H-Town Man Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 2 hours ago, j_cuevas713 said: I'm all for this development but I feel like destroying these old structures would be a loss. The buildings were not owned by the city and I am pretty sure were not part of the sale. Just the vacant land around them. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houston19514 Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 (edited) On 8/19/2019 at 6:00 AM, Angostura said: Basically, yes. HCSA built and owns the stadium, and leases it to the Astros, who retain substantially all revenue generated inside, including naming rights and non-baseball events. In return, they pay a few million dollars a year in rent (now $8.1M, with the lease extension). The team also pays for certain stadium improvements. BTW, an annuity purchased with the $178M naming rights fee paid by Coca Cola would more than pay for the team's lease costs over the 28-year term of the naming rights deal. Except that all the information I can find indicates naming rights were sold for $100 Million, not $178 Million. And, more important, I'm pretty sure that MinuteMaid/Coca Cola did not write a check for the full amount; I think it's paid out over the term of the deal. 50 minutes ago, H-Town Man said: The buildings were not owned by the city and I am pretty sure were not part of the sale. Just the vacant land around them. You are correct that the buildings were not part of this sale. However, the entity making this purchase (1800 Texas, LLC) already owns the buildings on the block. Edited August 21, 2019 by Houston19514 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angostura Posted August 22, 2019 Share Posted August 22, 2019 20 hours ago, Houston19514 said: Except that all the information I can find indicates naming rights were sold for $100 Million, not $178 Million. And, more important, I'm pretty sure that MinuteMaid/Coca Cola did not write a check for the full amount; I think it's paid out over the term of the deal. From here: Quote Meanwhile, The Coca-Cola Co.’s (NYSE: KO) naming rights for Minute Maid Park expire in 2029, the Houston Business Journal previously reported. That 28-year sponsorship cost the Atlanta-based company $178 million. ...though you're probably right about the payment terms. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoustonMidtown Posted September 25, 2019 Share Posted September 25, 2019 There is one of those big white variance signs hung up in front of the house - it is all handwritten, which I haven't seen before. I will try to get a pic the next time I go by.... 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post HoustonMidtown Posted September 29, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted September 29, 2019 Untitled by Houston Midtown, on Flickr Untitled by Houston Midtown, on Flickr 14 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBTX Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 1 hour ago, HoustonMidtown said: Untitled by Houston Midtown, on Flickr What a highly aesthetic ampersand. I wonder if they handwrote it to keep up with the "historic" mission. 2 1 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texasota Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 Found it: https://cohweb.houstontx.gov/hpt/ShowDoc.aspx?src=Fz2MxIvY98wbwXrosnsKUA%3d%3d&DocID=ipeNchP4X%2fk%3d Looks like a temporary move to a different block, hopefully to allow this block to be redeveloped. Really hope they have something ultimately in mind for this house though. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigereye Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 (edited) On 8/14/2019 at 8:20 PM, Brandon55 said: Anybody know anything about this Late to this party but Crane has had Block 161 land since 2016. When the MMP lease was extended in 2018, it was first mentioned as a site for a ballpark village. On 11/4/2017 at 10:40 AM, tigereye said: Reminder that Crane owns 2 buildings on Texas south of Home Plate (probably the bars on block 161. With Nau Center for Heritage dead, could this be the spot? http://houston.culturemap.com/news/restaurants-bars/03-30-16-astros-owner-gives-the-inside-scoop-on-his-two-new-restaurants-near-minute-maid-park/#slide=0 On 7/9/2018 at 11:34 PM, tigereye said: Buried in the Chronicle’s article is the first mention of a ballpark village in downtown. The reroute is brought up but Crane already owns property on block 161. https://www.chron.com/sports/astros/article/Astros-plans-future-improvements-Minute-Maid-Park-13061261.php Astros may now own the halfway house site currently being bulldozed. To recap: Stros now have land outside Home Plate and Center Field gates. On 12/17/2019 at 12:27 PM, ekdrm2d1 said: A Cherry representative said Minute Maid is the new owner. I’m not sure if that means the Harris County Houston Sports Authority or Crane and the team. Edited December 29, 2019 by tigereye 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post HoustonMidtown Posted January 20, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 20, 2021 Looks like they are moving the old train 12 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nate4l1f3 Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 Has this always been in goin up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shasta Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 Any renderings? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hindesky Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 I talked with the Cherry foreman about where this was going to be transported to. He said they had decided on one place but that has since changed and he wasn't sure where the new location was going to be. It will be moved in the coming week though. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highrise Tower Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 I rarely see Cherry House Moving. Very cool. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigereye Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 (edited) Home Plate BBQ closed 1/6. They’re auctioning off their equipment. Coupled with the train relocation, something might be happening on this project. Crane owns the land and the Astros already extended MMP’s lease. Where does the Cohn house end up? https://www.click2houston.com/news/local/2021/01/22/restaurant-equipment-from-home-plate-grill-bar-to-be-sold-at-online-auction/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=snd&utm_content=kprc2&fbclid=IwAR1ZlhpBKrEmduJPJrG3JGMnLQ4U9csT28TsUVc8vcoQK4uaBLlnbEkICYs Edited January 24, 2021 by tigereye 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hindesky Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 Train was still there. I didn't get to talk with the workers but will check back on Saturday to see if they are moving it yet. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_cuevas713 Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 On 1/24/2021 at 5:43 AM, tigereye said: Home Plate BBQ closed 1/6. They’re auctioning off their equipment. Coupled with the train relocation, something might be happening on this project. Crane owns the land and the Astros already extended MMP’s lease. Where does the Cohn house end up? https://www.click2houston.com/news/local/2021/01/22/restaurant-equipment-from-home-plate-grill-bar-to-be-sold-at-online-auction/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=snd&utm_content=kprc2&fbclid=IwAR1ZlhpBKrEmduJPJrG3JGMnLQ4U9csT28TsUVc8vcoQK4uaBLlnbEkICYs I cross my fingers these buildings aren’t torn down. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilcal Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 (edited) 10 hours ago, j_cuevas713 said: I cross my fingers these buildings aren’t torn down. There's no way. Astros have to be particularly attuned to optics right now. At least, that is what I'm telling myself. Also, won't really miss home plate. Stopped going there after I went there before a game and they had a pint special yet were bringing me 12 oz plastic cups. Waitress/Bartender/Manager all had no idea why I thought that was unacceptable. "This is a pint" "No, that's only 12 oz". I think I got mad ticked off enough that I submitted a complaint to Texas Weights and Measures but I don't think it went anywhere 😄 Edited January 30, 2021 by wilcal 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 3 hours ago, wilcal said: There's no way. Astros have to be particularly attuned to optics right now. At least, that is what I'm telling myself. Also, won't really miss home plate. Stopped going there after I went there before a game and they had a pint special yet were bringing me 12 oz plastic cups. Waitress/Bartender/Manager all had no idea why I thought that was unacceptable. "This is a pint" "No, that's only 12 oz". I think I got mad ticked off enough that I submitted a complaint to Texas Weights and Measures but I don't think it went anywhere 😄 My British friends would have told them a pint is 20 ounces... 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate99 Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 I remember that locomotive being in Hermann park back in the day. I want to say that they let kids climb on it. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hindesky Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 14 minutes ago, Nate99 said: I remember that locomotive being in Hermann park back in the day. I want to say that they let kids climb on it. Yeah, the guys I talked said it was at the Zoo. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUCAJUN Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 I guess the elephant in the room is asking what are they planning to do with this space by moving these. W Hotel construction staging? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hindesky Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 1 hour ago, HOUCAJUN said: I guess the elephant in the room is asking what are they planning to do with this space by moving these. W Hotel construction staging? Now would be a great time to build it but hotels are among the hardest hit industries during the pandemic, so I kind of doubt that. Hope to be proved wrong though. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Two Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 With a completion horizon being what it is, many years, any one building a hotel now will be well within the safety of 'outside the pandemic' and 'post recovery' by it's completion. The vaccines have all hit the mark as far as efficacy is concerned, the most recent federal orders put us at 300 million by fall. I think they'd be fine to start now and by then the economy will be roaring. I think all this working from a distance slowly fades back too, there's nothing like meeting in person, talking in person, humans are social apes as much as an introvert like myself wants to pretend we could all work from home I seriously doubt it'll stick. People in most fields will make up any excuse necessary to get people grouped back together again. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hindesky Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 Train is still there but is now high enough to get those wheels I saw under it. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilcal Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 There was a train-themed area in the park render for NHHIP cap park for this approximate section of 59. I wonder if it might end up there some day. *assuming NHHIP gets done **assuming we come up with local money for said park space 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloud713 Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 What is NHHIP? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hindesky Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 2 minutes ago, cloud713 said: What is NHHIP? http://www.houstontx.gov/planning/nhhip/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigereye Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 4 hours ago, wilcal said: There was a train-themed area in the park render for NHHIP cap park for this approximate section of 59. I wonder if it might end up there some day. *assuming NHHIP gets done **assuming we come up with local money for said park space Why not Union Station? There’s an empty green area north of the CF gate, across heritage park from Union Station. Seems like a perfect spot for an old locomotive... 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilcal Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 1 hour ago, tigereye said: Why not Union Station? There’s an empty green area north of the CF gate, across heritage park from Union Station. Seems like a perfect spot for an old locomotive... This spot? That would make a lot of sense! 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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