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I drove by the Interpose site today and noticed the former Cash America Pawn at the corner of Washington Ave and Durham Drive (SW Corner) had a notice of variance sign. It also looked like some light demo work had been taking place since the roof had been removed. I didn't get the chance to take a picture of the sign, but it said "Bottled Blonde Houston."

 

I did some digging and found Eater wrote on article on it in December:

https://houston.eater.com/2018/12/13/18138907/bottled-blonde-washington-avenue-houston-opening

 

Not sure if a thread has already been started, but I thought I'd post an update that there is progress on the site.

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Cycled by this a few times in the last weeks and not a lot has been done. The original building appears a little older than I initially thought. Load bearing masonry walls, wooden sawn lumber joists, etc...  Took a quick image on my bike ride earlier today, 4x4 wood timber with steel connections: Just kind of weird framing design.... The wood members exposed to the elements arent looking that great either...  I'm curious if they discovered something during demolition and are working on the real construction drawings now. 

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16 hours ago, Purdueenginerd said:

 I'm curious if they discovered something during demolition and are working on the real construction drawings now.

 

Not that that ever happens... :ph34r:

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On 9/7/2019 at 9:25 PM, Purdueenginerd said:

Cycled by this a few times in the last weeks and not a lot has been done. The original building appears a little older than I initially thought. Load bearing masonry walls, wooden sawn lumber joists, etc...  Took a quick image on my bike ride earlier today, 4x4 wood timber with steel connections: Just kind of weird framing design.... The wood members exposed to the elements arent looking that great either...  I'm curious if they discovered something during demolition and are working on the real construction drawings now. 

7S9ng2E.jpg

 

On 9/8/2019 at 2:05 PM, mollusk said:

 

Not that that ever happens... :ph34r:

 

Ah yes the ole...we don't have original drawings, and then thru selective or exploratory demo you find what is really going on. Those are fun. If its load bearing masonry then it can't really be after 1920's or 1930's because after that was when veneer masonry was proliferated throughout the country in mass. Honestly if they are going to leave this exposed like this they might as well just demo the whole thing. Not like its a unique piece or anything. They can probably salvage the foundation though.

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2 hours ago, Luminare said:

 

 

Ah yes the ole...we don't have original drawings, and then thru selective or exploratory demo you find what is really going on. Those are fun. If its load bearing masonry then it can't really be after 1920's or 1930's because after that was when veneer masonry was proliferated throughout the country in mass.

 

Thats like half my projects! 

 

 

As for the the load bearing masonry walls, Anecdotally, I'm working on a retrofit project built in the 1960s with load bearing masonry walls. Thats probably the latest example of a building where Ive had to deal with it, but yeah. Most of the time pre 20's and 30's. I looked on google earth. Building was not there in 1944, but definitely is in 1953. 

 

 

 

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14 hours ago, Purdueenginerd said:

 

Thats like half my projects! 

 

 

As for the the load bearing masonry walls, Anecdotally, I'm working on a retrofit project built in the 1960s with load bearing masonry walls. Thats probably the latest example of a building where Ive had to deal with it, but yeah. Most of the time pre 20's and 30's. I looked on google earth. Building was not there in 1944, but definitely is in 1953. 

 

 

 

 

The part of our work that most don't even understand is how multi-variant, and multi-discipline it truly is. This is the moment where I as an aspiring architect am no longer an architect, but have to don the cap of an archaeologist and then at the same time have to don the cap of psychologist. On the one hand the archaeologist is there to investigate objectively what is going on, and then as a psychologist its as if I put the building on a sofa and ask it questions...like, why are you this way? what do you want to be? haha. Its fun, but also gives a mind numbing headache. 

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I could talk about this all day. My favorite projects are nearly always renovation projects. They can be made hell by an Owner (or architect, sorry!) that doesnt understand the limitations of not having drawings or even they do... not understanding that building systems and codes 50+ years ago are a lot different than now. That being said, for this building. I would be surprised if they had access to the original drawings. I sometimes have to go to the city to get access to public record drawings, and I dont think i've had much luck on anything past 1960. Much less for a 1 story retail building. 

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23 hours ago, Purdueenginerd said:

I could talk about this all day. My favorite projects are nearly always renovation projects. They can be made hell by an Owner (or architect, sorry!) that doesnt understand the limitations of not having drawings or even they do... not understanding that building systems and codes 50+ years ago are a lot different than now. That being said, for this building. I would be surprised if they had access to the original drawings. I sometimes have to go to the city to get access to public record drawings, and I dont think i've had much luck on anything past 1960. Much less for a 1 story retail building. 

 

And the city will have the permit set, not the as builts.

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On 10/5/2019 at 5:08 PM, MJQ77007 said:

Does anyone know if bottled blonde plans were approved?  Construction has started on the site.

 

Not sure, but I rode by again this weekend and there did not appear to be any new activity. 

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I just ...don't get it. I mean it's fine, but why not lean into the art deco/moderne-ness of the original (no longer extant in any meaningful sense) building? That could have been really cool, even without keeping too close to the original design? This would be fine as a new build, but it just seems like a missed opportunity.

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On 7/4/2020 at 5:16 PM, Texasota said:

....but it just seems like a missed opportunity.

This could be said for the bulk of the Washington corridor redevelopment.

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I actually don’t mind this at all. I get that the original structure was beautiful but aesthetically this isn’t ugly. I love small brick buildings. 

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On 7/9/2020 at 2:53 PM, nate4l1f3 said:

Wonder if the rooftop patio is still planned?

 

I feel like with this whole COVID thing going on, outdoor eating options are going to increase across the board.

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