talltexan83 Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 Went to Phoenicia today for lunch........they were tearing up Austin St. in front. I'm assuming (hoping) this would be related to the new bike path from Midtown. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilcal Posted March 6, 2020 Author Share Posted March 6, 2020 3 minutes ago, talltexan83 said: Went to Phoenicia today for lunch........they were tearing up Austin St. in front. I'm assuming (hoping) this would be related to the new bike path from Midtown. Yes, this is! Great to hear they've started. Thanks for reporting in. I'll swing by to take some pics this weekend hopefully. There is pavement repair, two floating bus stops and bike parking on a raised island going on. The bike lane itself will be similar to the one on Gray, so mostly just paint with the concrete parking barriers added on top of the street. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jermh Posted April 20, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 20, 2020 (edited) Looks like they are taking full advantage of the COVID traffic break. This was spray paint lines a week or so ago when I rode from Downtown to Herman Park and back. Edited April 20, 2020 by jermh 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zaphod Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 I had this idea the other day, why don't we have a numbering scheme sort of like freeways do but for major bike routes? It's not really that important for wayfinding, necessarily, since people have maps on their phones(though unlike a car you cannot look at gps while riding a bike without some kind of google glass device that doesnt exist. It would rather be a form of marketing. There'd be some legitimacy to being on a bike route that's important enough to have a number. Signs could be made, with a sheild design sort of like the interstate system. It would in some ways be a measure of commitment, to the contiguity of a trail. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cspwal Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 There needs to be better signage on the trails in general. When you're biking, it's a lot harder to look at a map then if you were walking, so it's easy to take the wrong path and go half a mile the wrong way. White Oak trail is a good example - if you're heading west, the split with the MKT trail isn't marked, and you need to keep right to go left onto it. Going east, I made the wrong choice getting back into downtown for which trail to take - and I had my phone giving me directions. A numbering system would let you have small signs with arrows that are still readable. You could even have "North Bank" and "South Bank" for the bayou trails 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X.R. Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 Man the Austin lane came up QUICK. As did the Cleburn lane and Polk right now. The Austin lane in midtown looks great, they still need to put together the Austin lane from Holman to McGowen and all of Downtown. But man, that portion is nice. Rode around the network the other day, Third Ward, Museum D, and Downtown will be set after all this is done. Even though Museum District has sharrows, the volume of the cars even pre-Covid is low enough that it doesnt matter. Also, I like that they outlined the parking on La Branch because it seems to have slowed traffic even further. There could be an additional lane going North-South in east downtown, maybe Hutchins street would be nice. With Polk and the Columbia Tap, East Downtown would be set too. I think Midtown needs something a protected lane going East-West. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeerNut Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 I'm still holding out for the bike lane on Alabama. That would be a game changer for the Inner Loop. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cspwal Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 5 hours ago, X.R. said: There could be an additional lane going North-South in east downtown, maybe Hutchins street would be nice. The north-south traffic volume in east downtown is so low, and the streets are so wide, I don't think you need to have any more dedicated bike lanes - just ride on the street. Emancipation is probably the only North-South street I would feel uncomfortable riding on, going all the way to Scott 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texasota Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 (edited) Yeah, but this is also about making people who don't feel safe riding now feel like they're not about to get hit by a car. The bike plan includes lanes on Alameda - I would argue for extending those all the way up Crawford. There is *zero* reason for Crawford to be as wide as it is. Or to put it differently: the streets are so wide, that striping actual bike lanes is just formalizing the existing condition AND has the added benefit of helping people less comfortable biking on the street feel like they're supposed to be there and are relatively safe. Edited April 22, 2020 by Texasota 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilcal Posted May 12, 2020 Author Share Posted May 12, 2020 On 4/21/2020 at 8:46 AM, cspwal said: There needs to be better signage on the trails in general. When you're biking, it's a lot harder to look at a map then if you were walking, so it's easy to take the wrong path and go half a mile the wrong way. White Oak trail is a good example - if you're heading west, the split with the MKT trail isn't marked, and you need to keep right to go left onto it. Going east, I made the wrong choice getting back into downtown for which trail to take - and I had my phone giving me directions. A numbering system would let you have small signs with arrows that are still readable. You could even have "North Bank" and "South Bank" for the bayou trails There are some wayfinding improvements being made as part of the new bike lanes. There is a sign on the White Oak/MKT split, although I'll admit it's not great. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samagon Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 is that sign new? I thought it had been there for a while. I did notice a new sign on the bridge a bit farther down the spring st trail, warning of uneven pavement. you can pinchflat on that bridge if you aren't paying attention. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoustonMidtown Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 16 hours ago, samagon said: is that sign new? I thought it had been there for a while. It has been there for quite a while... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cspwal Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 Yeah that sign has been there... just not very helpful for following white oak trail or mkt trail 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texasota Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 I don't think most people pay that much attention to trail names though. I think that sign is fine, but it might be helpful to include some destinations associated with each trail though. Especially once the White Oak trail connects through. Maybe expanded signs that *do* include the trail names would look more like this: MKT Trail Spring Street Houston Heights 19th Street White Oak Bayou Trail Stude Park Cottage Grove The reality is that pretty much everybody has a phone on them at all times though - I think it's more important that the City makes sure that Google Maps is kept up to date as bike projects are completed *and* that all trails and protected bike lanes correctly get the thicker green lines. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cspwal Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 I really don't like using my phone when biking - I usually have it tucked away where it won't leap to freedom, inevitably screen down on to a pointy rock. I admit I'm probably in the vast minority though 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samagon Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 23 hours ago, Texasota said: The reality is that pretty much everybody has a phone on them at all times though - I think it's more important that the City makes sure that Google Maps is kept up to date as bike projects are completed *and* that all trails and protected bike lanes correctly get the thicker green lines. this is partly our responsibility as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texasota Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 It shouldn't be. The City should absolutely be maintaining, updating, and publishing basic infrastructure data. And it largely does - but I would prefer to see a more official process of (for example) updating and correcting bike lane/trail data on quarterly basis and, as part of that process, pushing it to Google Maps, Apple, etc. On a similar note, I would love to see Metro provide Google transit data based on frequency so that all the bus routes on the high frequency network show up as lines like the light rail does. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_cuevas713 Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 I took this route by accident the other nite and man this route is going to be long. I saw the chalk markings from Midtown thru Downtown. The finished section is beautiful! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilcal Posted May 19, 2020 Author Share Posted May 19, 2020 5 hours ago, j_cuevas713 said: I took this route by accident the other nite and man this route is going to be long. I saw the chalk markings from Midtown thru Downtown. The finished section is beautiful! If only it extended down to Hermann Park as well It'll just be "community bikeway" south of HCC with painted sharrows and wayfinding signs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jermh Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 (edited) 10 minutes ago, wilcal said: If only it extended down to Hermann Park as well It'll just be "community bikeway" south of HCC with painted sharrows and wayfinding signs. I'm think the portion south of HCC is already done. Last time I rode from Herman park to Downtown there the new sharrows were marked decently, frequently. and the traffic was low enough that it didn't feel dangerous to me. Edited May 19, 2020 by jermh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_cuevas713 Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 4 hours ago, wilcal said: If only it extended down to Hermann Park as well It'll just be "community bikeway" south of HCC with painted sharrows and wayfinding signs. Yeah I saw the sharrows and I wasn't completely disappointed. Because they were newly painted and visible to drivers, I could tell they were slowing down and paying attention. Lost of people were biking in and around the Hermann Park area. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samagon Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 On 5/19/2020 at 7:41 AM, wilcal said: If only it extended down to Hermann Park as well It'll just be "community bikeway" south of HCC with painted sharrows and wayfinding signs. On 5/19/2020 at 7:52 AM, jermh said: I'm think the portion south of HCC is already done. Last time I rode from Herman park to Downtown there the new sharrows were marked decently, frequently. and the traffic was low enough that it didn't feel dangerous to me. it is done. I rode it a few weekends ago. I was disappointed before they started it. I wish they had used Caroline south of 59, that road is underutilized and very wide as roads go, and has really great visibility, crossing Wheeler on Caroline sucks, so maybe they could have jogged over to Austin south of 59. as it is I will probably do it anyway, use Caroline, it just seems to be a much better street for visibility than Crawford, La Branch, or Austin south of 59. as far as the official bike path in this corridor, it's whatever now, but doesn't make it the good solution. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilcal Posted May 21, 2020 Author Share Posted May 21, 2020 20 hours ago, samagon said: it is done. I rode it a few weekends ago. I was disappointed before they started it. I wish they had used Caroline south of 59, that road is underutilized and very wide as roads go, and has really great visibility, crossing Wheeler on Caroline sucks, so maybe they could have jogged over to Austin south of 59. as it is I will probably do it anyway, use Caroline, it just seems to be a much better street for visibility than Crawford, La Branch, or Austin south of 59. as far as the official bike path in this corridor, it's whatever now, but doesn't make it the good solution. 13 year study found that painted (non-separated bike lanes do nothing. Sharrows are actually more dangerous. https://usa.streetsblog.org/2019/05/29/protect-yourself-separated-bike-lanes-means-safer-streets-study-says/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilcal Posted May 21, 2020 Author Share Posted May 21, 2020 Progress on Austin St in downtown: 7 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samagon Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 (edited) On 5/21/2020 at 10:19 AM, wilcal said: 13 year study found that painted (non-separated bike lanes do nothing. Sharrows are actually more dangerous. https://usa.streetsblog.org/2019/05/29/protect-yourself-separated-bike-lanes-means-safer-streets-study-says/ ha, I guess if you can't convince people to pay for the safety of others, find a way to show that they are paying for their own safety too Quote “Protected separated bike facilities was one of our biggest factors associated with lower fatalities and lower injuries for all road users,” study co-author Wesley Marshall, a University of Colorado Denver engineering professor, told Streetsblog. “If you’re going out of your way to make your city safe for a broader range of cyclists … we’re finding that it ends up being a safer city for everyone.” 20 hours ago, wilcal said: Progress on Austin St in downtown: wow, they're moving pretty quick, on Monday they were still working from Polk to Lamar. roughly a block a day to paint? Edited May 22, 2020 by samagon 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texasota Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 I know back when they were doing Lamar they were going at a rate of one block (paint, armadillos, signals, and all) in a weekend, and not working on it during the week. If they are, instead, just doing paint first, then coming back with barriers and signals, then a block a day seems fine. Not especially fast, but pretty good, especially if they're working more than 2 days a week now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HNathoo Posted May 23, 2020 Share Posted May 23, 2020 8 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilcal Posted September 25, 2020 Author Share Posted September 25, 2020 Four-way stop added to intersection Austin @ Holman by HCC. Really nice touch! Much safer imho. They also added bikeway wayfinding signs on HCC's campus. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post wilcal Posted October 10, 2020 Author Popular Post Share Posted October 10, 2020 Gray St bike signal have been activated. They do give a 2 second head start to cyclists except at intersections where there is a dedicated left (south) turn lane (Milam, Smith, etc) from Gray. Cyclists are held while the left turns get a protected arrow. 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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