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Now you see part of the reason McDonald's is so successfull, they don't mess around

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I was curious as to how far over the new McD's will be compared to the old one so I overlaid the two the best I could. Thought I'd share.

 

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3/2/2013:  Holes in the ground.  Steel in the holes.

 

These holes can't be for the teirs to Astoria.  I see no foundation at all.

 

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These holes can't be for the teirs to Astoria. I see no foundation at all.

The holes are for the new McDonald's.

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Will this be an urban McDonalds or will it have a drive thru? Will it be two stories? It would be nice if it was art deco to match the Astoria.

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Will this be an urban McDonalds or will it have a drive thru? Will it be two stories? It would be nice if it was art deco to match the Astoria.

 

 

Just went by and talked to a guy who I think was a manager at McDonald's. What I got from him:

-McDonald's is closing in 10 days.

-McDonald's reopening in May. They are demolishing their current building and putting up a new one that's pushed over more towards the apartments at 1111 Post Oak. They are going to clear the site and get a new building up and opened within 3-4 months.

-This is the new McDonald's:

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Based on this picture they had at the site, I'd say it is a pretty generic design.  There will be a drive thru and I'm pretty sure it's only one story.

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3/9/2013 Weekly Update (of the McD):  They filled in each of the holes with about a foot (?) of concrete, covered them up, trenched out everything for the plumbing, put that in, and covered it up.

 

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Who knows why they would put concrete in the ground and cover

Who knows why they would put concrete in the ground and cover it up? Foundation stability?8

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Lockmat: Who knows why they would put concrete in the ground and cover?

 

 

Jimmy Hoffa

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I'm confused, too. So, the McDonald's they're building is what...just being moved a little from the original and sports a different look? Now what's to come of Astoria? is it going to be built AROUND the new McDonalds or what?

 

I was on board with this project til maybe a couple of weeks ago, then I got lost. I initially thought they were going to move the McD's down the street.

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McDonald's is moving a few feet east. Astoria will build right next door. There is enough room

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Get ready to get nerded out..Those are isolated shallow foundations or footings. Theyre typically used in low loading situations, many times theyre unreinforced. Square footings are the natural choice for cases where a single column load is to be supported. This appears to be the case above. I'm taking your word that concrete was poured in and not lean concrete or soil stabilization material. If it was concrete, burying of the footing is not that unusual. I'll simply quote my old foundations design book, (Engineering of Foundations-Rodrigo Salgado - Purdue University) Chapter 8, Shallow foundations in Soil 

 

 

 

The reinforcing mesh (fig. 8-11) and the formwork, if used, are prepared and positioned inside the excavation at this point (fig 8-12). Fig 8-12( B) also shows four dowels that will later be used to connect the steel columns to the footing. Concrete placement is the next step. The required cover ranges from approximately 40mm (1.5in). when a lean concrete coat is present at the base of the footing to approximately 75 mm (3 in) in the absence of any coat. If the soil is not aggressive (corrosive), a typical concrete mix would have a compressive strength of the order of 25-30 MPa (3500-4000 PSI). Concrete placement is followed, after curing, by back filling above the footing up to the level of the ground surface. this back fill is usually compacted.
 

 

From a difference source, a rough schematic of a footing with design variables for bearing calculations. Note the column where axial load is transferred in above the surface of the soil, while the bearing is below. That column could be steel (known as I-beams to most) or reinforced concrete. 

 

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I seriously doubt this McDonalds is building a steel reinforced concrete structure. Therefore It would not surprise me if there are dowels/baseplates for their steel columns later that are buried to reduce damage or trip hazards while they work on other elements of the structure. All this I've said is an educated guess based on two pictures---neither of which actually show the footings. I deal in the industrial world, not commercial. I could still be incorrect :)

 

 

 

 

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Great post.  For the record... let me say that I would not know the difference between concrete, lean concrete, or a soil stabilization material.  It was grey and came out of a cement truck, that's all I know.  

Photos from this week...

 

3/13/2013:  They dug out the perimeter and uncovered the footings (thanks PurdueEnginerd).

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3/15/2013:

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Hmm will be interesting to see how they squeeze a drive through in there, or if they do at all. It would seem "traffic-y" to have people enter crossing the drive through line on foot.

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Hmm will be interesting to see how they squeeze a drive through in there, or if they do at all. It would seem "traffic-y" to have people enter crossing the drive through line on foot.

 

They've got plenty of room there on the left hand side of those pictures.  All you need is 12' and that might even be more than is required for a drive thru.  They've probably got close to 18' or so to work with between the building and the property line.

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can you imagine living in a condo where you could hear people ordering in a McDonald's drive through line?  I can't imagine it would be pleasant to hear fatties shouting at the speaker for their supersized fries and mcflurries all day

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So, are we discussing about McDonald's or Astoria here?

 

Filling the time until Astoria is built... Either that, or Astoria fails to secure funding and we have a huge thread on a new Wendy's under construction next door :) 

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That would be pretty awful, yet hilarious, if the Astoria does fail and all we are left with is a detailed weekly log of the McDonald's construction.

 

Sad.

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That would be pretty awful, yet hilarious, if the Astoria does fail and all we are left with is a detailed weekly log of the McDonald's construction.

 

Sad.

 

Don't mention it! The Astoria is own of my favorite towers going up. I was already disapointed when the Titan never went up.

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Don't mention it! The Astoria is own of my favorite towers going up. I was already disapointed when the Titan never went up.

 

Isn't the Titan and Astoria the same project? I thought they just changed the name is all..

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Isn't the Titan and Astoria the same project? I thought they just changed the name is all..

 

Nope. Same developer, same land, different project. The Astoria actually started out as a rectangular building being pushed for the BLVD Place land that Ed Wulfe ended up selling to Apache.

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They claim to have pre-sold 40% of the units. I guess the EB-5 foreign investor visa is paying off!

They even had a party to celebrate this past week.

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Thanks for the pics, but am I the only one on the forum that thinks this McDonalds is stupid? This makes almost zero sense. Don't understand the hype.

3/30/2013 Weekly McD update:

 

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There is no hype. It's just the only thing happening there right now. It gives us something to watch while we wait. It's going to look ridiculous sandwiched in there like that, though.

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I am wrong. McDonald's is being demolished in Q1, 2013.

 

Half wrong, but looking at this footprint, how in the world are they going to build this condo? Am I missing something here? McDonalds is being rebuilt on the largest corner chunk of land, leaving very little left for the Astoria.

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Half wrong, but looking at this footprint, how in the world are they going to build this condo? Am I missing something here? McDonalds is being rebuilt on the largest corner chunk of land, leaving very little left for the Astoria.

 

The pictures on this page don't show the extent of the site.  The trailer is going to be removed before construction in order to build Astoria.  There will be plenty of room for the tower and McDonalds to live in awkward harmony.

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