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yes great news, except for the reduction in retail!

In this instance, I don't think it's a big loss. There is more than enough retail, bars, and restaurants to support the population that will be moving there. If anything, this might spur some major development to include something more ambitious in the area.

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In this instance, I don't think it's a big loss. There is more than enough retail, bars, and restaurants to support the population that will be moving there. If anything, this might spur some major development to include something more ambitious in the area.

Agreed man, that's how I felt about the downsizing of HP. I was happy that it took up quite a bit of open lots and am hoping it spurs new condos and/or rental propoerties in the numerous other open lots in that area. Only time will tell...

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I"m really happy to see this coming back from the dead. I don't think the loss of retail space is that big of a deal, small and large retailers come and go very often in the village. It's a tough retail market with the limited parking. I really hope they put some serious thought and planning into the public spaces as that can really be a draw for the walking public.

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The Village news Link is reporting a mid July ground breaking and that the project is now called "Ashton Rice Village" with 20k sq ft of retail, and will be built in three phases. They intend to use a brick similar to the ones used at Rice and will have sidewalks 10-20 feet in width to promote pedestrian access.

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The Village news Link is reporting a mid July ground breaking and that the project is now called "Ashton Rice Village" with 20k sq ft of retail, and will be built in three phases. They intend to use a brick similar to the ones used at Rice and will have sidewalks 10-20 feet in width to promote pedestrian access.

Wow. This is a complete surprise. I thought that land was going to sit vacant for at least another couple of years. The village can certainly support a bigger project, though. That place is always packed.

I found it interesting that they are also warning people about the parking as well.

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I believe there is another thread out there about this project with renderings but perhaps it'll be found and merged. As someone who enjoys and frequents Rice Village, I can't wait for this. This is one of the better pedestrian and bike accessible "activity centers" or whatever you want to call it and this is a large step in the right direction. All it would need now would be some small independent grocer.

Kirby is such a pleasant, walkable street.

I'm going with this is sarcasm. However, Kirby has almost been entirely upgraded between Braeswood and Westheimer (they're still working in the section roughly between Bissonnet and Richmond) with wider sidewalks and increased . While, it isn't avante garde urbanism, it is functional and appropriate for what kind of pedestrian environment currently exists and what can exist.

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Drove by this morning and there was a new fence around the entire site (including the old walgreens building), some bull dozers and such, and a sign saying Hanover Company construction site. I think this thing is finally getting started.

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I suppose with the obvious great view I have of the site from my office...I'll have to start contributing with construction photos :)

The precast parking garage has gone up literally in the past week, it appears that there's 1 or 2 levels underground, and I think the wall components are up to the 7th or 8th level of the garage.

Work on the building has been going on for the past two months, columns have gone in on the 1st floor and they started pouring concrete today for the 2nd floor.

Our view of the Upper Kirby district has pretty much been blocked now, but I'm definitely looking forward to the new restaurants/retail!

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Rode my bike to Rice Village and took some shots of the progress...

Ashton Rice Village updates:

photos by me

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Entrance by dv1033, on Flickr

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Entrance2 by dv1033, on Flickr

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IMAG0390 by dv1033, on Flickr

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IMAG0391 by dv1033, on Flickr

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IMAG0392 by dv1033, on Flickr

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IMAG0394 by dv1033, on Flickr

There's a sizable courtyard area:

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InsidetheCourtyard by dv1033, on Flickr

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Courtyard by dv1033, on Flickr

This is definitely going to be a great addition to this area.

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Well, I'm still pretty young. But I'd be surprised if Kirby has many single-story retail left within 10-15 years.

Lets be realistic. Developers can't do very much at all with less than an acre or two. There aren't many such parcels in Rice Village.

It's be great if there were some sort of algorithm to assemble parcels based upon common ownership or high-turnover parcels or parcels owned by elderly people or entities controlled by elderly people (hint, hint, to any aspiring real estate consultants with a software engineering background), but from the looks of it, the circumstances are bleak.

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Haha, well, I may be exaggerating just a little bit about my expectations for Kirby. But it's plain as day to anyone that it's one of the main areas of redevelopment in the city.

Anyway, I am going to take some time off from HAIF. It keeps getting in the way of some real work I need to finish. I'll be back soon.

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They had a rendering before their BLVD Place rendering was linked. I should have grabbed it, darn. Oh well, I think the reason why I didn't is because it looked so much like the one in Rice Village.

Anyway, I doubt we'll hear anything on this for a while, but I'll go ahead and get the thread started. What do yall think of the location? I don't think most will think this is big news. It's replacing existing apartments and not it's not the most interesting location.

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It's a great location for an apt. complex.

For one I would love to live across the street from Marquis II... that way after my night is ruined from a Texas tea or 2 I am in little to no danger.

While it doesn't do much for the urban "feel" of the area, it is probably one of few large plots of land available in the area.

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OMG OMG OMG... this is on Bissonnet.. That road is totally unsuitable for any sort of multi-family development. Somebody call the Ashby Nazis.

Yeah, there are a ton of similarities between the two locations other than the following;

Bissonnet has four lanes and dedicated turning lanes at this location compared to just two lanes near Ashby.

The Ashby "nazis" aren't anti-aparment. In fact, they've been living next to apartments for decades.

The area where this Hanover project is, would be an EXCELLENT place for a highrise, with Bissonnet and Kirby being wide boulevards and there'd be easy freeway access to the east and west.

The Hanover proposal is for a midrise in the middle of a commercial area whereas the Ashby proposal is for a skyscraper in the middle of two of the most historic and deed restricted neighborhoods in Houston.

But, if making snide comments that aren't grounded in any sort of truth is your thing, have at it...

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The Hanover proposal is for a midrise in the middle of a commercial area whereas the Ashby proposal is for a skyscraper in the middle of two of the most historic and deed restricted neighborhoods in Houston.

How can the Ashby site be 'in the middle of two neighborhoods' at the same time? I don't think geometry works that way.

Nope. It's on a boundary between multiple neighborhoods, on unrestricted land with a non-conforming use along a major thoroughfare that has numerous other parcels with non-conforming uses.

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Wait, did someone just call Ashby high rise a skyscraper?

Aren't skyscrapers usually over 500-600 feet at least? LOL

According to Wikipedia:

A relatively small building may be considered a skyscraper if it protrudes well above its built environment and changes the overall skyline.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skyscraper

But perhaps high-rise is more appropriate in this case.

In any case, if this POS was being built next to my house I'd probably refer to it as a skyscraper too. Or maybe even a supertall.

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According to Wikipedia:

A relatively small building may be considered a skyscraper if it protrudes well above its built environment and changes the overall skyline.

http://en.wikipedia....wiki/Skyscraper

But perhaps high-rise is more appropriate in this case.

In any case, if this POS was being built next to my house I'd probably refer to it as a skyscraper too. Or maybe even a supertall.

Very strange definition. There are skyscrapers downtown, but I guess they aren't considered skyscrapers since they aren't "well above their built environment."

None the less, Ashby is a big improvement over those POS apartments.

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He left out much of the context of that "definition". In fact, that was not a definition at all, but an example explaining the lack of a concise definition.

But, since MikeHouston wishes to infer that Ashby is a skyscraper, I propose we rename it 'Burj Ashby' in his honor.

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Drove by today, and I must say that this is an absolute game changer for Houston, plus it compliments West Ave further down Kirby. I was in absolute awe, and trust me when I say, the more these dense mixed use developments get built, the better for Houston. They add so much to an area its unbelievable. With the addition of BLVD Place, Regent Square, and River Oaks District, Houston is going to be a home run urban city with nice organic infill like Rice Village.

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WOW! Its much bigger than I thought! I will bet that many of the long time retailers in Rice Village will move in to this development. I wouldn't be supprised if much of Rice Village isn't demolished infavor of more urban development like this.

All depends on if the rent is competitive. By the way, much of Rice Village has already been demolished over the last 20 years. For better or worse, I'll let you decide.

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Drove by today, and I must say that this is an absolute game changer for Houston, plus it compliments West Ave further down Kirby. I was in absolute awe, and trust me when I say, the more these dense mixed use developments get built, the better for Houston. They add so much to an area its unbelievable. With the addition of BLVD Place, Regent Square, and River Oaks District, Houston is going to be a home run urban city with nice organic infill like Rice Village.

Yes, the development of the inner Houston/Loop and projects like these are catching many people's attention. I spoke to someone that works for Archstone here in LA who stated that they will be developing 2 projects in the loop area and will keep this in their area of focus.

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