Urbannizer Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 https://munozalbin.com/project/confidential-multi-family-tower/ 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H-Town Man Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 On 8/2/2018 at 10:16 AM, brijonmang said: I don't have the specifics for the height, floors, architect, etc. but here's what she's going to look like... I believe this is the view of the north side of the building that will face Market Square. This is based on the other renderings of the Chronicle site building. Block 42: Wonder what happened to the glass on the lower floors. Makes a substantial difference. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urbannizer Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 549', construction starts next month https://oeaaa.faa.gov/oeaaa/external/searchAction.jsp?action=displayOECase&oeCaseID=390896718&row=8 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thatguysly Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 The base is very RD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kbates2 Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 Yeah looks like this has been value engineered down quite a bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highrise Tower Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 I’d much prefer the glass base but it’s still wonderful Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naviguessor Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 Aside from a change is the façade over the garage levels, I cannot identify any other significant changes. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swtsig Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 12 minutes ago, kbates2 said: Yeah looks like this has been value engineered down quite a bit. how so? other than replacing glass with stone on the base it looks identical. i would've been much more concerned had they reduced the glass curtain wall in the highrise section and/or altered the unique curvature in the design. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H-Town Man Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 11' shy of Museum Tower in Dallas, but about a generation more advanced in terms of urbanism and making use of the site. I'm not sure if any building in Texas has built so high on such a small site. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luminare Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 10 minutes ago, swtsig said: how so? other than replacing glass with stone on the base it looks identical. i would've been much more concerned had they reduced the glass curtain wall in the highrise section and/or altered the unique curvature in the design. I agree with you. Then again the other guys reaction was a bit hyperbolic. This update is better. Its more honest and I think will help accentuate the curve more than glass will. The design of this building is going to make the tower next door look extremely dated and silly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainJilliams Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 Despite the changes, this is still a pretty beautiful tower. It'll be a great addition to this area of town! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kbates2 Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 I guess maybe "quite a bit" was aggressive. The base looks altered as well as the North facing facade. The crown looks a bit shorter and the cut-out on the south-side looks less steep. I still like the rendering a lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twinsanity02 Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 Do I understand this correctly? The very ugly chronicle garage is going to be replaced by this beautiful high rise apartment building? Say it's so Joe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hindesky Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 I guess I’m going to have to find a new vantage point for my pics. Took many a bike trips up that garage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montrose1100 Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 Anyone comparing this to RD is laughable. A Hines structure, no matter how modest, could never achieve the cheapness RD does on 610 (heading south before 59). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmitch94 Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 Hines is Mercedes, well build not overly flashy but very handsome. RD is Maserati, very flashy with terrible build quality and in the end is just a very expensive Chrysler. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thatguysly Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 10 hours ago, Montrose1100 said: Anyone comparing this to RD is laughable. A Hines structure, no matter how modest, could never achieve the cheapness RD does on 610 (heading south before 59). I meant the change in the podium only. Hines and Hanover always build great stuff. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ttuchris Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 According to HBJ, this is a go, late 2021 completion. 7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LBC2HTX Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 https://www.bizjournals.com/houston/news/2019/01/24/hines-planning-46-story-apartment-tower-in.html Quote A filing for the residential project named Block 42 Multifamily Project at 414 Milam on the state’s licensing and regulation website describes it as a “46-story, 373-unit multifamily building with integral garage and amenity spaces.” The filing lists an estimated construction start date of Dec. 1, 2018, with an Aug. 1, 2021, estimated completion. The state filing for the Block 42 multifamily project lists Houston-based House+Partners as the design firm. A spokesman from Hines declined to comment at this time. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brijonmang Posted January 24, 2019 Author Share Posted January 24, 2019 59 minutes ago, ttuchris said: According to HBJ, this is a go, late 2021 completion. Wreck 'em 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luminare Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, LBC2HTX said: https://www.bizjournals.com/houston/news/2019/01/24/hines-planning-46-story-apartment-tower-in.html I'm wondering if they mean House+Partners is the "Architect of Record". The actual design itself was by Munoz+Albin, right? Would be consistent with Munoz+Albin's past projects since they normally finish their commitment after Design Development and then hand it off to another firm to do Construction Documents. Could be wrong though. Edited January 24, 2019 by Luminare 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H-Town Man Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 32 minutes ago, Luminare said: I'm wondering if they mean House+Partners is the "Architect of Record". The actual design itself was by Munoz+Albin, right? Would be consistent with Munoz+Albin's past projects since they normally finish their commitment after Design Development and then hand it off to another firm to do Construction Documents. Could be wrong though. No you're right. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_cuevas713 Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 (edited) It says next to the one currently getting built. So what lot are they referring to that’s next to this project? Edited January 24, 2019 by j_cuevas713 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_cuevas713 Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 (edited) Nevermind I figured it out Edited January 24, 2019 by j_cuevas713 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jmitch94 Posted January 24, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted January 24, 2019 Before construction begins. 10 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luminare Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 So would the "International Tower" site be where the trailers would go? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avossos Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 51 minutes ago, jmitch94 said: Before construction begins. Doesnt seem close to starting since cars are still parking here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post CREguy13 Posted January 24, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted January 24, 2019 The cars in that garage are likely on month-to-month contracts, if not daily parking. Realistically, this thing could be down in a month. My understanding was that Hines wanted both Block 42 and Block 58 to deliver around the same time, with B42 actually delivering first. I imagine this garage will be gone within 30 - 60 days. 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
houstontexasjack Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 39 minutes ago, Luminare said: So would the "International Tower" site be where the trailers would go? Could they piggy back with the trailers for Block 58? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twinsanity02 Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 4 hours ago, jmitch94 said: Before construction begins. To paraphrase part Oliver Cromwell's speech to the rump parliament: It is high time to put an end to your sitting in this place, which you have dishonored by your ugliness and defiled by your practice. Go! Begone! 7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shasta Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 15 hours ago, Twinsanity02 said: To paraphrase part Oliver Cromwell's speech to the rump parliament: It is high time to put an end to your sitting in this place, which you have dishonored by your ugliness and defiled by your practice. Go! Begone! Ha...Never thought I'd read an Oliver Cromwell quote in a downtown Houston thread... Now NYC..that would make sense since he had the Duke of York's father beheaded. Yes, that Duke of York that named NYC after himself. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
htownbro Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 On 8/7/2018 at 12:15 PM, downtownian said: This looks like it should be a condo building and not rentals. Can anyone confirm? apartments starting at 3900.00 a month. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kbates2 Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 23 minutes ago, htownbro said: apartments starting at 3900.00 a month. Not quite starting at $3,900. "Units will range from 580 to 2,927 square feet, with the average size unit renting for around $3,900 per month." 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H-Town Man Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 (edited) The Preston. Sounds like it should wear a sweater vest. I do like the use of street names though. I think this will be our generation's Huntington, where the Gordon Gekkos of Houston will live. Edited February 4, 2019 by H-Town Man 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triton Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 Just curious, what are the type of people who get these units? Are these people that usually move around the country that prefer not to buy a home and want a downtown view? I mean, I'm trying to figure out the math... at $3900 a month, why not just pay a mortgage and own a home? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LBC2HTX Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 (edited) 29 minutes ago, Triton said: Just curious, what are the type of people who get these units? Are these people that usually move around the country that prefer not to buy a home and want a downtown view? I mean, I'm trying to figure out the math... at $3900 a month, why not just pay a mortgage and own a home? People that choose to pay that much in rent are those for which $3,900 would not get them a home that they'd want to live in. They'd want to live ITL so you're at a minimum spending 700k for anything they'd even consider. Putting 20% on a $700k house would be $2,670 (4% interest) + property taxes puts you at $4k a month. Believe it or not, the people that pay that much in rent are those that are waiting to buy (or just downsized) a home that's more expensive than 700k. Edited February 4, 2019 by LBC2HTX 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rechlin Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 35 minutes ago, Triton said: Just curious, what are the type of people who get these units? Are these people that usually move around the country that prefer not to buy a home and want a downtown view? I mean, I'm trying to figure out the math... at $3900 a month, why not just pay a mortgage and own a home? Many people don't want to live in a house and would rather live in a high-rise. And many people would rather not tie up so much capital in something as illiquid as a house, especially if they don't want to live in the same area for more than 5 years. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasGeneral Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 40 minutes ago, Triton said: Just curious, what are the type of people who get these units? Are these people that usually move around the country that prefer not to buy a home and want a downtown view? I mean, I'm trying to figure out the math... at $3900 a month, why not just pay a mortgage and own a home? People who don’t want the hassle of maintaining a home and prefer the lock and leave lifestyle. I know some people that sold their primary residence and rent a high rise unit - they spend a lot of time at their second home in Colorado and don’t need a large single family house anymore since their kids are grown. They are in Houston about half the year. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H-Town Man Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 6 hours ago, rechlin said: Many people don't want to live in a house and would rather live in a high-rise. And many people would rather not tie up so much capital in something as illiquid as a house, especially if they don't want to live in the same area for more than 5 years. When Triton wrote "home," he may also have meant a condo. Of course, condo options downtown are pretty limited and not this nice. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highrise Tower Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 Quote Jorge Munoz, Principal, Munoz + Albin Architecture and Planning as Houston-based Hines is announced its newest downtown residential tower, which will be developed on the former Chronicle garage site at Prairie and Milam Streets, Friday, Feb. 1, 2019, in Houston. Photo: Karen Warren, Staff Photographer https://www.chron.com/business/real-estate/article/Hines-reveals-designs-for-downtown-apartment-tower-13581222.php#photo-16861603 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HtownWxBoy Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 (edited) So will this be Houston's tallest residential building when it's done? Current tallest is 2929 Weslayan at 40 floors / 533 feet. Edited February 5, 2019 by HtownWxBoy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houston19514 Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, HtownWxBoy said: So will this be Houston's tallest residential building when it's done? Current tallest is 2929 Weslayan at 40 floors / 533 feet. Pretty sure the Huntingdon (503 feet) still reigns as the tallest residential building in Houston. Second place is One Park Place (501 feet) Third place is Market Square Tower (498 feet). I believe 2929 Weslayan at 468 feet is currently the fourth tallest residential building in Houston. I suspect The Preston will be at least the 2nd tallest residential in Houston, very possibly the tallest Edited February 5, 2019 by Houston19514 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twinsanity02 Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 Emporis list this at 549 feet. Do not know how accurate their data is. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HtownWxBoy Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 36 minutes ago, Twinsanity02 said: Emporis list this at 549 feet. Do not know how accurate their data is. If true that would make it our tallest residential building when complete... about the same height as Downtown's Wedge International Tower. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxman Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 I think One Park Place is #2 at 501 feet. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarathonMan Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 17 minutes ago, wxman said: I think One Park Place is #2 at 501 feet. 2929 Weslayan is 533’ The Huntingdon is 503’ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houston19514 Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 (edited) 14 minutes ago, MarathonMan said: 2929 Weslayan is 533’ The Huntingdon is 503’ Source? (Emporis had it at 468 feet) 34 minutes ago, wxman said: I think One Park Place is #2 at 501 feet. You are correct. I overlooked One Park Place. Edited my post to correct. Edited February 5, 2019 by Houston19514 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houston19514 Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 (edited) Interesting... CTBUH shows the following: 1. 2929 Weslayan. 533' 2. The Huntington [sic]. 503' 3. Market Square Tower 502' 4. One Park Place. 501' I'm a little skeptical of CTBUH's 533' for 2929. I doubt it is taller than Market Square Tower. Market Square Tower has more floors. Emporis's 468' seems more likely. Edit: after further research, I discovered that according to the FAA filling made by the builders, the final height of 2929 is 468' https://oeaaa.faa.gov/oeaaa/external/public/publicAction.jsp?action=showDashTwoForm&suppCaseNoticeID=258539117 1. The Huntingdon. 503' 2. Market Square Tower 502' 3. One Park Place 501' 4. 2929 Weslayan. 468'. It looks like the incorrect 533' is a leftover from an earlier "estimate" posted on Emporis. Edited February 5, 2019 by Houston19514 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kbates2 Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 We need a 504 footer. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Urbannizer Posted February 5, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted February 5, 2019 This comes in at #1 when complete 14 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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