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Hines Block 42 Residential High-Rise: 46-stories

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brijonmang    4,135

I don't have the specifics for the height, floors, architect, etc. but here's what she's going to look like... I believe this is the view of the north side of the building that will face Market Square.  This is based on the other renderings of the Chronicle site building.

 

Block 42:

 

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Twinsanity02    551
48 minutes ago, brijonmang said:

I don't have the specifics for the height, floors, architect, etc. but here's what she's going to look like... I believe this is the view of the north side of the building that will face Market Square.  This is based on the other renderings of the Chronicle site building.

Block 42.JPG

Grand Slam Homerun Timoric!

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LBC2HTX    85

Beautiful building that will really increase the gravity of market square (along with the new office building). Only things left are the chase bank lot, the parking lot/BOA ATM at 800 Franklin, and more efficient use of the half lot of parking for Hotel Icon/Islamic Center. 

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htownbro    231
9 minutes ago, kbates2 said:

612 for residential would be awesome.

 

I find it strange that Houston doesn't have the tallest residential tower in Texas.  Nice design of this building though!

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urbanize713    1,044
13 minutes ago, kbates2 said:

612 for residential would be awesome.

That would make it the tallest in Houston, correct? Tallest now is 2929 Wesleyan at 533 ft ?

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Houston19514    2,458
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16 minutes ago, urbanize713 said:

That would make it the tallest in Houston, correct? Tallest now is 2929 Wesleyan at 533 ft ?

 

Emporis has 2929 Weslayan at 468'.  I think The Huntingdon is still the tallest residential in Houston at 503'

 

612' would make for some pretty tall ceilings for a rental building.  Skepticism might be in order here.

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LBC2HTX    85
20 minutes ago, htownbro said:

 

I find it strange that Houston doesn't have the tallest residential tower in Texas.  Nice design of this building though!

The Austonian is ridiculous. 

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jmosele    99

Emporis always uses the estimate of 13.3' per floor when official heights aren't known on buildings. This will likely come in under 600'.

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ekdrm2d1    2
11 minutes ago, Houston19514 said:

 

Emporis has 2929 Weslayan at 468'.  I think The Huntingdon is still the tallest residential in Houston at 503'

 

612' would make for some pretty tall ceilings for a rental building.  Skepticism might be in order here.

 

Find it odd Houston hasn’t built anything taller since 1984 with The Huntingdon.

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Specwriter    201

Whatever the height this image really looks good. I hope the completed building is very faithful to it. It is certainly not a banal box but it is not so over-the-top that it will look dated in the future.

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MarathonMan    427
21 minutes ago, htownbro said:

 

I find it strange that Houston doesn't have the tallest residential tower in Texas.  Nice design of this building though!

Good point, and it begs the question:  Why are the new and proposed residential/mixed use towers in Austin significantly taller, on average, than those in Houston?  Is it because real estate is much more expensive there?  Rents in central Houston have to be comparable to those in Austin.  And newly-delivered units in Houston fill quickly, so the demand is definitely there.  Why, then, the hesitation to go taller in H-Town?

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urbanize713    1,044
33 minutes ago, Houston19514 said:

 

Emporis has 2929 Weslayan at 468'.  I think The Huntingdon is still the tallest residential in Houston at 503'

 

612' would make for some pretty tall ceilings for a rental building.  Skepticism might be in order here.

 

Skyscraper Page has 2929 at 162.5M and Huntingdon at 153.3M. Which one is right?

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H-Town Man    2,298
15 minutes ago, MarathonMan said:

Good point, and it begs the question:  Why are the new and proposed residential/mixed use towers in Austin significantly taller, on average, than those in Houston?  Is it because real estate is much more expensive there?  Rents in central Houston have to be comparable to those in Austin.  And newly-delivered units in Houston fill quickly, so the demand is definitely there.  Why, then, the hesitation to go taller in H-Town?

 

A few things. Land values are higher - two properties in downtown Austin have sold for $700/SF recently. The Chronicle site went for somewhere in the $500's, and I'm pretty sure that's Houston's record. This is due in part to scarcity - downtown Austin is the only place in the city you can build a highrise due to zoning, and much of it is off limits due to the Capitol view corridors. Very few land parcels in play. In Houston, you can build a highrise just about anywhere. It's also due to rents and demand being a little hotter in Austin. Downtown Houston is still taking off as a 24-hour neighborhood, downtown Austin has been at it awhile longer. This is our first downtown residential highrise after the subsidies, so 46 stories is a pretty nice start. I expect to see 50-60 floors on Block 45 whenever it gets developed.

 

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H-Town Man    2,298
2 hours ago, brijonmang said:

I don't have the specifics for the height, floors, architect, etc. but here's what she's going to look like... I believe this is the view of the north side of the building that will face Market Square.  This is based on the other renderings of the Chronicle site building.

Block 42.JPG

 

I think it's better than Block 58. Best downtown design since Alessandra 1.0.

 

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Houston19514    2,458
10 minutes ago, urbanize713 said:

 

Skyscraper Page has 2929 at 162.5M and Huntingdon at 153.3M. Which one is right?

 

I'm not sure, but I doubt 2929 has average floor height (slab to slab)  of 13 feet, 8 inches. So, I'd lean towards Emporis' number of 468' (= 12 feet per floor, far more likely)

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thatguysly    388
3 minutes ago, H-Town Man said:

 

A few things. Land values are higher - two properties in downtown Austin have sold for $700/SF recently. The Chronicle site went for somewhere in the $500's, and I'm pretty sure that's Houston's record. This is due in part to scarcity - downtown Austin is the only place in the city you can build a highrise due to zoning, and much of it is off limits due to the Capitol view corridors. Very few land parcels in play. In Houston, you can build a highrise just about anywhere. It's also due to rents and demand being a little hotter in Austin. Downtown Houston is still taking off as a 24-hour neighborhood, downtown Austin has been at it awhile longer. This is our first downtown residential highrise after the subsidies, so 46 stories is a pretty nice start. I expect to see 50-60 floors on Block 45 whenever it gets developed.

 

 

To add to that, downtown Austin has the music scene and nightlife to backup living there. Houston only recently started working on bringing downtown back and it is still way behind Austin.

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Twinsanity02    551

With all those high rise apartments , lofts, office buildings etc built and going up,  to paraphrase Roy Scheider in Jaws, "We're gonna need a bigger park".  How I haven't a clue.

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Timoric    903
46 minutes ago, thatguysly said:

Is this expected to start soon as well? Hines could be doing some serious work in Market Square.

It would be cool if the Market Square Tower that is just a brutalist garage now next door finds a way to add another AA tower - tri-fecta. 

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Timoric    903
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1 hour ago, thatguysly said:

Is this expected to start soon as well? Hines could be doing some serious work in Market Square.

And there is still the possibility of getting this since they already built the garage portion first just like Skanska.

 

Anyone up for a tri-fecta?

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H-Town Man    2,298
23 minutes ago, Timoric said:

And there is still the possibility of getting this since they already built the garage portion first just like Skanska.

 

Anyone up for a tri-fecta?

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They should scrap the office and build a hotel here.

 

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thatguysly    388
26 minutes ago, Timoric said:

And there is still the possibility of getting this since they already built the garage portion first just like Skanska.

 

Anyone up for a tri-fecta?

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Yes please. That building would look great. 

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kbates2    818
8 minutes ago, H-Town Man said:

 

They should scrap the office and build a hotel here.

 

 100%.  Or another residential.  Or mixed with office and hotel/residential.  Just not a stand-alone office.

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Twinsanity02    551
3 hours ago, brijonmang said:

I don't have the specifics for the height, floors, architect, etc. but here's what she's going to look like... I believe this is the view of the north side of the building that will face Market Square.  This is based on the other renderings of the Chronicle site building.

Block 42.JPG

Thanks for this find. Certainly has lit up Haif today!

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LBC2HTX    85

Only if it's a W, Ritz-Carlton or SLS/Delano/Mondrain, please. Add a cool day-club and Houston will be rockin. 

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brijonmang    4,135
12 minutes ago, Twinsanity02 said:

Thanks for this find. Certainly has lit up Haif today!

 

My pleasure.  I was just waiting to get the OK to post it.  I'm a huge fan of it. 

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wxman    524

Very sexy indeed. Since when do we have black and white renderings tho?

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Timoric    903
29 minutes ago, Twinsanity02 said:

Thanks for this find. Certainly has lit up Haif today!

Now take this rendering and alter it to what Randall Davis could do to it (:

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Timoric    903
30 minutes ago, Twinsanity02 said:

Thanks for this find. Certainly has lit up Haif today!

Wonder if the Hines family will take a unit like Judge Roy did in the Astrodome.

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lockmat    1,965

The bend and tapered north side is nice but the glass curtain is giving me an office-feel so I'm hoping a colored rendering or different angle will make it feel more residential.

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Houston?    109

Downtown is taking strides! I can’t until it gets a lot of foot traffic and becomes a 24 Hour neighborhood. 

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H-Town Man    2,298
1 hour ago, brijonmang said:

 

My pleasure.  I was just waiting to get the OK to post it.  I'm a huge fan of it. 

 

I assume your getting the ok means that it has reached some critical "moving forward" point?

 

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CREguy13    731

From what I've been told, both Block 58 and 42 will rise at the same time and 42 is scheduled to open before 58.  I would imagine that if brijonmang was given the okay to present the rendering, that a press release on groundbreaking is forthcoming.

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lockmat    1,965
2 hours ago, H-Town Man said:

 

I assume your getting the ok means that it has reached some critical "moving forward" point?

 

 

That's good news, thanks.

 

I wonder which property adjacent to the park is most likely to go next. Chase bank site? 

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wxman    524

Is block 58 the market square garage that the long rendered highrise with the curved side will be built on top of?

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MarathonMan    427
6 hours ago, wxman said:

Is block 58 the market square garage that the long rendered highrise with the curved side will be built on top of?

58 is the current Hines tower construction site.

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htownbro    231
12 hours ago, Reporter said:

Just for fun.

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Now the east end of DT needs to be filled in more with residential and hotels.

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Nate99    6,336

Looks really nice. That’s a lot of people in one spot now with Catalyst and Alexan just down the street. 

 

How about that two story Central Market on the lot across Main from the back of  Aris?

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lockmat    1,965
2 hours ago, htownbro said:

Now the east end of DT needs to be filled in more with residential and hotels.

 

I agree, some 30-40 story towers to kinda cover up those 80s office towers. 

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