and maintain. It also withstands storms better, especially with flying debris. If it were my building, neon wouldn't be on the table at all. Yes, leave the neon for Dallas. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate99 Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 Still wondering how the automated part works. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilcal Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 54 minutes ago, Nate99 said: Still wondering how the automated part works. Most work with the car parked on a little sled, and the system moves the sled around. This video isn't great, but you will get the gist. 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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