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Of course it won't foster tolerance, any more than the Peace Bridge fosters peace. But that said, it's silly to take it literally. There's nothing wrong sometimes with naming things after laudable ideals is there?

I would say no, except when those ideals have been beaten into the ground. Maybe down the bayou we can get a Diversity Bridge, and further on we can top it all off with a Freedom Bridge. We'll rename Allen Parkway the Cliche Parkway. As long as we've given up on creativity we can at least go for consistency.

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Of course it won't foster tolerance, any more than the Peace Bridge fosters peace. But that said, it's silly to take it literally. There's nothing wrong sometimes with naming things after laudable ideals is there?

I think most people are aguing instead that "Tolerance" isn't a very laudable ideal. "Tolerance" sounds very 1970s. As in, "I don't like those other cultures, but I'll do the right thing and tolerate them."

A hallmark of Houston is that it--far more than the vast, vast majority of other cities--welcomes and encourages people of all cultures, races, and ethnicities. It's one of the things that makes Houston a great city and provides international appeal.

If you don't believe it, then take a day this weekend and drive around the city. Try going to some places you've never been to before. It's amazing how eclectic Houston's residents are and how cohesively we operate as Houstonians.

Houston doesn't "tolerate" others--it embraces others. Even if it's a simple error in linguistics, the naming of this Bridge misses the point.

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Its a horrible name. Nobody has ever thought to himself "Well, I was going to be intolerant of this person...but there is a Tolerance Bridge over the Buffalo Bayou, so I have decided to show some tolerance." You can't encourage an ideal by naming a bridge after the ideal. Now a 7 million dollar community center where people can congregate, that might help foster some tolerance.

Yeah, where do these hippies get off? Who would be so stupid to think that naming a public structure after some silly ideal like would have any impact on people whatsoever?

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The Tolerance Bridge needs a theme song.

Feel free to jump in. I'm still muddling through, but Queen really does to come to the top of the list. Killer Queen. Definitely one of the most underused songs, and so appropriate for diversity and tolerance and such. Plus, would accomodate bridge suicides nicely.

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So after you complain, you'll just tolerate it. I think Tolerance Bridge has accomplished its goal. Thanks, Tolerance Bridge!

Just because most people will eventually become tired of hearing me whine about it does not mean that I will not still continue to dislike and whine about the bridge and its name. Whining about it to whoever happens to be with me in the vicinity of the bridge will become a ritual of sorts.

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Just because most people will eventually become tired of hearing me whine about it does not mean that I will not still continue to dislike and whine about the bridge and its name. Whining about it to whoever happens to be with me in the vicinity of the bridge will become a ritual of sorts.

But you'll tolerate it in some way. You're not planning to blow it up or anything, are you? That's really all tolerance is: not blowing something up.

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But you'll tolerate it in some way. You're not planning to blow it up or anything, are you? That's really all tolerance is: not blowing something up.

So the KKK would be considered "tolerant" of black people if it only dresses in white robes and burns crosses on the lawns of black people but does not go so far as to blow them up? Even a lynching would be "tolerant" in some way because the KKK would at least not be blowing them up.

I reject your definition of tolerance.

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So the KKK would be considered "tolerant" of black people if it only dresses in white robes and burns crosses on the lawns of black people but does not go so far as to blow them up? Even a lynching would be "tolerant" in some way because the KKK would at least not be blowing them up.

I reject your definition of tolerance.

I tolerate your rejection of my definition of tolerance.

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I love this forum. :lol:

I think the design is interesting enough to be noteworthy, and the name is unusual enough to be memorable. As long as people drive by and say, "hay, did you see that little bridge? that's pretty cool" I am satisfied.

I'll have to concede that the name is a little awkward, but let's be honest, its only a pedestrian bridge---no one will refer to it by name.

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Slightly off topic - where was the bridge that burned a few days ago? Not sure if it spanned White Oak or Buffalo Bayou. Was it completely destroyed, or only damaged?

Saw mention of it in the print edition of the Chronicle, but doesn't appear to be online.

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From what I can see in the initial rendering, if you were to take away the decorative Moebius strip, it would look like just another graceless concrete bridge-on-stilts. I.e., the typical Houston bridge-over-the-bayou or freeway overpass. (The only exception I can think of is the Main Street Viaduct.)

It would be more interesting if the bridge supports mimicked the curvature of the superstructure in some fashion.

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I did some of the hydraulic work on this bridge. As currently planned, it will never get built.

It impedes too much flood waters for the bayou. The only way I could justify the bridge working was to cut down all those trees you see in the picture to allow the water to flow better.

I suggested some kind of cable stayed or suspension concept for the bridge that would eliminate a lot of the piles. Alas, I'm not an architect but only a hydraulic an hydrologic engineer.

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I simply think it does not look nice. I would like it more if it had a more natural feel; for example, if it looked like it was made of wood and was less ostentatious that would be a huge improvement imho.

Then it wouldn't be so 'arty'. Since it's being touted as a civic arts project, I wonder how much of the funding (if any) is coming from federal arts funding?

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Remember, this design was chosen in a competition. It is billed as art and art is objectionable. Personally, I like it (from the few pictures I've seen). Also, with the density that is already there or planned, I think it will be heavily used. It will also be helpful, for those north of Memorial & Allen Pkwy, getting to the dog park that's right there.

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Remember, this design was chosen in a competition. It is billed as art and art is objectionable.

LOL. I remember my freshman year of college, I had a professor who said "y'all just remember that this is Houston. We don't do art here. We do chemicals."

I like it too. It's a little pointy for my tastes, but that's fine; I'm just glad any pedestrian-only bridge is getting built over the bayou.

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LOL. I remember my freshman year of college, I had a professor who said "y'all just remember that this is Houston. We don't do art here. We do chemicals."

I like it too. It's a little pointy for my tastes, but that's fine; I'm just glad any pedestrian-only bridge is getting built over the bayou.

Oh puleeeze. That professor is an idiot! :angry: We do do art. We have the largest art car parade, the Museum of Natural Science has the second highest attendance of all museums in our country. To my knowledge, the Menil Collection is the, if not one of, the largest privately held collections on display. Plus, there are galleries and studios all over this town. And... remember the Westheimer (now Bayou City) Art Festival. I miss the street fest.

Sorry, I got riled.

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Oh puleeeze. That professor is an idiot! :angry: We do do art. We have the largest art car parade, the Museum of Natural Science has the second highest attendance of all museums in our country. To my knowledge, the Menil Collection is the, if not one of, the largest privately held collections on display. Plus, there are galleries and studios all over this town. And... remember the Westheimer (now Bayou City) Art Festival. I miss the street fest.

Sorry, I got riled.

Deep breaths!! I should have added that this was in 1983 when the city's art scene was far smaller, and he was a rather militant transplant from a big city in the east. Anyway the point is that there a still a lot of people (the kind who post on chron.com) who consider art in the public realm to be wasteful and unnecessary. I do not agree. Clearly you don't either. :)

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Deep breaths!! I should have added that this was in 1983 when the city's art scene was far smaller, and he was a rather militant transplant from a big city in the east. Anyway the point is that there a still a lot of people (the kind who post on chron.com) who consider art in the public realm to be wasteful and unnecessary. I do not agree. Clearly you don't either. :)

Oh, I saw those posts on chron.com. Hicks, I say. Pure-dee hicks. ITLers like our art.

And your professor would have been correct in '83. We've come a long way, Baby.

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Wow, every single comment on that Chron article is incredibly hostile towards the idea of the city building a pedestrian bridge.

Hah, the millions of people that live in the suburbs or exurbs don't understand. Those of us that live in the area know that this is very much needed for the future and will be used a lot--especially given the future for development in the area for both sides of the Bayou.

Also remember that reading online comments to articles (at least for chron.com) will make you want to jump off of a cliff. There are few things that I've found more depressing in my day-to-day life than reading those comments sections.

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I think it should be a rope and plank bridge, all natural. Like in Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom. I mean, there are already some gators down there, so it's exactly the same.

"Go ahead Dr. Jones...drop them! They will be found. You won't!!"

Yeah! Then they could throw in a couple of rotten planks here and there for some real excitement, then give it a name like "Passable Bridge". Where were we during this competition?

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are there any updates on this? My guess is it won't come to fruition until long after we leave the area, but I'm still curious.

I know people do it, but I'm not comfortable pushing our stroller across the bridge at studemont because it seems like it would be hard for cyclists, joggers and dogs to get around without going into traffic.

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