Amlaham Posted February 7, 2022 Share Posted February 7, 2022 Wow this is an expensive project for a restaurant/ lounge. It looks like the place is going to be NICE 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Amlaham Posted June 9, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted June 9, 2022 Looks like this one is wrapping up! 14 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfastx Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 Not bad at all! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hindesky Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 (edited) "Park House, a private members-only club based in Dallas, is opening a second location in Houston next year. The concept will go into 4411 San Felipe, a new office building and retail space adjacent to River Oaks District." https://www.houstonchronicle.com/lifestyle/article/Park-House-a-members-only-club-based-in-Dallas-17343315.php https://www.parkhousehouston.com Edited August 1, 2022 by hindesky 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
004n063 Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 Gross. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kennyc05 Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 Members only? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hindesky Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 Dallas Park House web site..... https://www.parkhousedallas.com 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmitch94 Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 So it’s a country club without the country basically, a private restaurant? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gene Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 I guess so...but lord the reviews on yelp for the Dallas location are something else... 😦 haha 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houston19514 Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 Seems very "Dallasy" I wonder if it will work here... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toxtethogrady Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 I was a member of a private club in Dallas back in the 1980s. Got to witness a rather heated dinner conversation one evening between a husband and wife about who was being unfaithful to whom... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skyboxdweller Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 (edited) My experience with private dining rooms in NY and Florida is that when well run the service is more courteous and deferential than what one gets in a restaurant, even if one is a regular customer ; the food is OK, but nothing special and the members like it that way. Like Trump and his taco bowl, they tend to order one or two things and will let their guests know that it is the best thing on the menu. These settings used to work well for business entertaining because the guest can't pick up the check. For someone who isn't going to have their business pick up the initiation fees, monthly dues and the monthly required expenditures for food and beverages, they make no sense. Edited August 4, 2022 by Skyboxdweller Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texasota Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 It's unfortunate, but this is probably the best neighborhood for this kind of nonsense. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IntheKnowHouston Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 Papercity reports Ciel, the ground floor restaurant and lounge at 4411 San Felipe, opens in December. Here are several nuggets from yesterday's article: "Co-owner Adel Sadek tapped his own architectural and design firm, Studio Five, to conjure a glamorous St. Tropez vibe for the 8,000-square-foot space." "There’s a decidedly celestial aesthetic...High above diners’ heads is a faux sky adrift with fluffy clouds, with orb-shaped lights reflected against a mirrored ceiling to represent the planets in the night sky. French contemporary artist Philippe Shangti...was commissioned to create a trio of 12-foot paintings of bare women for the dining room, while a six-foot sculpture of Zeus — God of the sky, naturally — is splashed with hand-painted tattoos care of Mexican artist Karla de Lara." https://www.papercitymag.com/restaurants/ciel-restaurant-houston-opening-4411-san-felipe-building-adel-sadek/ Renders included in the article 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
004n063 Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 Wow! That might be the most appalling thing I've ever seen on here, and that's saying something... 3 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purdueenginerd Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 Dialing gaudy up to 11. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gene Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 i don't mind it toooooooooo much but the art work/photographs on that wall are horrendous so hopefully they have something better planned. they need a statue of Mr Clean and that will look like his soap suds/bubbles all swirling around...heck, they could have even painted the floor to look like a toilet bowl!!!! 🤪 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skyboxdweller Posted November 27, 2022 Share Posted November 27, 2022 It's nice being located next to the Target. You can pick up your head ache medicine before buying an expensive bottle of champagne at le club and getting dizzy breathing in fumes from the hopped up euro-trash sports cars rumbling at a low roar while you wait for the valet attendants to bring your Tesla around. The Rainbow Room on the top of 30 Rock its not. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IntheKnowHouston Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 On 11/22/2022 at 6:10 AM, 004n063 said: Wow! That might be the most appalling thing I've ever seen on here, and that's saying something... I'm reserving judgement until I see the finished space. Sometimes renderings provide an awful depiction of a building or space. After construction is completed, the space or building turns out better than the rendering. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IntheKnowHouston Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 Exterior photo of Ciel posted a few days ago in BuiltNearby's Instagram story. Ciel is the ground floor restaurant and lounge at 4411 San Felipe, Suite 100. The estimated opening is next week. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IntheKnowHouston Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 On 11/22/2022 at 5:12 AM, IntheKnowHouston said: Papercity reports Ciel, the ground floor restaurant and lounge at 4411 San Felipe, opens in December. Here are several nuggets from yesterday's article: "Co-owner Adel Sadek tapped his own architectural and design firm, Studio Five, to conjure a glamorous St. Tropez vibe for the 8,000-square-foot space." "There’s a decidedly celestial aesthetic...High above diners’ heads is a faux sky adrift with fluffy clouds, with orb-shaped lights reflected against a mirrored ceiling to represent the planets in the night sky. French contemporary artist Philippe Shangti...was commissioned to create a trio of 12-foot paintings of bare women for the dining room, while a six-foot sculpture of Zeus — God of the sky, naturally — is splashed with hand-painted tattoos care of Mexican artist Karla de Lara." https://www.papercitymag.com/restaurants/ciel-restaurant-houston-opening-4411-san-felipe-building-adel-sadek/ Renders included in the article Ciel hosted a family and friends event over the weekend. This is the ground floor restaurant and lounge at 4411 San Felipe, Suite 100. Below are a few screenshots from the preveiw shared in Instagram and Tik Tok videos. And a brief walk-thru Tik Tok video of the first floor: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thatguysly Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 RD and his daughter have taste that is 100% opposite of whatever I would ever want. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gene Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 what a freaking disaster!!!!!! 😦😦😝 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kennyc05 Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 Yeah I'll stick with just going to Bisou here and there. 😐 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amlaham Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 It looks like incomplete or like its missing something. Regardless, I think this is still good because now that the store itself is built out, it can always be redeveloped into something better! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IntheKnowHouston Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 After several private previews, Ciel opens to the public this evening. A few details about the restaurant's interior from a press release: "Named for the French word for “sky,” the interior features a 360-degree Barrisol Mirror ceiling fixture — the first in Houston, according to a release – that also helps with the room’s sound levels. Other interior details include imported Italian porcelain floors and marbled tables, blue velvet booths, and a hand-painted statue of Zeus." https://houston.culturemap.com/news/restaurants-bars/ciel-restaurant-uptown-river-oaks-opening-date/ 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naviguessor Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 It’s all just so tacky. I mean…the room needs something…but and hand painted statue of Zeus!? 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunstar Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 5 hours ago, IntheKnowHouston said: After several private previews, Ciel opens to the public this evening. A few details about the restaurant's interior from a press release: "Named for the French word for “sky,” the interior features a 360-degree Barrisol Mirror ceiling fixture — the first in Houston, according to a release – that also helps with the room’s sound levels. Other interior details include imported Italian porcelain floors and marbled tables, blue velvet booths, and a hand-painted statue of Zeus." https://houston.culturemap.com/news/restaurants-bars/ciel-restaurant-uptown-river-oaks-opening-date/ Isn’t that Poseidon? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LosFeliz Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 I thought it was Poseidon as well. Immediately thought why is the Sea God featured in a restaurant called Sky? And why is a Greek God in a French-named place? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gene Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 i kept asking about the statue, the art, the walls, the everything haha 🤪 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
editor Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 3 hours ago, Naviguessor said: It’s all just so tacky. I mean…the room needs something…but and hand painted statue of Zeus!? There's a speaker in the belly that calls out the name of the next party to be seated. "McDanielson! Party of tria! You have traveled far from the Land of Sugar and been judged worthy, so rise and meet your destiny just past the salad bar!" 1 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
004n063 Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 4 hours ago, LosFeliz said: I thought it was Poseidon as well. Immediately thought why is the Sea God featured in a restaurant called Sky? And why is a Greek God in a French-named place? Poseidon is the Sea God, but that includes things like hurricanes, which explains the Houston connection. The French connection has to do with the Trojan prince Paris, who- No, I'm kidding. All of this is just a Liberace fever dream. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hindesky Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmitch94 Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 Pretty decent even if the restaurant inside is a clown show. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kennyc05 Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 18 minutes ago, jmitch94 said: Pretty decent even if the restaurant inside is a clown show. Exactly too much going on they're trying to one up Bisou 🤦🏽♂️ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fortune Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 I'm glad they removed that horrible wooden fence that was up between this property and Target. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gene Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 i wonder how much longer Ciel will be open........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amlaham Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 19 hours ago, hindesky said: I like how the edited out the utility poles/ wires 😂 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Welling Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 42 minutes ago, gene said: i wonder how much longer Ciel will be open........... The reviews are terrible for it. It is funny though how Eater Houston and Chronicle both had positive things to say about Ciel. Time will tell. The negative reviews remind me of Juliet on Westheimer (which I am surprised that place is still open). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houston19514 Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 1 hour ago, Justin Welling said: The reviews are terrible for it. It is funny though how Eater Houston and Chronicle both had positive things to say about Ciel. Time will tell. The negative reviews remind me of Juliet on Westheimer (which I am surprised that place is still open). Where are you seeing the terrible reviews? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Welling Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 1 hour ago, Houston19514 said: Where are you seeing the terrible reviews? Google 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gene Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 Yelp has it's fair share as well! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houston19514 Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 32 minutes ago, gene said: Yelp has it's fair share as well! Yelp is a joke. There probably isn't a restaurant on the planet that doesn't have a fair share of terrible reviews on Yelp. FWIW, Yelp reviews average out to 3.5 stars (the same as Tony's, one of Houston's most celebrated restaurants). Open Table reviews (much more meaningful than Yelp reviews) give Ciel 4.2 stars (and Tony's 5 stars). Can one find terrible reviews for Ciel? Yes, but if one goes looking for them, one can find terrible reviews for any restaurant. Overall, I'm not finding anything to justify a blanket statement that "reviews are terrible". 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Welling Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 (edited) @Houston19514 The reviews are paragraphs long. If multiple people had such a poor experience that they would spend a decent amount of time to write it out, I think it is a sign. Maybe to clear up the confusion, since you do love to harp on tiny details, I should've said this: Ciel has some pretty *interesting* one star reviews. Take that with what you will, but I would be hesitant to go after reading the ones on Google. Yea, you're right. Me saying the reviews are terrible is a blanket statement....But hey, what if you went to Ciel for a night out and see for yourself since you are so adamant that the reviews are pointless ;). Let us all know your experience. FWIW, it is getting old how you try to correct so many of us on this platform. Edited February 16 by Justin Welling 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gene Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 (edited) 18 hours ago, Houston19514 said: Yelp is a joke. There probably isn't a restaurant on the planet that doesn't have a fair share of terrible reviews on Yelp. FWIW, Yelp reviews average out to 3.5 stars (the same as Tony's, one of Houston's most celebrated restaurants). Open Table reviews (much more meaningful than Yelp reviews) give Ciel 4.2 stars (and Tony's 5 stars). Can one find terrible reviews for Ciel? Yes, but if one goes looking for them, one can find terrible reviews for any restaurant. Overall, I'm not finding anything to justify a blanket statement that "reviews are terrible". i mean duh........................! i wouldn't say Yelp is a joke but of course you can't trust all reviews on there...haha of course even my favorite restaurants have bad reviews...i am just saying, when you look at the place you can tell it is already dated and just so tacky....some will love that and probably do... but with the majority of reviews being bad i would say it's probably not great. I work in travel and when most people ask about hotels and say they look at tripadvisor i remind them they need to go with the general consensus...not just on one or two or even a handful of bad reviews. I am sorry you work there or know someone that does or have some vested interest in the place to make you SEEM defensive but look i don't want it to not succeed, i am just saying i bet it wont. BUT again, my favorite movies, bands, songs, hotels, restaurants all have bad review or aren't liked by someone...we will just wait to see what happens! i wish them luck! Edited February 17 by gene 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kennyc05 Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 Now this place right here is going to do really well I believe! https://houston.culturemap.com/news/restaurants-bars/09-07-22-se7en-new-restaurant-upper-kirby-collection-vibe-dining-nightclub-frank-edosomwan/ 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houston19514 Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 (edited) 2 hours ago, gene said: i mean duh........................! i wouldn't say Yelp is a joke but of course you can't trust all reviews on there...haha of course even my favorite restaurants have bad reviews...i am just saying, when you look at the place you can tell it is already dated and just so tacky....some will love that and probably do... but with the majority of reviews being bad i would say it's probably not great. I work in travel and when most people ask about hotels and say they look at tripadvisor i remind them they need to go with the general consensus...not just on one or two or even a handful of bad reviews. I am sorry you work there or know someone that does or have some vested interest in the place to make you SEEM defensive but look i don't want it to not succeed, i am just saying i bet it wont. BUT again, my favorite movies, bands, songs, hotels, restaurants all have bad review or aren't liked by someone...we will just wait to see what happens! i wish them luck! . Haifers love to go to the ad hominem. I could not possibly have less connection to or interest in this restaurant than I do. It looks interesting, unique... I doubt I'll ever go there... just not my vibe. I don't care if they have bad reviews or good reviews. Their success or failure will have no impact on my life. I care about honest information. When I see misstatements here, I'll point them out, as I did in this case. And speaking of misstatements, what review site shows the majority of reviews being bad? A restaurant doesn't get 3.5 stars on Yelp or 4.2 stars on Open Table if you have more bad reviews than good. Back to Yelp. One doesn't even have to dine in a restaurant in order to leave a review on Yelp. It seems very odd, but restaurant owners will tell you that people do indeed write bad reviews of places in which they have never set foot. I can't explain, just as I can't explain why people post obvious misstatements on forums such as this (and then get all butt-hurt when someone points out the inaccuracy). Tony's getting only 3.5 stars on Yelp tells you all you need to know about the reliability of Yelp reviews. FWIW, there have been 67 reviews on Open Table (Open Table confirms that the reviewers have dined in a restaurant): 5 stars: 36 (54%) 4 stars: 7 (so 64.2% gave it either 4 or 5 stars) 3 stars: 5 2 stars: 9 1 star: 10 Edited February 17 by Houston19514 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gene Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 Ciel is now closed they open at 530 haha 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Welling Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 At the end of the day, this is just a forum. It is a place for us to share what we know, what we feel, what we are thinking, and ask questions. @Houston19514I knew the moment you asked me where I was seeing reviews, you were going to try to tell me how wrong I am (just based on your track record). Good to know that you treat exaggerations or any small side comments as objective statements. Not sure why? Maybe you just really like trying to prove people wrong to make yourself feel better (kudos to you). Anyways, learned my lesson to just not engage with you. Think about the impressions you are making. You take the joy out of this forum, and I am sure I am not alone in that feeling. I see how you respond to others, often condescending and in a negative tone. Wish you all the best and look forward to seeing more of your comments on the forum :). Always a pleasure.... 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_cuevas713 Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 (edited) So basically this Target lot is the only thing really holding the area back from becoming super dense and urban? From the RR tracks to ROD, the area is relatively walkable. There's no way San Felipe goes on much longer without sidewalks. Edited February 17 by j_cuevas713 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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