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After 56 seasons, they did it. THE ASTROS ARE WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS!!!!!!  Now, they can redesign the Crawford St wall once more to include a place of honor for the World Series banner.

since I was on a self imposed world series watch ban, I snapped this last night around the 7th inning.  

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Some basic rules of baseball, proven over the past few seasons:

- If there are games left to be played, the Astros are still in the race.

- Don't throw to Sir Albert, regardless of the situation. He is the only person alive who can probably hit a walk-off homer, down 5 runs.

- If there's a game on ESPN, there's an 85% chance it's NY-Boston.

- NY and Boston play each other 75 games each season -- it's the only matchup America cares about

- The Cubs will begin their "September Slide" a week earlier every year. This year, they started it on June 6th. Next year it'll begin at the end of May.

- If Roger Clemens is pitching, his ERA will be lower than the price of a gallon of gas, but higher than his run support.

- A team will slide into the playoffs unnoticed (last year's Astros, this year's Tigers or Twins) and wreak havok.

- The Texas Rangers will realize that pitching over offense wins games, but do nothing about it.

- The Yankees will find a way to pay more in salaries than they did last year.

- Seattle will complain about their national following being low, because they play on the west coast.

- The Giants, Angels, A's and Dodgers will continue to wonder what Seattle is talking about.

- The Padres won't.

- The Pirates will stink.

- Somebody's girlfriend at some ballpark will say, "I didn't even know Tampa had a team."

- He'll say, "I thought it was a typo."

- The Angels will change their name to something that embraces more of the LA basin, in order to gain a larger fan base...or less, if they start getting the thugs from Long Beach down in Anaheim.

- Current leading contender is "The Los Angeles and Orange County part known as Anaheim, west of the 5, but not counting Santa Ana, because they're getting too scuzzy Angels.

- The AL will have home field advantage in in the WS

- San Antonio will come "this close" to landing an MLB team, then switch their sights, unsuccessfully, to the NFL.

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Yo, check it. We're only 1 1/2 back now! Cards lost to the Padres again last night, and we beat the Pirates. The Cards have one more against the Padres tonight, then four against the Brewers, plus a make-up game against the Giants. The Astros have two more against the Pirates, and three against the Braves. I never thought I'd ever say this, but GO BREWERS!! It would still take a MIRACLE to make it to the post-season, but if this happens, it could be the biggest comeback in Astros history. Let's hope...

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Jason Hirsh makes me nervous.

yup. let's hope the right guy shows up. its all or nothing with him.

why not put RoyO on with three days rest? he consistently destroys the Pirates. then he possibly could be available for the last game against the Braves as well.

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I have hope, but I'm not going to get it up too high. I know they have a chance and I'll leave it at that for now. I'll wait until (if) they get to the playoffs and then officially go on a fan frenzy.

I love the buzz in Houston when one of our teams are doing well. It's something positive for the local madia to focus on for a change and it just feels good. ^_^

If all falls through then so be it. I'll look forward to April!

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I have hope, but I'm not going to get it up too high. I know they have a chance and I'll leave it at that for now. I'll wait until (if) they get to the playoffs and then officially go on a fan frenzy.

I love the buzz in Houston when one of our teams are doing well. It's something positive for the local madia to focus on for a change and it just feels good. ^_^

If all falls through then so be it. I'll look forward to April!

It's nice to see Huff and Luke Scott coming through right now. It's gonna be nice next year when all the young guys are able to play the way they are at the beginning of next season. Regardless of if we make it to the playoffs or not, if we play as well as we have recently for the last five games of the season, we have a LOT to be proud of with the 'Stros.

That being said, I'd LOVE to see Biggio will a ring. And I would LOVE to be in Houston while my 'Stros play in a World Series.

And maybe the Cards/Astros rivalry just got a little more heated. Perhaps they're our Red Sox/Yankees...

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Now, for us to make it, we have to sweep the Braves, and HOPE the Brewers can win at least two...

And win today - luckily we have Roy O today, we need him to go late in the game after a night like last night. He's a gamer, I think we should be ok today.

At worst, we need the Brewers to win 1 and we sweep. This would force the Cards to play the make up game against San Fran on Monday. If they lose that, we tie for the season, a win and they are in. At the very least, I want them to have to earn this thing, so here's hoping we sweep the Braves.

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I must say that I've NEVER heard this kind of buzz before in Houston (mind U, I ws out of country for the past few years except Super Bowl '04).

I was working out in a gym here in the Alief area during last night's game during the 6-9th innings, and the gym was full of sweaty men and women riding bikes and running treadmills cheering and booing every at-bat from the tv showing the game above. I've never heard cheering in a gym like I did when we hit in the 9th to save the game. Drama 4 yo mama, yo B)

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I must say that I've NEVER heard this kind of buzz before in Houston (mind U, I ws out of country for the past few years except Super Bowl '04).

I was working out in a gym here in the Alief area during last night's game during the 6-9th innings, and the gym was full of sweaty men and women riding bikes and running treadmills cheering and booing every at-bat from the tv showing the game above. I've never heard cheering in a gym like I did when we hit in the 9th to save the game. Drama 4 yo mama, yo B)

Agreed, you NEVER see the 'Stros on sportscenter, and now you can't get Houston off of it. They are either talking about Mario Williams, or the 'Stros.

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I'm going to try to go to Saturday's game against Atlanta. I'm hoping the team can win the division that day. Tickets shouldn't be hard to come by since it's in Atlanta. :lol:

I know it's a bit premature, but I got my tickets to game two. I don't even know if I'll be in town that day(I should be though). If I'm not I'll give/sell them. If they don't make it I get my money back.

Come on 'Stros!!!

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BRING AS MANY ASTROS FANS TO ATLANTA'S STADIUM AS POSSIBLE!!!! I'd LOVE to see Atlanta painted Orange!!!!!!!!!!!

ORANGE ? You have been away far too long DJ, there aren't enough people in this town that where "Throwback" Jerseys too accomplish what you are asking. Atlanta stadium may be a nice Crimson Red though.

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ORANGE ? You have been away far too long DJ, there aren't enough people in this town that where "Throwback" Jerseys too accomplish what you are asking. Atlanta stadium may be a nice Crimson Red though.

My bad:) Just pick a color in the Astro's history of uniforms, and transfer them to Atlanta's ballpark for the weekend B)

Here's what's up right now. The Astros are winning at the bottom of the 5th 3-0 over the Pirates right now. We got walked twice with the bases loaded. Thanx Pittsburgh so far! Let's see us win this one! Let's hope the Brewers pull off the upset tonight as well!!

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I'd LOVE to see Atlanta painted Orange!!!!!!!!!!!

Let me tell you, I went to Atlanta a couple of years back to see the Astros play (Pettitte was pitching). It was like I was in Little Houston. I was surprised to see so many Astros fans in Atlanta.

I never see that many fans of the visiting team when I visit Minute Maid Park.

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Let me tell you, I went to Atlanta a couple of years back to see the Astros play (Pettitte was pitching). It was like I was in Little Houston. I was surprised to see so many Astros fans in Atlanta.

I never see that many fans of the visiting team when I visit Minute Maid Park.

Cool :)

Astros won!! Come on Brewers!!!! :D

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Re: Palmeiro & OCD

I'm not talking about strap adjusting. I'm talking about when he's at the plate, he does all these quirky things that look involuntary. Watch his eyebrows and his hands. He's always wiping his forehead with his hands as if he's brushing the bangs out of his face or wiping sweat. Only he has no bangs and if it's sweat, sweat beads wouldn't have had time to build up on his forehead as frequently as he wipes it. He kind of reminds me of a spider monkey. Don't tell me you've never noticed. I can't be the only one who watches in fascination when Orlando's at the bat.

I haven't noticed this about Orlando - but I used to notice it about Biggio - only not so much anymore. It's been a few years now - but he would always come up to the plate, tap his bat on the base, turn it around in his hands, and then adjust the helmet with his right hand. I only notice him adjusting the helmet now. I guess that's how he got all the pine tar on it.

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I've never really noticed any Biggio quirks except for how he stretches his back before he bats.

Someone tell me, what do they mean by a half a game back? I don't understand that. So if they win half of the game tonight then they're tied with SL? :D

Are the Braves good? I don't keep up with the other sports team. Though right now of course I'm keeping one eye on the Cards and Reds.

A couple of my mom's friends drove to Atlanta this morning to cheer on the Astros. The more Astros fans, the better.

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we have the same number of wins as STL, but one more loss. They have 4 games left to play, and we have 3. that's where the half game comes from. They have a makeup game with the Giants, and if they are within a half game of us (either behind or ahead), they will have to make that game up in STL monday. so if we win tonight, and they lose, we'll be a half game ahead. if after Sunday, we are one and a half games ahead, the STL-SF game will not be played, since it'll be meaningless. those teams will end the season only to have played 161 games.

the braves are decent, and play us well. they also hate us (knocked them out of the NLDS the last two years), and don't want us to win our division on their soil. we have a good chance the next two days, but Pettitte vs Smoltz Sunday will be interesting. best we can do is play like we've been playing, and hope the Cards do the same.

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The Braves, who lost the finale of their three-game series against the New York Mets 7-4 on Thursday, have been knocked out of the Division Series in each of the last two years by the Astros, providing extra incentive for a team that will miss the playoffs for the first time since 1990.

"It would be fun to knock them out," right fielder Jeff Francoeur said.

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Thanks, skwatra.

the braves are decent, and play us well. they also hate us (knocked them out of the NLDS the last two years), and don't want us to win our division on their soil.

That's right, I forgot about that 18-inning game and the Chris Burke homerun last season.

Pettitte can sometimes he shaky. I hope he does well tonight.

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This will probably only be up for 1 more hour, but the Astro's Roger Clements is the feature picture on www.yahoo.com . I thought I'd NEVER see the Astros do that!!

......and if you go to Yahoo to find a "Roger Clements" picture, you are gonna be very frustrated. :angry2::wacko:

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I heard on the radio that the Astros have sign on Carlos Lee to a six year contract, he will be a outfielder. He's been hitting 30+ home runs for 4 consecutive seasons.

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The signing of Carlos Lee and Woody Williams is a bonanza for the Astros! It shows that great players want to be Astros and that the Astros can attract great players. This news can only help convince Pettitte to come back, can you imagine the Astros next year? They can't help but improve.

If by chance the Rocket came back, even for a short period, we could have Woody Williams (from Houston), Andy Pettitte (from Deer Park), Roger Clemens (from Houston), and Brandon Backe (from Galveston) all starting. Talk about home cooking!

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The signing of Carlos Lee and Woody Williams is a bonanza for the Astros! It shows that great players want to be Astros and that the Astros can attract great players. This news can only help convince Pettitte to come back, can you imagine the Astros next year? They can't help but improve.

If by chance the Rocket came back, even for a short period, we could have Woody Williams (from Houston), Andy Pettitte (from Deer Park), Roger Clemens (from Houston), and Brandon Backe (from Galveston) all starting. Talk about home cooking!

I share in your excitement and do consider Lee and Williams huge additions to our team. Some reality is in order, though --

Backe may not be healthy for the upcoming season. The kid has heart, though. Trainers will most likely have to physically restrain him to keep him on the DL. He'll need to pace himself.

Pettitte may not be himself, either. I think the signing of Lee is a clear indication that the Astros want Clemens for another season and are willing to pay for some run support. Woody's signing may be an indication that Pettitte might not be 100%. Is Woody our #2?

The biggest benefactor will be Berkman, batting in front of Lee. Look for Puma to crack 50 HRs and some ungodly RBI number this season. He will see lots of pitches to hit. I think about a .330-.340 BA should be in order, too. That is awesome.

Bottom line -- I think the Astros are overpaying for Lee and getting Woody a couple of years too late, but they really didn't have a choice. Both are huge. To go out and write big checks like the Astros did at this point, says, "we're serious, fans." It says, "we'd like Roger back for one more," too. Which, of course, says, "we're serious, fans." It also says, "we'd like to make Puma a legitimate superstar." Which, of course, says, "we're serious, fans."

I think they're serious. I like it.

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Why on earth would the Astros claim to want to improve their offense and improve their team, then want to trade a future star like Willy Taveras? He's the fastest player on their team. It's like they're going 2 steps forward, 3 steps back...

That speed though required him to get on base. Willy has the potential to be a great leadoff man, but he still was striking out too much and didn't walk enough. great contact/ slap player, but his lack of ability to hit for any kind of power consistently is his biggest downfall. if anything, i think his defense is what will be missed most. his hitting streak last year was great, but he also had worked himself out the lineup at one point. i think he will be good over the years, but i don't mind this deal if it means chris burke has a spot everyday in the lineup now.

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That speed though required him to get on base. Willy has the potential to be a great leadoff man, but he still was striking out too much and didn't walk enough. great contact/ slap player, but his lack of ability to hit for any kind of power consistently is his biggest downfall. if anything, i think his defense is what will be missed most. his hitting streak last year was great, but he also had worked himself out the lineup at one point. i think he will be good over the years, but i don't mind this deal if it means chris burke has a spot everyday in the lineup now.

Willy was second place as Rookie of the Year, and yea, had that 30-game hitting streak going on. He had a little slump at the end, but his hitting skills are unquestionable. When on base (which I think he'll do well next year), he could almost be a guaranteed run with Berkman and Lee at 3 and 4.

I also don't like the fact that trading Tavaras for Garland may result in us not being able to sign Pettitte, Clements, or Huff next year. It's almost like we're giving up four stars instead of one.

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Willy was second place as Rookie of the Year, and yea, had that 30-game hitting streak going on. He had a little slump at the end, but his hitting skills are unquestionable. When on base (which I think he'll do well next year), he could almost be a guaranteed run with Berkman and Lee at 3 and 4.

I also don't like the fact that trading Tavaras for Garland may result in us not being able to sign Pettitte, Clements, or Huff next year. It's almost like we're giving up four stars instead of one.

I'm not so much concerned about Willy as I am that we're letting Buckholz go and may not be able to sign Pettitte. Unless the Astros know something about Pettitte that we don't, I don't know why we would take this guy over him. I sure hope we can still get Pettitte. With Pettitte added to the lineup with Garland, Oswalt, Backe, and a young gun, we'll be looking real good come spring training.

I also think Willy is expendable. He is a poor hitter; he can't be counted on to get on base. He's a great defensive player but if he's not on the field because of poor hitting then he's not playing defense either. Buckholz on the other hand still has a huge upside.

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Willy was second place as Rookie of the Year, and yea, had that 30-game hitting streak going on. He had a little slump at the end, but his hitting skills are unquestionable. When on base (which I think he'll do well next year), he could almost be a guaranteed run with Berkman and Lee at 3 and 4.

I also don't like the fact that trading Tavaras for Garland may result in us not being able to sign Pettitte, Clements, or Huff next year. It's almost like we're giving up four stars instead of one.

The 2nd place in the ROY means about nothing. His hitting skills are questionable - there is potential - but he has yet to put it all together. His OBP is .329 lifetime, way too low for a lead off guy. His strikeouts to walks ratio was over 2.5 to 1. He's a career .284 hitter - last season he had a grand total of 1 HR and 25 extra base hits. I'm not saying I don't think he has the tools to be a great Ichiro-ish player. But Ichiro learned how to get one base consistently and turn the speed into more than bunt singles.

In a lineup that lacks power aside from the 3 and 4 spots, its hard to have just a "speed" guy. You have to realize that right now the Astros have power only in the 3 and 4 spots - the rest of the lineup is completely unknown. Lee will help, but the 7 and 8 spots are black holes and even if one does get on base, Taveras can't get them home. You can't count on just bunt singling in runs when there are two outs. Burke starting should bring a little more power if he takes over the CF spot. He has some of the same flaws as Taveras in terms of plate discipline, but his power is substantially better.

As for Garland, he doesn't "prevent" the Astros from resigning Pettite - its up to Drayton whether he wants to make that payment or not. A rotation of Oswalt, Pettite, Garland, and Williams would be among the best in baseball - its up to McLane whether he wants to pay for it.

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The 2nd place in the ROY means about nothing. His hitting skills are questionable - there is potential - but he has yet to put it all together. His OBP is .329 lifetime, way too low for a lead off guy. His strikeouts to walks ratio was over 2.5 to 1. He's a career .284 hitter - last season he had a grand total of 1 HR and 25 extra base hits. I'm not saying I don't think he has the tools to be a great Ichiro-ish player. But Ichiro learned how to get one base consistently and turn the speed into more than bunt singles.

In a lineup that lacks power aside from the 3 and 4 spots, its hard to have just a "speed" guy. You have to realize that right now the Astros have power only in the 3 and 4 spots - the rest of the lineup is completely unknown. Lee will help, but the 7 and 8 spots are black holes and even if one does get on base, Taveras can't get them home. You can't count on just bunt singling in runs when there are two outs. Burke starting should bring a little more power if he takes over the CF spot. He has some of the same flaws as Taveras in terms of plate discipline, but his power is substantially better.

As for Garland, he doesn't "prevent" the Astros from resigning Pettite - its up to Drayton whether he wants to make that payment or not. A rotation of Oswalt, Pettite, Garland, and Williams would be among the best in baseball - its up to McLane whether he wants to pay for it.

From the Chicago Tribune:

Taveras, who turns 25 on Dec. 25, is one of the fastest players in baseball. He stole 33 bases, had a 30-game hitting streak and batted .278 last season.

The kid has potential. Like I said before, his 30-game hitting streak shows that. All he needs is more coaching and hitting practice so he could be consistant throughout next season. I don't think we've had a player as fast as him since Kenny Lofton. Biggest thing we could use from him is his speed. Can't think of any other Astro who has his speed to steal bases.

I also heard a rumor that we were pursuing Peavy from the San Diego Padres. Is the Astros top priority resigning Pettitte/Clements, finding another starting pitcher, or improving the Astros' offense?

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