Geoff8201 Posted October 26, 2008 Share Posted October 26, 2008 I'm reading a lot here about West Ave's next Phase of expansion (even before Phase 1 is even complete, lol). Mostly about how the property could expand across Westheimer, from where Chuy's is, down to where Buffalo Hardware is potentially.I've heard different.I heard from a contractor whom said his company was doing the roofing on West Ave., that it'll expand in the opposite direction, where Beck's Prime is, going south all the way up to West Alabama.Again, just something I heard, nothing definite or concrete... any truth to this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roadrunner Posted October 27, 2008 Share Posted October 27, 2008 I'm reading a lot here about West Ave's next Phase of expansion (even before Phase 1 is even complete, lol). Mostly about how the property could expand across Westheimer, from where Chuy's is, down to where Buffalo Hardware is potentially.I've heard different.I heard from a contractor whom said his company was doing the roofing on West Ave., that it'll expand in the opposite direction, where Beck's Prime is, going south all the way up to West Alabama.Again, just something I heard, nothing definite or concrete... any truth to this?I have no idea but that would be awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mls1202 Posted October 27, 2008 Share Posted October 27, 2008 I have no idea but that would be awesome.I can confirm after speaking with the leasing agent that Phase II will replace Beck's Prime all the way towards Alabama. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musicman Posted October 27, 2008 Share Posted October 27, 2008 Again, just something I heard, nothing definite or concrete... any truth to this?earlier in the thread it mentions that several businesses are already closed and a few others will be closed in the near future in preparation for the expansion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff8201 Posted October 27, 2008 Share Posted October 27, 2008 I can confirm after speaking with the leasing agent that Phase II will replace Beck's Prime all the way towards Alabama.earlier in the thread it mentions that several businesses are already closed and a few others will be closed in the near future in preparation for the expansion.Glad to know my source was speaking the truth. I browsed this thread pretty thoroughly, but must have missed the posts about businesses already closing in preparation. Wow Kirby is going to be unrecognizable from what it was... frankly it already is with this first Phase, and 2727. I live in close proximity to these two projects and have watched them rise from re-bar and fresh concrete out of the ground.I'll try to take some pictures of these buildings soon at their current stages and post.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatesdisastr Posted October 27, 2008 Share Posted October 27, 2008 i really want to try and get down there sometime this week and see. ive been wanting to, just haven't had the time to Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff8201 Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 (edited) Everyone likes pictures! Took these this morning on a little walk around the block. The first and part of the 3rd shot is building 3, which has been just bare concrete structure to this point, its finally getting some framing going up and hopefully soon we'll see it take shape. The last shot is the actual West Ave (the street going down between buildings 1 and 2), you can see the skywalks starting to be encased in glass Edited November 2, 2008 by Geoff8201 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uhlaw09 Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 Thanks for the pics.This place looks awesome so far. No qualifications... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatesdisastr Posted November 3, 2008 Share Posted November 3, 2008 awesome pictures thanks as well i cant wait to see this place active. its going to be great! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkjones98 Posted November 7, 2008 Share Posted November 7, 2008 I seem to remember this thread discussing that Chuy's lease was set to expire and the owner was not renewing---presumably in favor of the West Ave developers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jax Posted November 7, 2008 Share Posted November 7, 2008 Maybe Chuy's will move into West Ave. I'll miss Chuy's if it's gone... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vertigo58 Posted November 7, 2008 Share Posted November 7, 2008 Maybe Chuy's will move into West Ave. I'll miss Chuy's if it's gone... It's for the best. That spot was way too crowded and minimal parking. They may be the ones more than happy to leave. I bet they have a super loyal clientel that will follow them anywhere in town. Gottaget recent pics of this area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gene Posted November 7, 2008 Share Posted November 7, 2008 definitely love chuys...it will be interesting to see what happens...i had no idea they were thinking of relocating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capnmcbarnacle Posted November 8, 2008 Share Posted November 8, 2008 It's for the best. That spot was way too crowded and minimal parking. They may be the ones more than happy to leave. I bet they have a super loyal clientel that will follow them anywhere in town. Gottaget recent pics of this area. I am a loyal Chuy's customer, have eaten there for 15 years, and eat there a couple times a month. I wouldn't follow them further out of the loop than Buffalo Speedway. Weird, huh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatesdisastr Posted November 8, 2008 Share Posted November 8, 2008 I seem to remember this thread discussing that Chuy's lease was set to expire and the owner was not renewing---presumably in favor of the West Ave developers.I have a friend who works at that chuy's ill try to see if she can find out anything about chuy's future for yall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gene Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 I am a loyal Chuy's customer, have eaten there for 15 years, and eat there a couple times a month. I wouldn't follow them further out of the loop than Buffalo Speedway. Weird, huh? also going there since they opened (1992 i think?) and go there about 2 times a WEEK or more... not sure how far i would or wouldnt follow them, i just hope they stay within a 2 mile radius Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff8201 Posted November 11, 2008 Share Posted November 11, 2008 This is starting to turn into a Chuy's thread I'm not quite sure the fate of the land Chuy's sits on... but here's what I know: 1. West Ave Phase II will likely continue southward, towards West Alabama... 2. Lets say a Phase III could be in the developers heads, but we haven't even seen Phase I open yet for residents or retailers to see how well business goes. After Phase II is constructed that may be it. 3. Chuy's, including its parking lot is a drop in the bucket in size compared to West Ave. in its entirety. Building III by itself is a hair bigger than that etire plot of land. If West Ave. acquires it, what would they use it for? Only thing I can think of is additional parking? Could it really be used for another, slightly smaller building, or perhaps if they took over the shopping center where Buffalo Hardware is for a larger building? Ideas? Finally, I phrase this as more of a question than a statement... but there is plenty of space on the backside of West Ave. to do something with, west of the parking garage (the spot that used to be all the tennis courts). So far all I see are trailers and construction equipment. What is this abundant space going to be used for after Phase I is completed? And here's a good reference for any project: Google Maps: Greater Houston Area Projects and Construction The Satellite view on West Ave. is super old as of the day I post this, but its a good reference as far as size. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OkieEric Posted November 11, 2008 Share Posted November 11, 2008 And here's a good reference for any project: Google Maps: Greater Houston Area Projects and ConstructionThe Satellite view on West Ave. is super old as of the day I post this, but its a good reference as far as size.maps.live.com has apparently updated some bird's eye shots since the last time I checked - gives a good perspective on just how large the West Ave development is:LinkWhat's strange is if you move around too much, suddenly the older images appear again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff8201 Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 What's strange is if you move around too much, suddenly the older images appear again Thanks for that link... I already have and will be playing with the bird's eye view for hours now. Yea, I noticed that, they haven't updated some of the view angles on some of the views, so that's why it changes back to the old when you're rotating the view. I guess most would consider this a flaw, but in this case its a feature! Lets you really see how Kirby from Alabama to Westheimer has changed in just a few years, and even the new images are kinda old now (2727 was still approaching the 20th floor being constructed in these). Off-topic, but with them being able to capture these images from so many different angles, the next version of Flight Simulator better be nothing short of immaculately detailed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capnmcbarnacle Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 3. Chuy's, including its parking lot is a drop in the bucket in size compared to West Ave. in its entirety. Building III by itself is a hair bigger than that etire plot of land. If West Ave. acquires it, what would they use it for? Only thing I can think of is additional parking? Could it really be used for another, slightly smaller building, or perhaps if they took over the shopping center where Buffalo Hardware is for a larger building? Ideas?Finally, I phrase this as more of a question than a statement... but there is plenty of space on the backside of West Ave. to do something with, west of the parking garage (the spot that used to be all the tennis courts). So far all I see are trailers and construction equipment. What is this abundant space going to be used for after Phase I is completed?FWIW, the rumblings I heard regarding Chuy's involved the Buffalo Hardware center as well as the center to the west with Rickshaw. Those parcels together are a sizable, if oddly shaped, chunk.I don't know the plan for the old tennis court section but I thought there was an earlier rendering with stuff on that. That whole area is changing so rapidly it is amazing. I think the building housing Avalon Diner and Westheimer Plumbing is toast too. Exciting to see if you ask me, though it is sad to see some stalwart businesses fall by the wayside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shasta Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 Does this project have an official website? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sevfiv Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 Here's one (can't find anything else):http://www.urbanpartners.com/westave.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pumapayam Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 Thanks for the pics.This place looks awesome so far. No qualifications...It just bothers me that this looks WAY better than the Houston Pavilions, yet it does not get the recognition it deserves.Here's one (can't find anything else):http://www.urbanpartners.com/westave.htmlthe music in the video is a complete cheese fest! Stupid generic techno music.They don't need to try that hard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff8201 Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 It just bothers me that this looks WAY better than the Houston Pavilions, yet it does not get the recognition it deserves. I second that. But I believe it will. HP and West Ave. have their differences, visually West Ave. wins hands down IMO... I watched the rendering animation again (muted btw, simple as that ), the finished product is looking better than the renderings. Again back to the palm trees... West Ave. doesn't strike me as a tropical resort, nor a venue out of Southern California (those are the feelings palms give me at least). I'd like to see them choose something that can work in all seasons, as well as be Decked out in lights during the holidays (similar to Highland Village, but just not with Palms). And something I noticed at the end of the animation on the Urban Partners West Ave. website I hadn't noticed before: "Grand Opening for Phase I, February 1 09." "Phase II opening in 1st Quarter 2010" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lockmat Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 Does this project have an official website?check the wiki. the link is there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmoneybangbang Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 I second that. But I believe it will. HP and West Ave. have their differences, visually West Ave. wins hands down IMO...I watched the rendering animation again (muted btw, simple as that ), the finished product is looking better than the renderings. Again back to the palm trees... West Ave. doesn't strike me as a tropical resort, nor a venue out of Southern California (those are the feelings palms give me at least). I'd like to see them choose something that can work in all seasons, as well as be Decked out in lights during the holidays (similar to Highland Village, but just not with Palms). Glad to hear another person share my dislike of palm trees in Houston. They should have went with some oaks trees, Houston style. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HtownWxBoy Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 Glad to hear another person share my dislike of palm trees in Houston. They should have went with some oaks trees, Houston style. I LOVE palm trees!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uhlaw09 Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 And something I noticed at the end of the animation on the Urban Partners West Ave. website I hadn't noticed before:"Grand Opening for Phase I, February 1 09.""Phase II opening in 1st Quarter 2010"Isn't that the first confirmation fof plans to build Phase II immediately after Phase I? I know there has been a lot of talk about Phase II around here, but I hadn't heard anything concrete on the plans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houston19514 Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 I LOVE palm trees!!! Another vote for palm trees! LOVE 'em Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fewellman Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 I agree Palm trees are awesome! how can u not like them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJVilla Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 I agree Palm trees are awesome! how can u not like them? +1. They make sense in a coastal area and fare better in tropical-realted storms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swtsig Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 I agree Palm trees are awesome! how can u not like them?because they're not native to the area? just a hunch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crunchtastic Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 I agree Palm trees are awesome! how can u not like them?i think palm trees r awesome 2. At the coast.They are not awesome in Houston's climate, plunked down in the middle of a steamy concrete outdoor pedestrian area. There, I'd like some shade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNiche Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 Isn't that the first confirmation fof plans to build Phase II immediately after Phase I? I know there has been a lot of talk about Phase II around here, but I hadn't heard anything concrete on the plans.I have heard that slow retail leasing and a difficult financing environment will likely result in delays on the start of Phase Two. I think that they'd like to fill up and stabilize Phase One first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musicman Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 They are not awesome in Houston's climate, plunked down in the middle of a steamy concrete outdoor pedestrian area. There, I'd like some shade.very pedestrian unfriendly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lockmat Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 From an urban partners newsletter:First Phase of West Ave Opening Soon A walkable urban village is taking shape at the intersection of Houston Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jc281 Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 traffic around this intersection is unbelievable right now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tertiary77u Posted November 15, 2008 Share Posted November 15, 2008 Palm trees....in Houston...Um...no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jax Posted November 15, 2008 Share Posted November 15, 2008 I like palm trees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sowanome Posted November 15, 2008 Share Posted November 15, 2008 I love palm trees, esp queen plams... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texas911 Posted November 15, 2008 Share Posted November 15, 2008 (edited) Palm trees are so california wannabe. Houston should stick with oak trees. Edited November 15, 2008 by texas911 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jax Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 (edited) Palm trees are so california wannabe. Houston should stick with oak trees.Aren't palm trees native to the Gulf coast? If so, how does that make them California wannabe trees? Are the palms in Orlando or Tel Aviv or other cities with tropical climates California wannabes as well?I don't think sticking with just oak trees is particularly authentic. I do like the live oaks when they are old and gnarly though. Palms are nice too, but I agree that they don't provide a lot of shade unless you have a whole grove of them. Edited November 16, 2008 by Jax Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capnmcbarnacle Posted November 17, 2008 Share Posted November 17, 2008 Aren't palm trees native to the Gulf coast? If so, how does that make them California wannabe trees? Are the palms in Orlando or Tel Aviv or other cities with tropical climates California wannabes as well?I don't think sticking with just oak trees is particularly authentic. I do like the live oaks when they are old and gnarly though. Palms are nice too, but I agree that they don't provide a lot of shade unless you have a whole grove of them.Palms aren't native to Southern California. LA was simply trying to give their city a tropical feel.http://www.nytimes.com/2006/11/26/us/26palm.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UrbaNerd Posted November 17, 2008 Share Posted November 17, 2008 As far as I know, the only palm trees native to this region are Saw Palmettos, which don't get very tall.Still, palm trees can be used properly here, as long as they are well maintained. A BAD example of this are the plantings along the Gulf Freeway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UrbaNerd Posted December 13, 2008 Share Posted December 13, 2008 Houston Calling... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lockmat Posted December 13, 2008 Share Posted December 13, 2008 (edited) Houston Calling... Nice pic, thanks. It looks like they're starting to add more details to the facade, and it's looking very nice, improving the entire thing. Edited December 13, 2008 by lockmat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kjb434 Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 When Kirby is done and all the new trees are re-planted on the outside and the new median, Kirby Dr. in this stretch will be quite beautiful.Remember, Main St along the side of Memorial park at one time only had saplings. Now it has majestic oaks. Kirby too will have an awesome treescape. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jax Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 You mean Hermann Park? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barracuda Posted December 18, 2008 Share Posted December 18, 2008 When Kirby is done and all the new trees are re-planted on the outside and the new median, Kirby Dr. in this stretch will be quite beautiful.Remember, Main St along the side of Memorial park at one time only had saplings. Now it has majestic oaks. Kirby too will have an awesome treescape.Kirby will indeed be beautiful in 100 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff8201 Posted December 18, 2008 Share Posted December 18, 2008 Kirby will indeed be beautiful in 100 years.BAHAHAHA!!! Nice one. Maybe they can cut it down to 50 with some miracle grow.I'm sure this intersection will look nice, I'm hoping for it. However the trees just wont look all there initially, but the layout should be nice... the main thing I'm excited about is West Ave. and 2727 Kirby themselves.Seems like both projects have slowed down. I'm sure much of the work has moved inside tho... West Ave. building 3 is taking a while to get enclosed, but despite that I still see progress everyday. Just seems not to be going as fast as it was... or is it just me? And the "fin" and mechanical area atop 2727 is taking some time to get done...I read that much of the street construction was going to be on hold during the holidays to relieve traffic congestion, and that it would all resume in January. Possible this scheduled slowdown is also factored into the buildings themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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