Trae Posted May 1, 2008 Share Posted May 1, 2008 Game 4 in Utah. When Okur got the rebound. You don't remember T-Mac calling out Coach Rick?I remember that, but your quote doesn't make sense. "It's all my fault unless we lose"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sifuwong Posted May 1, 2008 Share Posted May 1, 2008 Ha Ha! Tru Dat...Believe it or not, SLC is a pretty cool, pretty hip, little city. The rest of the state? Not so much. I actually have to agree with you. SLC has some nice bars. Lots of nice college gals. I've noticed when i was there that many of them don't wear bras...lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedScare Posted May 1, 2008 Share Posted May 1, 2008 "Coach should have put Deke in! It's all my fault, unless we lose, then it's on Landry and Coach!I have to admit, being a Utah Jazz fan, you probably know much more about character and integrity than us Rockets fans.Karl Malone - Father of the Year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDeb Posted May 1, 2008 Share Posted May 1, 2008 I have to admit, being a Utah Jazz fan, you probably know much more about character and integrity than us Rockets fans.Karl Malone - Father of the YearUhh... probably don't want to go there, Red.*cough* *cough* Calvin Murphy *cough* *cough* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottf Posted May 1, 2008 Share Posted May 1, 2008 Uhh... probably don't want to go there, Red.*cough* *cough* Calvin Murphy *cough* *cough* Funny! I have to admit, being a Utah Jazz fan, you probably know much more about character and integrity than us Rockets fans.Karl Malone - Father of the Year I assure you that I am the last person in this world that thinks he's a moral authority on anything. I just don't think you should call out the coach that has had your back all year after a particularly difficult loss. I'm not saying that makes T-Mac a bad guy or anything. I just think its bad for his team and doesn't make him look very good. The guys on 610 radio were ripping him apart for it. Perhaps they know more about character and integrity than I do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lockmat Posted May 1, 2008 Share Posted May 1, 2008 This was too funny not to repost. I saw it at utah board. Let's hope it's not true this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottf Posted May 3, 2008 Share Posted May 3, 2008 This was too funny not to repost. I saw it at utah board. Let's hope it's not true this year. I guess T-Mac gets another participation award. Jazz win. Just as I said they would. See you next year, Rockets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedScare Posted May 3, 2008 Share Posted May 3, 2008 So, are you going to Salt Lake for the 1st Round Playoff Winner banner hanging ceremony? Uhh... probably don't want to go there, Red.*cough* *cough* Calvin Murphy *cough* *cough* Hey, Calvin has NEVER been accused of not being in his daughters' lives. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sifuwong Posted May 3, 2008 Share Posted May 3, 2008 A depleted Rockets team made it a tough series for the Jazz! Congrats to the Rockets for a memorable season! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottf Posted May 3, 2008 Share Posted May 3, 2008 A depleted Rockets team made it a tough series for the Jazz! Congrats to the Rockets for a memorable season!I agree. The Rockets could have shut it down after Yao went down but they didn't. That is a credit to their coach and their team. They will be much better next year. But IMO they need to upgrade point guard, get a reliable 3 point shooter, and acquire bench depth.Congrats Rockets on a good season. Next year The Rockets will be a much more difficult team to beat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottf Posted May 3, 2008 Share Posted May 3, 2008 (edited) So, are you going to Salt Lake for the 1st Round Playoff Winner banner hanging ceremony? In fact, I will be in Utah later this week but please allow me to clarify something. I realize your team hasn't been out of the first round in many, many years but in case you are confused or can't remember that long ago; they don't actually give out banners for getting out of the first round. They usually put banners up for Eastern/Western Conference Champions or World Champions. I do understand your confusion given your team hasn't sniffed the second round in over a decade. One more note, Championships won in the Jordan era when Jordan was playing baseball instead of basketball come with an asterisk, quite like the Spurs Championship of the strike shortened season, and aren't really championships at all, now are they? Or is that revisionist history? Clutch City! Edited May 3, 2008 by scottf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trae Posted May 3, 2008 Share Posted May 3, 2008 Utah has to be so lucky. No Yao this series, Rafer injured for the second half, and three Rockets starters have to have surgery this offseason, and were playing on injuries.Good luck Utah against the Lakers. You are going to really need it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottf Posted May 3, 2008 Share Posted May 3, 2008 Utah has to be so lucky. No Yao this series, Rafer injured for the second half, and three Rockets starters have to have surgery this offseason, and were playing on injuries.Good luck Utah against the Lakers. You are going to really need it.I like Utah's chances against the Lakers. It's the Spurs that I fear...So what do you think the Rockets need to do in the off season? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trae Posted May 3, 2008 Share Posted May 3, 2008 You don't have to worry about the Spurs since you won't get to them . For the offseason? Get rid of guys like Luther Head and Bobby Jackson (maybe package them together) for someone like Maggette. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lockmat Posted May 3, 2008 Share Posted May 3, 2008 Hate isn't a strong enough word for how I feel about the Utah Jazz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trae Posted May 3, 2008 Share Posted May 3, 2008 Rafer being out is what REALLY hurt us this game I say. Sorry to say, but I lost confidence once it was announced he won't return. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottf Posted May 3, 2008 Share Posted May 3, 2008 Hate isn't a strong enough word for how I feel about the Utah Jazz.I don't think I hate any team. The Spurs would be the closest I would come to hating a team but I respect them too much to hate them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lockmat Posted May 3, 2008 Share Posted May 3, 2008 I don't think I hate any team. The Spurs would be the closest I would come to hating a team but I respect them too much to hate them.Is it possible to respect a team and hate them at the same time? I don't know. I do know I hate Utah more than any other sports team that exists. More than the Cowboys, Spurs, Mavericks, Cardinals, Steelers, Titans, Colts or Jaguars. I loathe them, I so do.Rafer being out is what REALLY hurt us this game I say. Sorry to say, but I lost confidence once it was announced he won't return.Eh, I guess. I agree we needed Rafer, but his absence is not the reason we lost IMO. Rafer and Tracy cannot make open shots that their teammates missed, they just can't.You know who else I loathe? Anyone who blames things on Tracy. If someone does that, they don't understand sports or basketball and are merely a bandwagon fan. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PuroAztlan Posted May 3, 2008 Share Posted May 3, 2008 Is it possible to respect a team and hate them at the same time? I don't know. I do know I hate Utah more than any other sports team that exists. More than the Cowboys, Spurs, Mavericks, Cardinals, Steelers, Titans, Colts or Jaguars. I loathe them, I so do.Eh, I guess. I agree we needed Rafer, but his absence is not the reason we lost IMO. Rafer and Tracy cannot make open shots that their teammates missed, they just can't. You know who else I loathe? Anyone who blames things on Tracy. If someone does that, they don't understand sports or basketball and are merely a bandwagon fan. Or a talk radio idiot. . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedScare Posted May 3, 2008 Share Posted May 3, 2008 One more note, Championships won in the Jordan era when Jordan was playing baseball instead of basketball come with an asterisk,And championships NEVER won in any era get no asterisk.So, if Utah does not hang banners for 1st round victories, what DO they hang them for? It sure aint for championships. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sifuwong Posted May 3, 2008 Share Posted May 3, 2008 (edited) In fact, I will be in Utah later this week but please allow me to clarify something. I realize your team hasn't been out of the first round in many, many years but in case you are confused or can't remember that long ago; they don't actually give out banners for getting out of the first round. They usually put banners up for Eastern/Western Conference Champions or World Champions. I do understand your confusion given your team hasn't sniffed the second round in over a decade. One more note, Championships won in the Jordan era when Jordan was playing baseball instead of basketball come with an asterisk, quite like the Spurs Championship of the strike shortened season, and aren't really championships at all, now are they? Or is that revisionist history? Clutch City! Is that so? Just a reminder to anyone that the first 3 championships from Bulls came when they were 1-5 against the Rockets during those 3 yrs. So that means the Bulls only have 3 titles, not six...or to be kind, let's say the Bulls 6 titles come with an asterisk for the first 3. Edited May 3, 2008 by sifuwong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottf Posted May 3, 2008 Share Posted May 3, 2008 Is that so? Just a reminder to anyone that the first 3 championships from Bulls came when they were 1-5 against the Rockets during those 3 yrs. So that means the Bulls only have 3 titles, not six...or to be kind, let's say the Bulls 6 titles come with an asterisk for the first 3. ** Try to get out of the first round in the 2000's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lockmat Posted May 3, 2008 Share Posted May 3, 2008 (edited) ** Try to get out of the first round in the 2000's. Edited May 3, 2008 by lockmat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottf Posted May 3, 2008 Share Posted May 3, 2008 And championships NEVER won in any era get no asterisk.So, if Utah does not hang banners for 1st round victories, what DO they hang them for? It sure aint for championships. When are you going to school me on history on the Texans thread? Cat got ur tongue? I can't wait to hear why my history is revisionist... **Clutch City Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
20thStDad Posted May 3, 2008 Share Posted May 3, 2008 The Texans, as unglorious as they have been, beat out your lack of Utah team any day of the week. And football is king, take your little basketball victory and go high five someone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sifuwong Posted May 3, 2008 Share Posted May 3, 2008 ** Try to get out of the first round in the 2000's. Hey, it is not a big deal since Rockets would'nt have won it this year anyway or any of those years in 2000. It hurts worst when you make it to back-to-back finals and get beaten in the last few seconds of the finals... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottf Posted May 4, 2008 Share Posted May 4, 2008 The Texans, as unglorious as they have been, beat out your lack of Utah team any day of the week. And football is king, take your little basketball victory and go high five someone. I'm a seaon ticket holder to the Texans. I love the Texans. I was just referring to a post that Red Scare made on the Texans thread...I fully support the Texans and the Astros. Hey, it is not a big deal since Rockets would'nt have won it this year anyway or any of those years in 2000. It hurts worst when you make it to back-to-back finals and get beaten in the last few seconds of the finals... So true...Okay folks...Congrats to the Rockets on a great season. They will be much tougher next year. I am off to go watch the Astros at Minute Maid (hopefully, the roof will be open) and then I will be coming home to watch my Tivo Jazz/Lakers game. Ciao! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnote Posted May 5, 2008 Share Posted May 5, 2008 I'm a seaon ticket holder to the Texans. I love the Texans. I was just referring to a post that Red Scare made on the Texans thread...I fully support the Texans and the Astros. So true...Okay folks...Congrats to the Rockets on a great season. They will be much tougher next year. I am off to go watch the Astros at Minute Maid (hopefully, the roof will be open) and then I will be coming home to watch my Tivo Jazz/Lakers game. Ciao! Well your original prediction came true...you should not have modified it so many times... Congrats to Utah on a good series that they really won the first two games in Houston...now it will get really tough against the Lakers. They (Jazz) are going to have to play better than they did the last few games against Houston to win that series, but I dont think you guys are out of it if you drop the first two in LA as long as you figure out something that works defensively for you in Utah. I have heard many say Lakers in seven...I say Lakers in Six. Can't wait for Lakers-Hornets if it comes to pass...my dream scenario is Kobe getting the MVP then Chris Paul and Co. schooling LA a la Hakeem v. Robinson. and one last note...I hope you don't really believe that any Rockets Champ should come with anything close to an asterisk. Jordan didn't play in 93-94 because he was retired. There is NO precedent in sports history to say any Champ in any league gets an asterisk after the best player in an era retires. Should every series winner get an asterisk after Babe left the game...how many years after? Also, I could say that Hakeem in 93-94 may have been better than MJ that year, especially if MJ's heart wasn't in it and he was going through a lot of off the court turmoil. And what about the 94-95 Championship where Jordan played 19 regular season games and the Playoffs? They had no answer for Shaq and Penny, but Hakeem did. The Rockets were the best team in the league for two full seasons with the most dominant player in the era at the center position...no asterisk needed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottf Posted May 5, 2008 Share Posted May 5, 2008 Well your original prediction came true...you should not have modified it so many times...Congrats to Utah on a good series that they really won the first two games in Houston...now it will get really tough against the Lakers. They (Jazz) are going to have to play better than they did the last few games against Houston to win that series, but I dont think you guys are out of it if you drop the first two in LA as long as you figure out something that works defensively for you in Utah. I have heard many say Lakers in seven...I say Lakers in Six. Can't wait for Lakers-Hornets if it comes to pass...my dream scenario is Kobe getting the MVP then Chris Paul and Co. schooling LA a la Hakeem v. Robinson. and one last note...I hope you don't really believe that any Rockets Champ should come with anything close to an asterisk. Jordan didn't play in 93-94 because he was retired. There is NO precedent in sports history to say any Champ in any league gets an asterisk after the best player in an era retires. Should every series winner get an asterisk after Babe left the game...how many years after? Also, I could say that Hakeem in 93-94 may have been better than MJ that year, especially if MJ's heart wasn't in it and he was going through a lot of off the court turmoil. And what about the 94-95 Championship where Jordan played 19 regular season games and the Playoffs? They had no answer for Shaq and Penny, but Hakeem did. The Rockets were the best team in the league for two full seasons with the most dominant player in the era at the center position...no asterisk needed. Just playin' with the asterisk. Those were great Rockets teams. Redscare just brings out the worst in me and I like to taunt him. The Jazz are going to have a difficult time with the Lakers, but we'll see how it plays out. It won't help if Kobe gets to the line as many times as he did yesterday. We need to steal this next one in LA... I would love to see the Hornets knock off the Spurs. Wouldn't that be a nice, symbolic, changing of the guard? Chris Paul is amazing... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lockmat Posted June 27, 2008 Share Posted June 27, 2008 What's everyone think of our draft picks? I only know Dorsey and have never heard of the other two. I like Dorsey a lot, it's just too bad he doesn't have an offensive game.I tried going to Dave & Busters last night for the draft party that was supposed to start at 6:30. I got there a little after 6 and parking was non-existent. Apparently it's always like that b/c every parking lot in a quarter mile radius had signs posted at the entrance that it was customer parking only and all others will be towed, especially if going to D&B.I ended up going to that sports bar next door. Scott Something bar. Besides friends of the owner, my friend and I were the only people not black(the owner is white, go figure). Nice place. Good Chilli. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trae Posted June 27, 2008 Share Posted June 27, 2008 (edited) I give it a B. I'm glad we traded away Batum.Morey is a genius. Edited June 27, 2008 by Trae 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lockmat Posted June 27, 2008 Share Posted June 27, 2008 I give it a B. I'm glad we traded away Batum.Morey is a genius.I just read up on Green from a couple of nba draft websites. I think we're really gonna like this kid. I love LOVE Dorsey. He's a beast.I wonder what we'll the rest of the summer...? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lockmat Posted June 28, 2008 Share Posted June 28, 2008 Is it time for a new thread for the new season?I've seen this talked about a few times in different articles...Morley added that Greene will probably struggle to crack the veteran rotation in Houston next season.I think that's a good strategy by Morey. Usually GMs and coaches talk about them fitting in the system and getting the most out of them blah blah blah...I like this b/c it's the truth and hopefully it'll make Greene determined. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sifuwong Posted June 29, 2008 Share Posted June 29, 2008 Rockets need to get free agents and proven players now. I think the opportunity to win a title is like 3 yrs. After 3 yrs, i see Yao and T-Mac declining. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trae Posted July 30, 2008 Share Posted July 30, 2008 The Rockets now have Ron Artest. He was traded to Houston for Bobby Jackson, Donte Greene, and a first round pick. In other words, Rockets got a complete steal and robbed Sacramento. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lockmat Posted July 30, 2008 Share Posted July 30, 2008 (edited) What the heeze?!! When I saw a new post in this thread, I knew something was up. Rocket talk in July??I don't know what to think. I really like Artest, but I was starting to get excited about Greene.Wow, very mixed feelings on this one.Depending on Artests contract situation, yeah, this could be a steal.edit: Why didn't Fagen give Artests contract situation? Did I miss it? Stupid!http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports...kn/5914062.htmledit2: "For the Rockets, even the short-term of Artest's contract (with one season worth $7.4 million left before he becomes a free agent) is a good thing." Am I dumb or is that wordy? Don't answer that. Just one season and possibly two first rounders? Granted you never really know what you're getting out of a drafted player, that's a lot to give up in my eyes for one year. That is unless we win the championship.http://blogs.chron.com/nba/2008/07/ron_ron...kets_picku.html Edited July 30, 2008 by lockmat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KimberlySayWhat Posted July 30, 2008 Author Share Posted July 30, 2008 (edited) I hear his name a lot so I figure he's alright. Didn't know which team he played for, though. Edited: I guess I know why his name sounded familiar. Folks on the chron.com say this fellow is a thug. Edited July 30, 2008 by KimberlySayWhat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trae Posted July 30, 2008 Share Posted July 30, 2008 I mean, he was involved in the biggest fight in modern day American history (Brawl at the Palace 2004), but he didn't start it. He tried to stay away from it and was laying on a table when a fan through beer on him. That's when hell broke loose.He still has that fire in him, but he wants to play for Rick Adelman (Rockets coach). He had his best days under him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProHouston Posted July 30, 2008 Share Posted July 30, 2008 I mean, he was involved in the biggest fight in modern day American history (Brawl at the Palace 2004), but he didn't start it. He tried to stay away from it and was laying on a table when a fan through beer on him. That's when hell broke loose.He still has that fire in him, but he wants to play for Rick Adelman (Rockets coach). He had his best days under him.I like this deal. We all know the Rockets need a leader, someone with passion, someone aggressive. I think Artest can be that guy. Let T-Mac slide back out of the leadership role and focus on his game. Let Artest be vocal. I really like this move. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Great Hizzy! Posted July 30, 2008 Share Posted July 30, 2008 The Rockets essentially acquired Artest for a bowl of grits. I mean, Green could turn out to be a good player and the future first rounder might be a decent player, but Artest is a legit 20 point per game player who can defend and add toughness. Plus, he likes to drive to the basket, something the Rox desperately needs during crunch time.I could see if the Rockets gave up a lot but they essentially bought a bottle of Glenlivet for the cost of a 12-oz can of Coke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lockmat Posted July 30, 2008 Share Posted July 30, 2008 (edited) This worries me just a little bit. Hopefully I'm just misunderstanding it?"I'm still not the type of guy to do all the right things. That's not my culture. I was raised different, but that doesn't mean I'm not a good person. I might do different things. I might say I don't want to be a King or that my teammates aren't playing hard, but that doesn't mean I'm a bad person. I might have had the [incident] in Detroit, but that doesn't mean I'm not going to be traded."http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=3510261 Edited July 30, 2008 by lockmat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KimberlySayWhat Posted July 30, 2008 Author Share Posted July 30, 2008 I remember the brawl now after seeing it again on the news last night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fringe Posted July 31, 2008 Share Posted July 31, 2008 Hopefully Yao will be able to teach Artest some class. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trae Posted July 31, 2008 Share Posted July 31, 2008 I guess, but Artest has been clean the past few years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lockmat Posted July 31, 2008 Share Posted July 31, 2008 I wish Yao would have kept is mouth shut. There's no need to say that to the media. It didn't help anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KimberlySayWhat Posted July 31, 2008 Author Share Posted July 31, 2008 Now I'm getting excited about Artest. Usually when one of our teams makes a big acquisition, it's pretty divided and I don't know enough to know any better. Everyone's enthusiastic about this one. They better stay healthy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fringe Posted July 31, 2008 Share Posted July 31, 2008 I guess, but Artest has been clean the past few years.Artest: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KimberlySayWhat Posted July 31, 2008 Author Share Posted July 31, 2008 Didn't Rafer cut someone with a butter knife last year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wernicke Posted September 29, 2008 Share Posted September 29, 2008 Injuries to T-Mac already a concern (Houston Chronicle).The team looks good on paper, but... it also looks like Artest may be the most healthy key player on the team. Too bad our stars have such frail joints...Go Rockets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatesdisastr Posted September 30, 2008 Share Posted September 30, 2008 honestly if the rockets stay healthy then this years championship is going to be ours to lose. i dont see the celtics big three being able to break down our starting 5 and our first string players. *fingers crossed* to a healthy season! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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