Hanover Autry Park: Mixed-Use At Allen Parkway & W. Dallas St.

[shasta]

10 minutes ago, Texasota said:

Eh, the hate on Regent Square is overdone. In reality, Regent Square and Autry Park *together* are completely transforming this part of W Dallas.

No, the hate is 100% justified.

They Value Engineered both the layout and quality it worse than the Embassy Suites downtown and in the process left the lots vacant for over a decade.

Meanwhile, Hanover put together a very high quality product in a fraction of the time and were faced with the same exact issues as GID, from a catchment area analysis.

Two solutions for the exact same type of project in the exact same exact location. But with two drastically different strategies: One went high quality and one went cheap and still has only 2 tenants.

The hate is definitely justified.

The only hope is that they use the now vacant "Block A" to significantly improve the quality but their reputation of Block B may hurt. They can benefit by piggy backing off of the Hanover vision.

[Texasota]

*rolls eyes*

It's definitely not worse than the Embassy Suites. Is Autry Park better? Of course! Is Regent Square as good as what was originally shown? Not at all! But it's not bad!

I think the Dallas St frontage is generally pretty good - it engages the sidewalk and is overall pretty pleasant. There's a lot of potential for the retail plaza at Dunlavy, especially once that street gets rebuilt and the next phase of Regent Square (hopefully) gets built.

The long term vacancy *is* a problem. But hopefully it's one that's finally going away.

[shasta]

3 minutes ago, Texasota said:

*rolls eyes*

It's definitely not worse than the Embassy Suites. Is Autry Park better? Of course! Is Regent Square as good as what was originally shown? Not at all! But it's not bad!

I think the Dallas St frontage is generally pretty good - it engages the sidewalk and is overall pretty pleasant. There's a lot of potential for the retail plaza at Dunlavy, especially once that street gets rebuilt and the next phase of Regent Square (hopefully) gets built.

The long term vacancy *is* a problem. But hopefully it's one that's finally going away.

NOT worse...it's a million times worse.

Go back and look a the original layout, design  and the fact that a number of high quality architects worked on the original scheme.

It went from the best inner loop project to what we have now and add in the fact the lots (A + B) vacant for almost 15 years and A is still vacant.

Even with being open, they still haven't leased the spaces and GID started this project in 2007!

They even built a building across the street with a large scale model!

Compare that progress to Hanover.

[Houston19514]

23 minutes ago, shasta said:

NOT worse...it's a million times worse.

Go back and look a the original layout, design  and the fact that a number of high quality architects worked on the original scheme.

It went from the best inner loop project to what we have now and add in the fact the lots (A + B) vacant for almost 15 years and A is still vacant.

Even with being open, they still haven't leased the spaces and GID started this project in 2007!

They even built a building across the street with a large scale model!

Compare that progress to Hanover.

Someone needs a nap...

[monarch]

42 minutes ago, Houston19514 said:

Someone needs a nap...

^^^ why should he "need a nap"... when he can just POP the TOP?  go shasta go!

[shasta]

1 hour ago, Houston19514 said:

Someone needs a nap...

Someone needs glasses

1 hour ago, monarch said:

^^^ why should he "need a nap"... when he can just POP the TOP?  go shasta go!

Someone had to move to Houston because they wanted to be in a city with a real College Football team

[Paco Jones]

Personally, I share the same sentiment as Shasta, but lack the enthusiasm. 
 

I worked with the design team for a few years on Regent Square (minus the Sovereign).  Everything about the development was top-notch.  Incredible architecture and design permeated what I believed would have been one of the most complete mixed-use developments in Houston  

It was a done deal, Tellepsen even had the major subcontractors chosen and GMP pricing done. 

It was then redesigned with a heavy emphasis on cost savings. Then it got absolutely gutted. 
 

“Look how they massacred my boy.”

[bobruss]

A good friend was on that team and I watched over the years the frustration for him to see the project decompose in real time.

[Luminare]

19 hours ago, shasta said:

No, the hate is 100% justified.

They Value Engineered both the layout and quality it worse than the Embassy Suites downtown and in the process left the lots vacant for over a decade.

Meanwhile, Hanover put together a very high quality product in a fraction of the time and were faced with the same exact issues as GID, from a catchment area analysis.

Two solutions for the exact same type of project in the exact same exact location. But with two drastically different strategies: One went high quality and one went cheap and still has only 2 tenants.

The hate is definitely justified.

The only hope is that they use the now vacant "Block A" to significantly improve the quality but their reputation of Block B may hurt. They can benefit by piggy backing off of the Hanover vision.

Nurse get in here!.....Its bad. We can't save him. This patient has....*sigh*....RSDS....Regent Square Derangement Syndrome....dum dum dummmm

[shasta]

On 8/19/2022 at 8:43 AM, Luminare said:

Nurse get in here!.....Its bad. We can't save him. This patient has....*sigh*....RSDS....Regent Square Derangement Syndrome....dum dum dummmm

You are correct, people all over the world regard Houston as a model of high quality development and superior urban and city planning.

WE are definitely on the short list for most charming cities and every city looks to Houston and wonder how they did it...oh wait, none of that is true and the demise of a quality project like Regent Square to a very bland dull project that can't even get tenants, is a perfect example of a reason why!

Am I wrong, Luminare?

[004n063]

15 hours ago, shasta said:

You are correct, people all over the world regard Houston as a model of high quality development and superior urban and city planning.

WE are definitely on the short list for most charming cities and every city looks to Houston and wonder how they did it...oh wait, none of that is true and the demise of a quality project like Regent Square to a very bland dull project that can't even get tenants, is a perfect example of a reason why!

Am I wrong, Luminare?

Other than the fact that the bike lanes just...end...(are we just supposed to stop existing there?), I actually think RS is still perfectly fine from an urban planning perspective. That's why I'm not at all bothered by the architectural blandness. 

Yes, it's weird that they had so much space dedicated to one bar and nothing else happening at opening, but they need the Hanover and Alta and RS projects to fill up a lot more before more businesses will be able to succeed there. Hopefully the next phase is more interesting, but in the meantime I'll happily take the unit density and lack of street-facing parking. 

Edited August 21, 2022 by 004n063
Typo

[SMU1213]

I just wish RS had built a parapet to block the views of the AC units. They are all I can see now. 

[Avossos]

1 hour ago, SMU1213 said:

I just wish RS had built a parapet to block the views of the AC units. They are all I can see now. 

I just noticed this too. It looks so messy... Gosh.

[Texasota]

Maybe we should move complaining about Regency Square to the Regency Square topic

 

[hindesky]

I was hoping to see some work being done on another section but nothing yet.

[cityliving]

[Urbannizer]

https://www.showcase.com/3712-autry-park-dr-houston-tx-77019/22777270/

 

[004n063]

39 minutes ago, Urbannizer said:

https://www.showcase.com/3712-autry-park-dr-houston-tx-77019/22777270/

 

I get why the developers wouldn't want to highlight competitors, but to me the Alta and RS developments are the real selling points of HAP. They both highlight Hanover's better design and give it a bit of an integrated urban neighborhood vibe, rather than the island-in-suburbia vibe these renderings suggest.

[Big E]

On 9/17/2022 at 3:04 PM, Urbannizer said:

https://www.showcase.com/3712-autry-park-dr-houston-tx-77019/22777270/

 

I thought there was going to be at least one more high rise towards the rear or the development.

[EllenOlenska]

There's a Hanover Montrose looking building behind the tallest building in one rendering, but not in the site map rendering. 

[kennyc05]

1 hour ago, EllenOlenska said:

There's a Hanover Montrose looking building behind the tallest building in one rendering, but not in the site map rendering. 

I've noticed that for a long time in the renderings it looks like the Montrose building.

[Big E]

2 hours ago, EllenOlenska said:

There's a Hanover Montrose looking building behind the tallest building in one rendering, but not in the site map rendering. 

Yeah I noticed that, but I'm pretty sure previous revealed plans and buildout information also showed that they were planning for at least two high rises, in addition to that midrise.

[IntheKnowHouston]

Tout Chocolat, an artisanal chocolate shop from Mexico is coming to Autry Park. I think the Houston store may be the first outpost in the United States.

In addition to chocolate and chocolate candies, Tout Chocolat also offers coffee beverages and desserts.


http://www.toutchocolat.mx



Other confirmed and unconfirmed retail tenants for Autry Park so far include:
 

• Annabelle's

• Turner's Cut

• Auden

• Lick Honest Ice Creams

• TBA restaurant from the team behind Kokoro and Handies Douzo

• Duo (Duo Coffee & Pilates)





The location of Tout Chocolat's shop at Autry Park and rendering of the building:

Edited September 21, 2022 by IntheKnowHouston

[IntheKnowHouston]

Does anyone know if Berg Hospitality has plans to bring their Houston Rodeo and Livestock Show restaurant the Ranch to Autry Park? The Ranch is billed as a steakhouse and saloon. A recent sales tax permit seems to indicate the Ranch will be located either on the ground floor of Hanover Autry Park apartments or another part of the Autry Par development.

[IntheKnowHouston]

Back in either 2020 or 2021, the retail leasing agent for Autry Park released a merchandising plan with concepts and stores. There weren't specific retailers listed, only general descriptions of what may occupy each unit. 

Recently, Autry Park updated the retail section on their website with previously reported retailers. Also listed are confirmations of concepts speculated here a few pages back. When I last checked Autry Park's website in July, the retailers weren't listed.

 

Phase 1: Block A, E, G, and B1
Phase 2: Block B2, C, D, and F

https://autrypark.com/retail-leasing/









A01 - Annabelle's by Ben Berg (4,977 Sq Ft)
A02 - TBA jazz & cocktail bar (3,033 Sq Ft)
A03 -  TBA taqueria & mezcal bar (2,826 Sq Ft)
A04 -  TBA bodega & wine bar (4,191 Sq Ft)
A05 - TBA salon (1,829 Sq Ft)
A06 - Turner's Cut (1,962 Sq Ft)
 

B1-1 - TBA high-volume restaurant with bayou views (5,000 Sq Ft)
B1-2 - TBA breezy boutique with park overlook (5,000 Sq Ft)
B2-2 - TBA wellness & amenities (5,000 Sq Ft) ← May refer to Duo Coffee & Pilates

D01 - TBA bookstore and stationery (2,123 Sq Ft)
D02- TBA all-day cafe (6,000 Sq Ft)

E01 - Auden (2,801 Sq Ft)
E02 - TBA mission-driven fashion (2,567 Sq Ft)
E03 - TBA technical activewear (2,804 Sq Ft)
E04 - Lick Honest Ice Creams (556 Sq Ft)
E05-A - Handies Douzo (or Handies Douzou) (1,921 Sq Ft)
E05-B - TBA sake & whisky bar by Handies Douzo (602 Sq Ft)
E06 - Piermarini (859 Sq Ft)
E07 - TBA shoes & accessories boutique (973 Sq Ft)
E08-A - TBA boutique retail (1,659 Sq Ft)
E08-B - TBA boutique retail (1,659 Sq Ft)
E09 - TBA men's apparel store (2,217 Sq Ft)
E10 - TBA artisanal goods emporium (1,999 Sq Ft)

G01 - TBA restaurant in the round (2,123 Sq Ft)
G02 - Tout Chocolat (1,017 Sq Ft)

Edited September 22, 2022 by IntheKnowHouston

[cityliving]

[hindesky]

[gregpet]

I walk through there pretty regularly (to/from BBP) and still don't really see any action on the retail front. Lot's of discussion and announcements but no build out (that I have seen).

Edited October 7, 2022 by gregpet
clarity

[hindesky]

[IntheKnowHouston]

On 9/20/2022 at 11:22 PM, IntheKnowHouston said:

Back in either 2020 or 2021, the retail leasing agent for Autry Park released a merchandising plan with concepts and stores. There weren't specific retailers listed, only general descriptions of what may occupy each unit. 

Recently, Autry Park updated the retail section on their website with previously reported retailers. Also listed are confirmations of concepts speculated here a few pages back. When I last checked Autry Park's website in July, the retailers weren't listed.

 

Phase 1: Block A, E, G, and B1
Phase 2: Block B2, C, D, and F

https://autrypark.com/retail-leasing/









A01 - Annabelle's by Ben Berg (4,977 Sq Ft)
A02 - TBA jazz & cocktail bar (3,033 Sq Ft)
A03 -  TBA taqueria & mezcal bar (2,826 Sq Ft)
A04 -  TBA bodega & wine bar (4,191 Sq Ft)
A05 - TBA salon (1,829 Sq Ft)
A06 - Turner's Cut (1,962 Sq Ft)
 

B1-1 - TBA high-volume restaurant with bayou views (5,000 Sq Ft)
B1-2 - TBA breezy boutique with park overlook (5,000 Sq Ft)
B2-2 - TBA wellness & amenities (5,000 Sq Ft) ← May refer to Duo Coffee & Pilates

D01 - TBA bookstore and stationery (2,123 Sq Ft)
D02- TBA all-day cafe (6,000 Sq Ft)

E01 - Auden (2,801 Sq Ft)
E02 - TBA mission-driven fashion (2,567 Sq Ft)
E03 - TBA technical activewear (2,804 Sq Ft)
E04 - Lick Honest Ice Creams (556 Sq Ft)
E05-A - Handies Douzo (or Handies Douzou) (1,921 Sq Ft)
E05-B - TBA sake & whisky bar by Handies Douzo (602 Sq Ft)
E06 - Piermarini (859 Sq Ft)
E07 - TBA shoes & accessories boutique (973 Sq Ft)
E08-A - TBA boutique retail (1,659 Sq Ft)
E08-B - TBA boutique retail (1,659 Sq Ft)
E09 - TBA men's apparel store (2,217 Sq Ft)
E10 - TBA artisanal goods emporium (1,999 Sq Ft)

G01 - TBA restaurant in the round (2,123 Sq Ft)
G02 - Tout Chocolat (1,017 Sq Ft)

CBRE, the office leasing agent for the Autry Park mixed-use development, released an updated leasing brochure for the offices.

The brochure includes site plans and floor plans for the offices. It also includes a site plan of confirmed retail tenants at Hanover Autry Park and Hanover Parkview.


https://www.crexi.com/lease/properties/358172/texas-autry-park

https://api-lease.crexi.com/assets/358172/flyer

 

 

This is from the brochure; the lettering is off in the brochure, so it doesn't match up entirely:

 

Premier mixed-use development in Houston

Autry Park has two luxury multifamily projects, and numerous highly
anticipated restaurants and retail concepts opening in 2022. 

Multifamily

C. Hanover Autry Park

Rising 24 stories above the Houston skyline is the new Hanover
Autry Park, featuring 324 well-appointed apartment homes.


G. Hanover Parkview

This 8-story residence features 422 apartment homes complete with upscale elegances, and cutting-edge technology and conveniences.

Restaurants

A. Annabelle’s

American brasserie with a relaxed atmosphere and views of Buffalo Bayou from Berg Hospitality Group


B. Auden

Michelin-starred concept focusing on vegetable-forward, globally inspired dishes (except this is NOT a Michelin-starred restaurant)


D. Turner’s Cut

High-end steakhouse, from Berg Hospitality Group, that serves up rare cuts of meat from Japan and the Americas


E. Lick Honest Ice Creams 

Seasonal and sustainable artisan ice cream shop



F. Handies Douzo 

Nori-wrapped hand rolls and sushi omakase



H.  Sake and Whiskey Bar


 

Services & Soft Goods

I. Piermarini 

Family-owned specialty men and women’s clothing


J. Duo

Coffee lounge, and spin and pilates studio

 

 

[004n063]

I think "fancy development promotional" is my least favorite writing style.

 

"upscale elegances"

[hindesky]

The tower crane operator who works for TAS just messaged me on IG saying his bosses just told him they are moving him to a Hanover high rise project to build a 42 story high rise here in Houston. He is currently operating the tower crane at the Marquette Companies White Oak apartments. He was told he would transfer over to his new job around Jan-March. He was also the operator at the Allen project on the taller crane and the tower crane operator at the Hanover River Oaks. Only building that qualifies in that height range is the one at Hanover Autry Park.

[kennyc05]

54 minutes ago, hindesky said:

The tower crane operator who works for TAS just messaged me on IG saying his bosses just told him they are moving him to a Hanover high rise project to build a 42 story high rise here in Houston. He is currently operating the tower crane at the Marquette Companies White Oak apartments. He was told he would transfer over to his new job around Jan-March. He was also the operator at the Allen project on the taller crane and the tower crane operator at the Hanover River Oaks. Only building that qualifies in that height range is the one at Hanover Autry Park.

Nice! I can't wait for that tower to be built it's gonna have one hell of a presence on Allen Parkway and Memorial!

[hindesky]

Based on the render the 42 story building should be here.

[MidCenturyMoldy]

On 11/4/2022 at 6:06 AM, 004n063 said:

I think "fancy development promotional" is my least favorite writing style.

 

"upscale elegances"

It specifically appeals to the types of people who don't want "downscale elegances." 

[004n063]

49 minutes ago, MidCenturyMoldy said:

It specifically appeals to the types of people who don't want "downscale elegances." 

You jest, but I feel like "downscale elegance" describes all of my favorite places in Houston.

[hindesky]

[hindesky]

[toxtethogrady]

On 11/18/2022 at 9:31 PM, hindesky said:

The tower crane operator who works for TAS just messaged me on IG saying his bosses just told him they are moving him to a Hanover high rise project to build a 42 story high rise here in Houston. He is currently operating the tower crane at the Marquette Companies White Oak apartments. He was told he would transfer over to his new job around Jan-March. He was also the operator at the Allen project on the taller crane and the tower crane operator at the Hanover River Oaks. Only building that qualifies in that height range is the one at Hanover Autry Park.

Not over on Post Oak Blvd? That one's 42 stories.

[ChannelTwoNews]

17 hours ago, toxtethogrady said:

Not over on Post Oak Blvd? That one's 42 stories.

It's not a Hanover project.

That one is by Deiso Moss and it is proposed for 43 stories.

[toxtethogrady]

That's a lot of tall high-rise residential in a just a few short years. I used to think 35 stories was pretty big...

[MidCenturyMoldy]

On 11/23/2022 at 7:43 AM, ChannelTwoNews said:

That one is by Deiso Moss and it is proposed for 43 stories.

“We acquire, develop and mange…”. 😮 

Like we really need any more mangy buildings.

From the same link:

2120 Post Oak Blvd.

Deiso Moss is developing a 43 story mixed use tower on the coveted Post Oak Blvd in Houston, TX. The tower will consist of 25,000SF of retail, 100,000 square feet of office and 350 multi family apartments.

How many families in each apartment? More than three is considered a downscale elegance.

Edited November 26, 2022 by MidCenturyMoldy

[EllenOlenska]

This whole thing is gonna weird me out when it turns out exactly like its renderings. 

[MidCenturyMoldy]

3 hours ago, EllenOlenska said:

This whole thing is gonna weird me out when it turns out exactly like its renderings. 

IKR! I thought there were building codes prohibiting that.

Edited November 26, 2022 by MidCenturyMoldy

[Jimmy Bob]

Is the new building residential?  Apartments or condos?  Where exactly does it sit on the property - on West Dallas or on Allen Parkway?  Is it 42 stories?

[BEES?!]

11 minutes ago, Jimmy Bob said:

Is the new building residential?  Apartments or condos?  Where exactly does it sit on the property - on West Dallas or on Allen Parkway?  Is it 42 stories?

Looks like Mixed-Use Apartments/Retail/Office :)

I’m not sure what the orientation is? Maybe there’s been a clear site plan somewhere

Edited November 27, 2022 by BEES?!

[hindesky]

I think the new 42 story high rise will be here, corner of Marston St., Autry Pk Ave. and Allen Pkwy. Gate was open so I could see inside, brand new surveyor stakes. The mid rise office building in the sign would be right next to it to the east.

 

 

 

Edited December 2, 2022 by hindesky

[hindesky]

I went by this and saw a worker coming out of the fenced area where the 42 story apartments will be. I asked him a few questions about it but he pointed out another worker who would know more, he said this will start in two weeks, confirmed the 42 story and TAS being the concrete contractor. He also said the mid rise office building next to it will start soon.

[CREguy13]

18 minutes ago, hindesky said:

I went by this and saw a worker coming out of the fenced area where the 42 story apartments will be. I asked him a few questions about it but he pointed out another worker who would know more, he said this will start in two weeks, confirmed the 42 story and TAS being the concrete contractor. He also said the mid rise office building next to it will start soon.

Amazing.  This development and general area is going to be special for Houston.

[kennyc05]

26 minutes ago, hindesky said:

I went by this and saw a worker coming out of the fenced area where the 42 story apartments will be. I asked him a few questions about it but he pointed out another worker who would know more, he said this will start in two weeks, confirmed the 42 story and TAS being the concrete contractor. He also said the mid rise office building next to it will start soon.

That's good to hear! Now it's time for Regent Square to get going!