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The Shops At Arrive: Retail And Residential Complex In Upper Kirby


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I'm reading a lot here about West Ave's next Phase of expansion (even before Phase 1 is even complete, lol). Mostly about how the property could expand across Westheimer, from where Chuy's is, down to where Buffalo Hardware is potentially.

I've heard different.

I heard from a contractor whom said his company was doing the roofing on West Ave., that it'll expand in the opposite direction, where Beck's Prime is, going south all the way up to West Alabama.

Again, just something I heard, nothing definite or concrete... any truth to this?

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I'm reading a lot here about West Ave's next Phase of expansion (even before Phase 1 is even complete, lol). Mostly about how the property could expand across Westheimer, from where Chuy's is, down to where Buffalo Hardware is potentially.

I've heard different.

I heard from a contractor whom said his company was doing the roofing on West Ave., that it'll expand in the opposite direction, where Beck's Prime is, going south all the way up to West Alabama.

Again, just something I heard, nothing definite or concrete... any truth to this?

I have no idea but that would be awesome.

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I can confirm after speaking with the leasing agent that Phase II will replace Beck's Prime all the way towards Alabama.
earlier in the thread it mentions that several businesses are already closed and a few others will be closed in the near future in preparation for the expansion.

Glad to know my source was speaking the truth. I browsed this thread pretty thoroughly, but must have missed the posts about businesses already closing in preparation. Wow Kirby is going to be unrecognizable from what it was... frankly it already is with this first Phase, and 2727. I live in close proximity to these two projects and have watched them rise from re-bar and fresh concrete out of the ground.

I'll try to take some pictures of these buildings soon at their current stages and post....

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Everyone likes pictures! Took these this morning on a little walk around the block. The first and part of the 3rd shot is building 3, which has been just bare concrete structure to this point, its finally getting some framing going up and hopefully soon we'll see it take shape. The last shot is the actual West Ave (the street going down between buildings 1 and 2), you can see the skywalks starting to be encased in glass

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Maybe Chuy's will move into West Ave. I'll miss Chuy's if it's gone... :(

It's for the best. That spot was way too crowded and minimal parking. They may be the ones more than happy to leave. I bet they have a super loyal clientel that will follow them anywhere in town. :D

Gottaget recent pics of this area.

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It's for the best. That spot was way too crowded and minimal parking. They may be the ones more than happy to leave. I bet they have a super loyal clientel that will follow them anywhere in town. :D

Gottaget recent pics of this area.

I am a loyal Chuy's customer, have eaten there for 15 years, and eat there a couple times a month. I wouldn't follow them further out of the loop than Buffalo Speedway. Weird, huh?

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I am a loyal Chuy's customer, have eaten there for 15 years, and eat there a couple times a month. I wouldn't follow them further out of the loop than Buffalo Speedway. Weird, huh?

also going there since they opened (1992 i think?) and go there about 2 times a WEEK or more...

not sure how far i would or wouldnt follow them, i just hope they stay within a 2 mile radius

;)

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This is starting to turn into a Chuy's thread :lol:

I'm not quite sure the fate of the land Chuy's sits on... but here's what I know:

1. West Ave Phase II will likely continue southward, towards West Alabama...

2. Lets say a Phase III could be in the developers heads, but we haven't even seen Phase I open yet for residents or retailers to see how well business goes. After Phase II is constructed that may be it.

3. Chuy's, including its parking lot is a drop in the bucket in size compared to West Ave. in its entirety. Building III by itself is a hair bigger than that etire plot of land. If West Ave. acquires it, what would they use it for? Only thing I can think of is additional parking? Could it really be used for another, slightly smaller building, or perhaps if they took over the shopping center where Buffalo Hardware is for a larger building? Ideas?

Finally, I phrase this as more of a question than a statement... but there is plenty of space on the backside of West Ave. to do something with, west of the parking garage (the spot that used to be all the tennis courts). So far all I see are trailers and construction equipment. What is this abundant space going to be used for after Phase I is completed?

And here's a good reference for any project: Google Maps: Greater Houston Area Projects and Construction

The Satellite view on West Ave. is super old as of the day I post this, but its a good reference as far as size.

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And here's a good reference for any project: Google Maps: Greater Houston Area Projects and Construction

The Satellite view on West Ave. is super old as of the day I post this, but its a good reference as far as size.

maps.live.com has apparently updated some bird's eye shots since the last time I checked - gives a good perspective on just how large the West Ave development is:

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What's strange is if you move around too much, suddenly the older images appear again

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What's strange is if you move around too much, suddenly the older images appear again

Thanks for that link... I already have and will be playing with the bird's eye view for hours now.

Yea, I noticed that, they haven't updated some of the view angles on some of the views, so that's why it changes back to the old when you're rotating the view. I guess most would consider this a flaw, but in this case its a feature! Lets you really see how Kirby from Alabama to Westheimer has changed in just a few years, and even the new images are kinda old now (2727 was still approaching the 20th floor being constructed in these).

Off-topic, but with them being able to capture these images from so many different angles, the next version of Flight Simulator better be nothing short of immaculately detailed. :P

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3. Chuy's, including its parking lot is a drop in the bucket in size compared to West Ave. in its entirety. Building III by itself is a hair bigger than that etire plot of land. If West Ave. acquires it, what would they use it for? Only thing I can think of is additional parking? Could it really be used for another, slightly smaller building, or perhaps if they took over the shopping center where Buffalo Hardware is for a larger building? Ideas?

Finally, I phrase this as more of a question than a statement... but there is plenty of space on the backside of West Ave. to do something with, west of the parking garage (the spot that used to be all the tennis courts). So far all I see are trailers and construction equipment. What is this abundant space going to be used for after Phase I is completed?

FWIW, the rumblings I heard regarding Chuy's involved the Buffalo Hardware center as well as the center to the west with Rickshaw. Those parcels together are a sizable, if oddly shaped, chunk.

I don't know the plan for the old tennis court section but I thought there was an earlier rendering with stuff on that. That whole area is changing so rapidly it is amazing. I think the building housing Avalon Diner and Westheimer Plumbing is toast too. Exciting to see if you ask me, though it is sad to see some stalwart businesses fall by the wayside.

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Thanks for the pics.

This place looks awesome so far. No qualifications...

It just bothers me that this looks WAY better than the Houston Pavilions, yet it does not get the recognition it deserves.

Here's one (can't find anything else):

http://www.urbanpartners.com/westave.html

the music in the video is a complete cheese fest! Stupid generic techno music.

They don't need to try that hard.

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It just bothers me that this looks WAY better than the Houston Pavilions, yet it does not get the recognition it deserves.

I second that. But I believe it will. HP and West Ave. have their differences, visually West Ave. wins hands down IMO...

I watched the rendering animation again (muted btw, simple as that :lol: ), the finished product is looking better than the renderings. Again back to the palm trees... West Ave. doesn't strike me as a tropical resort, nor a venue out of Southern California (those are the feelings palms give me at least). I'd like to see them choose something that can work in all seasons, as well as be Decked out in lights during the holidays (similar to Highland Village, but just not with Palms).

And something I noticed at the end of the animation on the Urban Partners West Ave. website I hadn't noticed before:

"Grand Opening for Phase I, February 1 09."

"Phase II opening in 1st Quarter 2010"

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I second that. But I believe it will. HP and West Ave. have their differences, visually West Ave. wins hands down IMO...

I watched the rendering animation again (muted btw, simple as that :lol: ), the finished product is looking better than the renderings. Again back to the palm trees... West Ave. doesn't strike me as a tropical resort, nor a venue out of Southern California (those are the feelings palms give me at least). I'd like to see them choose something that can work in all seasons, as well as be Decked out in lights during the holidays (similar to Highland Village, but just not with Palms).

Glad to hear another person share my dislike of palm trees in Houston. They should have went with some oaks trees, Houston style.

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And something I noticed at the end of the animation on the Urban Partners West Ave. website I hadn't noticed before:

"Grand Opening for Phase I, February 1 09."

"Phase II opening in 1st Quarter 2010"

Isn't that the first confirmation fof plans to build Phase II immediately after Phase I?

I know there has been a lot of talk about Phase II around here, but I hadn't heard anything concrete on the plans.

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Isn't that the first confirmation fof plans to build Phase II immediately after Phase I?

I know there has been a lot of talk about Phase II around here, but I hadn't heard anything concrete on the plans.

I have heard that slow retail leasing and a difficult financing environment will likely result in delays on the start of Phase Two. I think that they'd like to fill up and stabilize Phase One first.

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Palm trees are so california wannabe. Houston should stick with oak trees.

Aren't palm trees native to the Gulf coast? If so, how does that make them California wannabe trees? Are the palms in Orlando or Tel Aviv or other cities with tropical climates California wannabes as well?

I don't think sticking with just oak trees is particularly authentic. I do like the live oaks when they are old and gnarly though. Palms are nice too, but I agree that they don't provide a lot of shade unless you have a whole grove of them.

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Aren't palm trees native to the Gulf coast? If so, how does that make them California wannabe trees? Are the palms in Orlando or Tel Aviv or other cities with tropical climates California wannabes as well?

I don't think sticking with just oak trees is particularly authentic. I do like the live oaks when they are old and gnarly though. Palms are nice too, but I agree that they don't provide a lot of shade unless you have a whole grove of them.

Palms aren't native to Southern California. LA was simply trying to give their city a tropical feel.

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/11/26/us/26palm.html

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As far as I know, the only palm trees native to this region are Saw Palmettos, which don't get very tall.

Still, palm trees can be used properly here, as long as they are well maintained. A BAD example of this are the plantings along the Gulf Freeway.

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  • 4 weeks later...

When Kirby is done and all the new trees are re-planted on the outside and the new median, Kirby Dr. in this stretch will be quite beautiful.

Remember, Main St along the side of Memorial park at one time only had saplings. Now it has majestic oaks. Kirby too will have an awesome treescape.

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When Kirby is done and all the new trees are re-planted on the outside and the new median, Kirby Dr. in this stretch will be quite beautiful.

Remember, Main St along the side of Memorial park at one time only had saplings. Now it has majestic oaks. Kirby too will have an awesome treescape.

Kirby will indeed be beautiful in 100 years.

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Kirby will indeed be beautiful in 100 years.

BAHAHAHA!!! Nice one. Maybe they can cut it down to 50 with some miracle grow.

I'm sure this intersection will look nice, I'm hoping for it. However the trees just wont look all there initially, but the layout should be nice... the main thing I'm excited about is West Ave. and 2727 Kirby themselves.

Seems like both projects have slowed down. I'm sure much of the work has moved inside tho... West Ave. building 3 is taking a while to get enclosed, but despite that I still see progress everyday. Just seems not to be going as fast as it was... or is it just me? And the "fin" and mechanical area atop 2727 is taking some time to get done...

I read that much of the street construction was going to be on hold during the holidays to relieve traffic congestion, and that it would all resume in January. Possible this scheduled slowdown is also factored into the buildings themselves.

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