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Hanover Autry Park: Mixed-Use At W. Dallas & Allen Parkway


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On 5/22/2021 at 8:30 PM, Highrise Tower said:

HAP demolition.

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Noticed some paperwork still standing in one of the rooms. Thought I would give the zoom a try, see if the signs were legible.

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Once this building is demolished what's going in its place?

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Seems like this only happens in Houston and in poor third world countries. A brand new sidewalk in front of the Lighthouse of Houston, whose primary goal is to assist blind people. A electrical light pole in the middle of the brand new sidewalk is about to be installed. WTF? Who the hell makes these dumb assed decisions?

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4 hours ago, hindesky said:

Seems like this only happens in Houston and in poor third world countries. A brand new sidewalk in front of the Lighthouse of Houston, whose primary goal is to assist blind people. A electrical light pole in the middle of the brand new sidewalk is about to be installed. WTF? Who the hell makes these dumb assed decisions?

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I assume they're going to put up a big sign saying CAUTION: LIGHT POLE in Braille. 

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On 6/26/2021 at 2:58 PM, hindesky said:

Seems like this only happens in Houston and in poor third world countries. A brand new sidewalk in front of the Lighthouse of Houston, whose primary goal is to assist blind people. A electrical light pole in the middle of the brand new sidewalk is about to be installed. WTF? Who the hell makes these dumb assed decisions?

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Looks like a coordination issue. People should know this isn't intentional, but a by-product of working on large sets of drawings that change regularly, and have to be coordinated with at most 5-7 different consultants who then have to relay that info to double that number of subs. Also what people don't know is that when that info is relayed to subs often times they only get the single sheet that applies to their sub with no context to any other. Yeah what you see above is pretty bone headed, but it happens. It could be a number of issues. Sometimes backgrounds in drawings don't get updated. Some times schedules don't coordinate with one another, or it could just be a simple after thought. This will have to be redone anyway as this is clearly an ADA violation. A wheelchair needs at least 4ft of clear space at any landing (stair or ramp). Another reason you see poles all the time is that utility companies are notoriously difficult to work with. The people that work the lines are chill, but the ones running the projects not so much.

In fact to really hit home on what I said above, I kid you not I have to reissue a sheet on a project I'm working on right now because I just noticed in a foundation drawing there is a foosball table in the foundation which is actually part of the ground floor, but for some reason wanted to sit in a foundation haha. Its a miracle buildings are built at all. Its often a three ring circus in this business.

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33 minutes ago, SMU1213 said:

Hanover is burying the power in front of their development. I'd imagine that anything like the above is temporary but who knows. 

I’ve been watching them work on the infrastructure for burying utilities for a long time. It’s all there. I just wonder when it’s going to be used.

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5 hours ago, Luminare said:

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This was a site photo that was taken from someone on here awhile back and its 2 pages back from this post. Its a mockup for the apartment. What exactly is your definition of cheap? Because by an architects definition of cheap...these materials aren't cheap. Lots of metal panel, and lots of brick. Both are really expensive.

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This a render of the apartment complex. I'm sure there were a few changes along the way, but the mockup matches the render. Actually it matches pretty well all things considered.

Maybe reserve judgement until the project is complete???

In that image you quoted, they are already beginning the scaffolding to use to lay brick. In fact most of this building will be some sort of masonry. You don't see any right now because what you are looking at isn't the finished facade, but its the vapor barrier, or plywood, or insulation which goes on before you put on the masonry. Another dead give away that there will be masonry on that facade is if you look at the edges at the bottom of the white portions you see you will find L Shape steel ledge which is where the masonry will sit.

 

I’d be thrilled to see it. Of all people, I️ tend To always be the ‘wait and see’ type. Image I️ quoted Looked to be near finished facade... I’ve seen plenty that have that stucco look. I️ trust You and the others - that this is nowhere near complete. I️ am Excited to see it come together

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1 hour ago, Avossos said:

I’d be thrilled to see it. Of all people, I️ tend To always be the ‘wait and see’ type. Image I️ quoted Looked to be near finished facade... I’ve seen plenty that have that stucco look. I️ trust You and the others - that this is nowhere near complete. I️ am Excited to see it come together

I said the same about Sovereign at the Ballpark but now that I’m seeing some of the units getting painted and finished I’m liking it more. I think these are going to be really nice.  

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18 hours ago, Avossos said:

I’d be thrilled to see it. Of all people, I️ tend To always be the ‘wait and see’ type. Image I️ quoted Looked to be near finished facade... I’ve seen plenty that have that stucco look. I️ trust You and the others - that this is nowhere near complete. I️ am Excited to see it come together

So you are actually right about some parts of it though. Those white portions are Stucco with 1" reveals upon further examination. I think I'll post something later on where everything in the mockup will go on that facade. The design language of this one seems to be that in some areas brick will be on the main level with stucco and framed elements in metal panel, where brick will be above the main floor is as an accent within larger framed elements in black metal panel. This one has a very good mix of a lot of materials, so it should appeal to many. There's even some portions with horizonal wood plank.

Btw its okay to be impatient. Its a cool project. I know the next time I'm back in Houston I'd like to visit and stroll around.

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