Houston Farmers Market At 2520 Airline Dr.

[s3mh]

http://www.chron.com/business/real-estate/article/Heights-area-farmers-market-in-deal-to-be-sold-11112989.php

 

I had heard talk that some prospective buyers were looking at closing down the market and putting in housing or retail.  So, this is good news.  But it will be very tricky to balance the old and the new.  If you push to hard to upgrade, all the vendors will bolt and set up shop at a flea market north of 610.  If you do not do enough, any new vendors will have trouble surviving.  It would be nice to see Airline Seafood comeback and have a seafood counter integrated into the market.  

[Angostura]

It looks like this puts a sharper segregation between the wholesale and retail portions of the site. If this first phase is successful at turning this site into a destination, the days might be numbers for the wholesale warehouse on the north edge of the site.

[lockmat]

2 hours ago, CrockpotandGravel said:

It does look that way. I like change and this can be good, but in the back of my mind I see this will be the downfall of inexpensive produce and the charm that's part of Canino's. It will be interesting to see how this farmer's market and food hall will compare to the Heights Market going in on Old Katy Road.

 

I agree. Will rents be too high for current vendors?

[Triton]

2 hours ago, lockmat said:

 

I agree. Will rents be too high for current vendors?

 

Said they would most likely have an increase of anywhere from 5% to 10%.

[Subdude]

Note topics  merged

 

[native_Houstonian]

I just noticed that NewQuest has the old trailer park on Airline (1 block North of Canino's) up for redevelopment too.   With the redevelopment of the market and  if someone were to do something here, that would really improve that part of the Heights.

 

Almost 5 acres.   $6 million.

https://www.newquest.com/pdfs/2100_Airline_Dr.pdf

Edited January 5, 2018 by native_Houstonian

[Angostura]

Weekley Homes owns the land immediately south. Another 4 acres or so. Wouldn't be surprised to see a TH farm go in here.

[mkultra25]

4 hours ago, Angostura said:

Weekley Homes owns the land immediately south. Another 4 acres or so. Wouldn't be surprised to see a TH farm go in here.

 

 

 

[Evil Developer]

On 1/5/2018 at 2:13 PM, Angostura said:

Weekley Homes owns the land immediately south. Another 4 acres or so. Wouldn't be surprised to see a TH farm go in here.

 

issues getting tenants out is the rumor...pretty sure Weekley will buy thie mobile home park too.

[MartiMoser]

My families roots run deep in this area. 1935-54 & shopping there after moving to Pearland. My dad grandmother & dad's younger siblings moved there in 1935. Dad was 10 & had a job on a rough ice route, he was head of household. I'm sad about the sanitization of Houston. Very sad. I know that the sellers are an association & got an offer they couldn't refuse. I'm happy for them. But I'll bet anyone here....the old vendors will not be fit into the new equation. Headline from Chronicle says it all. New owners want to keep a "bit messy", for charm I suppose. 

[native_Houstonian]

Looks awesome!  

[bobruss]

Culture map has a new animated video of this project that blows these renderings away.

Check it out.

http://houston.culturemap.com/news/restaurants-bars/02-21-18-houston-farmers-market-mlb-capital-partners-rendering-animation-video/

[MartiMoser]

I really do appreciate the feedback & I know that time marches on & I spoke to Alfred Froberg who's part of the association. They simply got the proverbial "Offer they couldn't refuse". I don't blame them one bit. My point was Houston developers who are tearing down everything historic in lieu of progress. 

If it weren't for architects & builders, I would have gone hungry. 

My dad was vice-president of a large wholesale building material business from the late 50s-70s. He was partnered with C. E. Kings's son, W.K. "Buck" King. 

Builder's Hardware, Inc @ 5101 Holmes Rd & later 5101 South Loop East. They sold everything but lumber, brick & concrete.  Just wish a few things could stay put ❤

[Specwriter]

I just watched the video. Very nice and eerily realistic (except all the people seem to Anglo and nothing else). I do wonder why "caninos" (first letter not capitalized) is on the gable end of one pavilion. Is the family still involved? Where naming rights sold with the land? Keeping that bit of tradition does not upset me though. I like it

 

One thing I will bring up, since I'm on a grammar tear today, is the signage at what must be the main entry and which reads "HOUSTON FARMER'S MARKET." Why is the possessive of FARMER'S singular and not plural, i.e., FARMERS' ? Is there only one farmer?  

[mkultra25]

38 minutes ago, Specwriter said:

One thing I will bring up, since I'm on a grammar tear today, is the signage at what must be the main entry and which reads "HOUSTON FARMER'S MARKET." Why is the possessive of FARMER'S singular and not plural, i.e., FARMERS' ? Is there only one farmer?  

 

I admire anyone who calls out a glaring failure to properly distinguish between the plural and the possessive, as it's a topic I've been known to rant about when presented with an opportunity to do so. But I'm afraid it's become an exercise in futility, as folks are likely to glance up from their glowing rectangles of despair just long enough to associate us with the "old man yells at cloud" meme before returning to haphazardly dispensing apostrophes (or ignoring them altogether). 

[mollusk]

The Oatmeal is helpful on this... http://theoatmeal.com/comics/apostrophe

[Specwriter]

2 hours ago, mkultra25 said:

 

I admire anyone who calls out a glaring failure to properly distinguish between the plural and the possessive, as it's a topic I've been known to rant about when presented with an opportunity to do so. But I'm afraid it's become an exercise in futility, as folks are likely to glance up from their glowing rectangles of despair just long enough to associate us with the "old man yells at cloud" meme before returning to haphazardly dispensing apostrophes (or ignoring them altogether). 

 

Old man yelling at the clouds - that's me. I come by my fixation on grammar and punctuation honestly; I had the "meanest" English teachers in school you could imagine. 

 

In this case I think it was just carelessness but really! The error I find most frustrating is not only the misuse but misunderstanding of "its," a possessive without the apostrophe and "it's" the contraction of "it is." That is closely followed by the use of "their" as the singular third person possessive instead of "his" or "her" but I've pretty much given up on that one.

[bobruss]

6 hours ago, CrockpotandGravel said:

I see you didn't read the rest of the thread where the exact video was published by Houston Business Journal Tuesday. It's several posts above yours here, posted by me Tuesday:

Also those renderings in the posts above yours are from this week and ARE SCREENSHOTS FROM THE VIDEO, the exact video from CultureMap, first published on Houston Business Journal, the Houston Chronicle, and then CultureMap days later after the other two sites. I wrote in each post above that the renderings I posted this week are screenshots from the video, which was also attached to each post that had screenshots of the renderings showing different sections of the market. Not certain how you missed that.

Really? 

This isn't some kind of contest for me, but  I assure you I'll be much more careful not to miss any of your posts.

By the way,  you seem a little too worked up over this, 

I'd say relax.

I can't keep up with all of your posts.

[MartiMoser]

On 7/20/2017 at 8:24 AM, Angostura said:

It looks like thisper segregation between the wholesale and retail portions of site. If this first phase is successful at turning this site into a de.

 

[Materene]

Remember the market from many decades ago, in the fifties the market was always on my families shopping list.  We still had a mule drawn produce wagon in the Heights circa 1956 that would cover the entire area.  An old Black man must have been in his 80s and I suppose the man did this until he finally died.  Really was pretty quiet and peaceful back in the day.  Of course most homes already had fruit trees in their backyards, it was just something that survived the old depression era where people had to grow their own things.  Our old place had an apple tree, fig trees, and plums not to forget the large Pecan trees which by the way are still there on the property.  Its nice to look at the old place and it still survives and especially the tall Pecan in the front yard.  I can remember my Grandmother using a very long cane fishing pole and burning out the worm nest up high in that Pecan tree.  My last time to visit that market mentioned in the post was way back in 67 and I was home one weekend on leave from the Army while stationed in the Dallas Fort Worth Air Defense, I tried to drive home every weekend I could and one trip I went to the market to get a few things, can't remember the details it was a long time ago and of course looked a lot different than it does today with so many changes over the decades.

[MartiMoser]

Materene, 

Thank you for your memories. Today is my dad's 93rd heavenly birthday. He was10 yrs old when he, my grandmother& two younger siblings came to Airline Drive in 1935. He had an ice route at this young age to support his mother & the babies. Epitome of a Houston success story. No education to speak of he became a successful business owner in Houston. The memories I have of Airline Drive & Farmers Market are rich & filled with love. From his little brother Ronny boxing with one of the Elizondo brothers, to walking in on a Saturday & receiving a warm hug and a piece of dulce from Mr. Canino, I'll never forget. Thank you again. They survived & thrived in this color blind life. Happy birthday daddy. I'll never forget our Saturday adventures. In reference to the trees heavy laden with God's bounty, we had that too. Our ancestors were amazing with their ability to plant a seed or seedling & we are still enjoying the bounty of their work. Not to sound crass, but my father would say of my Granny, "She could make chicken salad out of chicken shit". Only a hungry child of the depression could mean it as a compliment & our sweet Granny took it as such. They began their journey here living in the back of a box truck. If I am 1/10 the person my ancestors were, I consider myself accomplished. 

[j_cuevas713]

On 2/28/2018 at 4:35 PM, MartiMoser said:

Materene, 

Thank you for your memories. Today is my dad's 93rd heavenly birthday. He was10 yrs old when he, my grandmother& two younger siblings came to Airline Drive in 1935. He had an ice route at this young age to support his mother & the babies. Epitome of a Houston success story. No education to speak of he became a successful business owner in Houston. The memories I have of Airline Drive & Farmers Market are rich & filled with love. From his little brother Ronny boxing with one of the Elizondo brothers, to walking in on a Saturday & receiving a warm hug and a piece of dulce from Mr. Canino, I'll never forget. Thank you again. They survived & thrived in this color blind life. Happy birthday daddy. I'll never forget our Saturday adventures. In reference to the trees heavy laden with God's bounty, we had that too. Our ancestors were amazing with their ability to plant a seed or seedling & we are still enjoying the bounty of their work. Not to sound crass, but my father would say of my Granny, "She could make chicken salad out of chicken shit". Only a hungry child of the depression could mean it as a compliment & our sweet Granny took it as such. They began their journey here living in the back of a box truck. If I am 1/10 the person my ancestors were, I consider myself accomplished. 

That's awesome

[native_Houstonian]

Posted on Sunday by PaperCity magazine.  No new info, really.  Does give a timeline of 3 years - not sure if that was mentioned before or not.

 

https://www.papercitymag.com/restaurants/houston-farmers-market-finally-world-class-own-pike-place-market-mlb-capital-todd-mason/

[native_Houstonian]

Well, those Paper City ba**ards!   I was looking for a date and didn't find one!! 

[MartiMoser]

I'm going to sound like an ignorant b**tch (wasn't aware til now we can asterisk cuss), but tell me please what the significance of garnering the most likes, loves & shares? Are there money prizes, gift cards or what? Been left in the dark on both... asterisk cuss & king or queen of likes. 

[s3mh]

8 hours ago, MartiMoser said:

I'm going to sound like an ignorant b**tch (wasn't aware til now we can asterisk cuss), but tell me please what the significance of garnering the most likes, loves & shares? Are there money prizes, gift cards or what? Been left in the dark on both... asterisk cuss & king or queen of likes. 

 

It is how the new media landscape works (sort of).  In the olden days, magazines and newspapers would get more for their ad space based on their circulation numbers.  Now, online publications try to get more money for their ad space by tracking social media activity.  So, instead of circulation numbers and numbers of subscribers, online media companies boast about the number of times their content is shared/liked on facebook, twitter, etc.  

[MartiMoser]

On 6/8/2018 at 11:08 AM, s3mh said:

 

It is how the new media landscape works (sort of).  In the olden days, magazines and newspapers would get more for their ad space based on their circulation numbers.  Now, online publications try to get more money for their ad space by tracking social media activity.  So, instead of circulation numbers and numbers of subscribers, online media companies boast about the number of times their content is shared/liked on facebook, twitter, etc.  

Sooo, 

Being the "A" Type competitive Leo, I believe I'll be wearing the winner crown in no time. 

[MartiMoser]

On 2/24/2018 at 1:51 PM, Specwriter said:

I just watched the video. Very nice and eerily realistic (except all the people seem to Anglo and nothing else). I do wonder why "caninos" (first letter not capitalized) is on the gable end of one pavilion. Is the family still involved? Where naming rights sold with the land? Keeping that bit of tradition does not upset me though. I like it

 

One thing I will bring up, since I'm on a grammar tear today, is the signage at what must be the main entry and which reads "HOUSTON FARMER'S MARKET." Why is the possessive of FARMER'S singular and not plural, i.e., FARMERS' ? Is there only one farmer?  

I'm pretty sure they were hustling their a*ses off peddling produce & didn't get too involved in the punctuation & grammar. There may also be a few participles dangling in the weekly circulars. 

[Specwriter]

4 hours ago, MartiMoser said:

I'm pretty sure they were hustling their a*ses off peddling produce & didn't get too involved in the punctuation & grammar. There may also be a few participles dangling in the weekly circulars. 

I like your comment (and I officially "liked" it as well ) but I wasn't referring to the people creating the flyers. The person or persons who created the rendering are most likely educated architects or graphic designers and should know how to write the plural possessive. Anyway, this looks like a great project. I hope it will be seen as Houston's version of the Reading Terminal Market in Philadelphia.

[MartiMoser]

4 hours ago, Specwriter said:

I like your comment (and I officially "liked" it as well ) but I wasn't referring to the people creating the flyers. The person or persons who created the rendering are most likely educated architects or graphic designers and should know how to write the plural possessive. Anyway, this looks like a great project. I hope it will be seen as Houston's version of the Reading Terminal Market in Philadelphia.

I popped off before I did my do diligence. My mistake. I saw on the image of the original entrance it had Canino... everything correct. Then I read a couple of the members posts and saw what you meant. 

I am the 9 month younger cousin of a previous Head of English Department at Austin High School in HISD. She felt very fortunate to have the hungry for knowledge, brilliant students in her classes.  She now teaches, what I call "The Incorrigible Crowd" in a Pearland ISD school.   I digress, but trying to describe my tough, meticulous red head white girl from Denver Harbor.

We played school VERY early in our childhood. She taught and I was critiqued...alot. I learned to read and write before I started school and a very top hand in spelling and grammar. If I slip she corrects me on Facebook. I'm 60 & don't care. As usual though, I thank her and edit the post. 

[Specwriter]

6 hours ago, MartiMoser said:

I popped off before I did my do diligence. My mistake. I saw on the image of the original entrance it had Canino... everything correct. Then I read a couple of the members posts and saw what you meant. 

I am the 9 month younger cousin of a previous Head of English Department at Austin High School in HISD. She felt very fortunate to have the hungry for knowledge, brilliant students in her classes.  She now teaches, what I call "The Incorrigible Crowd" in a Pearland ISD school.   I digress, but trying to describe my tough, meticulous red head white girl from Denver Harbor.

We played school VERY early in our childhood. She taught and I was critiqued...alot. I learned to read and write before I started school and a very top hand in spelling and grammar. If I slip she corrects me on Facebook. I'm 60 & don't care. As usual though, I thank her and edit the post. 

That's great, MartiMoser. I guess once a teacher, always a teacher. There have been several in my family going back to my great grandmother's sister. My own sister retired at the end of the 2016-2017 school year after 26 years on the job. This past year she has done quite a bit of substitute teaching!

 

I was in Aldine schools in the 1960's - 1970's. Then Aldine was in the process of shedding its 'country' image. I was fortunate to attend during what I consider the golden era of the school district. Our English teachers from junior high on demanded the best from us. That said, those teachers were also most willing to give their best as well. I was in that group who hungered for knowledge. Looking back 40+ years later I am most appreciative of my teachers' dedication and the sense of personal accomplishment for its own sake my parents instilled in me.

 

Getting back to Canino's (singular possessive ), I was there 34 years ago last Saturday (which was also a Saturday - June 2, 1984) picking up fresh fruit for my wedding reception which was held that same afternoon. The caterer was a personal friend of the family. Her wedding gift was to cater the reception so I was most happy to help her out. Among the many, many, visits I've made to the farmers' market, that one will remain the most memorable.

 

Oh yes, I am still married to the same brilliant, beautiful woman. We will celebrate our anniversary with a trip to New England later this month. What could be more romantic than getting away from the Houston heat and humidity. 

[MartiMoser]

On 6/10/2018 at 9:18 AM, Specwriter said:

That's great, MartiMoser. I guess once a teacher, always a teacher. There have been several in my family going back to my great grandmother's sister. My own sister retired at the end of the 2016-2017 school year after 26 years on the job. This past year she has done quite a bit of substitute teaching!

 

I was in Aldine schools in the 1960's - 1970's. Then Aldine was in the process of shedding its 'country' image. I was fortunate to attend during what I consider the golden era of the school district. Our English teachers from junior high on demanded the best from us. That said, those teachers were also most willing to give their best as well. I was in that group who hungered for knowledge. Looking back 40+ years later I am most appreciative of my teachers' dedication and the sense of personal accomplishment for its own sake my parents instilled in me.

 

Getting back to Canino's (singular possessive ), I was there 34 years ago last Saturday (which was also a Saturday - June 2, 1984) picking up fresh fruit for my wedding reception which was held that same afternoon. The caterer was a personal friend of the family. Her wedding gift was to cater the reception so I was most happy to help her out. Among the many, many, visits I've made to the farmers' market, that one will remain the most memorable.

 

Oh yes, I am still married to the same brilliant, beautiful woman. We will celebrate our anniversary with a trip to New England later this month. What could be more romantic than getting away from the Houston heat and humidity. 

First, let me say Happy Anniversary!  

First topic at hand would be de-countryfying (is it un or de) (is contryfying even a word? If not, it is now)

I was 2 yrs old when we moved outside the city limits of Pearland in June of 1960. The census was 1,700.00.  Mama & Daddy bought 5 acres with 3 barns & a home. $16,000.00. Pearland is headed to toward the 2020 census predicting close to 170,000 citizens. We live in Manvel & it was very country in the 70's. Now we have folks coming to live in the country, but they don't like the "inconvenience" of our damn slow trucks & the quaint tractors going up & down the road at a snail's pace. They've got a latte with their name on it By God!  Sorry. How dare they feed your beef and grow your veggies. Bunch of rubes.

[LBC2HTX]

6 hours ago, CrockpotandGravel said:

Does the redevelopment of Canino Farmers Market, 2520 Airline Dr,  mean the name will change?

There is a website for the redeveloped farmers market with a new name and logo. The name is Houston Farmers Market. The new name erases traces of Canino and the Hispanic influence and culture that has been the cornerstone of this market for decades. My white people and their whitewashing, gentrifying ways.


https://thehoustonfarmersmarket.com

Come on man... The first thing I see on the website is a list of all the Hispanic merchants, including Caninos. The rendering shows "Caninos" to the right of the "Houston Farmers Market" entrance. Moreover, the website mention Caninos in several places, including this article https://thehoustonfarmersmarket.com/2017/12/houstons-oldest-largest-farmers-market-to-get-major-overhaul/

 

Quote

“It’s time,” said Bill Canino, owner of Canino’s Produce at the front of the farmer’s market. “It’s been left alone to progress on its own for too many years.”

Canino’s dad opened up Canino’s Produce in 1958, selling fruit and vegetables from some 75 farmers in Harris and surrounding counties. Now, there are only about 30 local farmers left.

“Most of the people have gotten older and passed away,” Canino explained.

Canino’s section of the farmer’s market takes up the front, a space he leases. His store looks just as it did in the ’70s. About the only visual difference you see when comparing old photos of Canino’s to the store today are the prices. Tomatoes were 29 cents a pound in an old picture Canino guesses is from the ’70s. Today, they’re $1.29 a pound. But Canino says sales are down about 40 percent just 20 years ago.

“Most people work,” he explains. “The man and the wife works now. So they go to all these restaurants and fast food places… and they don’t stay home and cook.”

Canino says he’ll continue to rent his space from the new owners and not much will change with his business. He says the outside market in the back, where vendors operate more flea market than farmers market, will be reinvented to make way for restaurants, a seafood market, a cheese shop and a space for cooking shows. No one at MLB Capital Partners would talk with KPRC for this story; but they said we can expect the first big announcement about plans for the market sometime in July. We will keep you posted.

 

 

[Specwriter]

19 hours ago, MartiMoser said:

I was 2 yrs old when we moved outside the city limits of Pearland in June of 1960. The census was 1,700.00.  Mama & Daddy bought 5 acres with 3 barns & a home. $16,000.00. Pearland is headed to toward the 2020 census predicting close to 170,000 citizens. We live in Manvel & it was very country in the 70's. Now we have folks coming to live in the country, but they don't like the "inconvenience" of our damn slow trucks & the quaint tractors going up & down the road at a snail's pace. They've got a latte with their name on it By God!  Sorry. How dare they feed your beef and grow your veggies. Bunch of rubes.

There's nothing wrong with being 'country' in my book. What I meant was Aldine was in the process of ensuring its students were well prepared for college or the work world when they graduated. One rumor (possibly apocryphal) was that one had to have a 'B' average from an Aldine school back in the 1950s to be considered for admission to the U of H when a 'C' average from most other Houston area schools was acceptable. When I started college in the late 1970s I was as well prepared as many of my counterparts who attended private college prep schools.

 

I agree, MartiMoser, if someone wants to enjoy the peace and quiet of the rural life one must expect to forego some of the "conveniences" of the big city. One really cannot have it both ways.

[Specwriter]

I believe Canino is an Italian name. There were many Italians who settled in that area and who were truck farmers (grew vegetables which they sold at market). There were also some Japanese families that settled in the area and were farmers. Two names I recall are Io and Okabayashi.

[HouKev]

9 hours ago, CrockpotandGravel said:

Does the redevelopment of Canino Farmers Market, 2520 Airline Dr,  mean the name will change?

There is a website for the redeveloped farmers market with a new name and logo. The name is Houston Farmers Market. The new name erases traces of Canino and the Hispanic influence and culture that has been the cornerstone of this market for decades. My white people and their whitewashing, gentrifying ways.

https://thehoustonfarmersmarket.com

 

 

There's irony in your statement above. Canino's is an Italian name and the roots of the market are in Italian and German farmer's coming together and starting the co-op.

 

"The Airline market's shoppers and its offerings have reflected the area's changing demographics. Initially the site served the Italians, Polish, Eastern Europeans and Anglos who lived in the area. But by the 1980s, the market was catering to the Tejano, Mexican-American and Latino populations living in the Heights and Greater Northside."

 

The market is changing, just like it has before, to serve the surrounding demographics. The continued existence and growth of the market is great in my opinion and hopefully will bring more local produce back into the area and support local farmers.

 

https://www.houstonchronicle.com/local/gray-matters/article/Farmers-markets-in-Houston-A-history-11636755.php

Edited June 20, 2018 by HouKev

[s3mh]

The market was founded by and has been run continuously by the Farmers Marketing Association of Houston.  Canino's is just a tenant, albeit the most prominent and identifiable vendor.  I have heard as many people call it the "Airline Farmer's Market" as the "Houston Farmer's Market" as "Canino's".  So, I do not see this as a big name change.  Canino's will still be there.

 

I am actually not at all concerned about the upgrades.  If the new venture is going to work, they are going to have to strike a balance between the existing vendors and their clientele and the more affluent customers who will be attracted to the promised foodie stuff.  The more affluent clientele will not buy enough produce every week to support the produce vendors.  People are too dedicated to big box grocers, which are beginning to saturate the area.   And then you have people eliminating grocery shopping altogether with instacart and similar services.  As good as Urban Harvest and other small local farmer's markets are, there is only enough demand for these markets to be open one day a week.  Finally, it will not be a tourist trap like Pike's Place market with people moving through shoulder to shoulder all day long.  Thus, the farmer's market cannot rely on upper income earners to sustain the produce market.  They will have to keep the existing Spanish speaking and lower and middle income clientele if they want to have enough business to keep the produce market open daily.  Hopefully, there will be enough increased demand from upper income clientele to offset the rent increases.

 

Hopefully, it will be a win win.  As lively as it is, the current market is in terrible condition.  If you park anywhere other than right in front of Canino's you take your life into your own hands trying to cross through the parking lot by the security guard's post.  And you buy your kids a mango flower, but there is absolutely no where to sit and eat.  And without the new money coming in, odds were pretty good that they would just have to sell and not be able to reopen anywhere.  

 

 

[MartiMoser]

11 hours ago, Specwriter said:

There's nothing wrong with being 'country' in my book. What I meant was Aldine was in the process of ensuring its students were well prepared for college or the work world when they graduated. One rumor (possibly apocryphal) was that one had to have a 'B' average from an Aldine school back in the 1950s to be considered for admission to the U of H when a 'C' average from most other Houston area schools was acceptable. When I started college in the late 1970s I was as well prepared as many of my counterparts who attended private college prep schools.

 

I agree, MartiMoser, if someone wants to enjoy the peace and quiet of the rural life one must expect to forego some of the "conveniences" of the big city. One really cannot have it both ways.

Our main thoroughfare is FM1128 (Masters Rd). It was dirt road when my husband moved to this property. It is still a 2 lane road, but it's the back road shortcut for Medical Center, Midtown and beyond. It is also the favorite of bicyclers on weekends. None of the above is a bother. I just have one itch to scratch. It is a very young adult male on a Japanese motorcycle that apparently only has 2 notches on the speedometer. Stop & 120 mph. You literally don't hear him coming until he's here. It sounds exactly like a Formula1 Ferrari. I wasn't going to do anything about it, I'd mulled it over, his business, none of mine, etc. But I've decided to do the correct thing & speak to someone at the police department. I am saving his life, not tattling. I would hope a stranger would do the same for my children. With all the unbelievable lunacy coming from the shining house in the East, I'm not going to change who I am as a person. That is a mother, wife, daughter, sister & good citizen of this country. Nobody will make me cower. Nobody.

[innerloop]

19 hours ago, s3mh said:

I have heard as many people call it the "Airline Farmer's Market" as the "Houston Farmer's Market" as "Canino's".  So, I do not see this as a big name change.  Canino's will still be there.

 

 

 

I think the Houston Farmer's Market is a bad name from a Marketing perspective.  Houston is a huge sprawling place so "Houston Farmer's Market" lacks specificity.  We're already seeing lost tourists in the Heights on Saturday mornings stopping to ask directions to "the farmer's market" that they've heard about, but they don't know which of the many different one's they're really looking for.  It could be Canino's or many times it's one of the many small collections of individuals at places like Onion Creek, etc.

 

Retaining Airline or Canino's in the name would help them stand out from the rest.

    

[MartiMoser]

On 6/21/2018 at 7:29 AM, innerloop said:

 

I think the Houston Farmer's Market is a bad name from a Marketing perspective.  Houston is a huge sprawling place so "Houston Farmer's Market" lacks specificity.  We're already seeing lost tourists in the Heights on Saturday mornings stopping to ask directions to "the farmer's market" that they've heard about, but they don't know which of the many different one's they're really looking for.  It could be Canino's or many times it's one of the many small collections of individuals at places like Onion Creek, etc.

 

Retaining Airline or Canino's in the name would help them stand out from the rest.

    

Correct. We went 2 places for produce  on Saturday mornings...Farmers Market or Produce Row. We knew both clans but I don't ever remember saying Caninos or Elizondo Brothers. 

[HoustonMidtown]

Channel 13 just did a story about Caninos - they are closing in January - the owners are retiring

[MartiMoser]

On 6/20/2018 at 11:41 AM, s3mh said:

The market was founded by and has been run continuously by the Farmers Marketing Association of Houston.  Canino's is just a tenant, albeit the most prominent and identifiable vendor.  I have heard as many people call it the "Airline Farmer's Market" as the "Houston Farmer's Market" as "Canino's".  So, I do not see this as a big name change.  Canino's will still be there.

 

I am actually not at all concerned about the upgrades.  If the new venture is going to work, they are going to have to strike a balance between the existing vendors and their clientele and the more affluent customers who will be attracted to the promised foodie stuff.  The more affluent clientele will not buy enough produce every week to support the produce vendors.  People are too dedicated to big box grocers, which are beginning to saturate the area.   And then you have people eliminating grocery shopping altogether with instacart and similar services.  As good as Urban Harvest and other small local farmer's markets are, there is only enough demand for these markets to be open one day a week.  Finally, it will not be a tourist trap like Pike's Place market with people moving through shoulder to shoulder all day long.  Thus, the farmer's market cannot rely on upper income earners to sustain the produce market.  They will have to keep the existing Spanish speaking and lower and middle income clientele if they want to have enough business to keep the produce market open daily.  Hopefully, there will be enough increased demand from upper income clientele to offset the rent increases.

 

Hopefully, it will be a win win.  As lively as it is, the current market is in terrible condition.  If you park anywhere other than right in front of Canino's you take your life into your own hands trying to cross through the parking lot by the security guard's post.  And you buy your kids a mango flower, but there is absolutely no where to sit and eat.  And without the new money coming in, odds were pretty good that they would just have to sell and not be able to reopen anywhere.  

The Canino family are most certainly a part of the association as well as The Froberg family. If a Canino market or space is part of the new plans, it will not be the Canino family. He stated he was retiring. His children  have are all white collar, college educated attorneys, doctors & at least one dentist in the family. They simply aren't going to be taking over.  

 

On 6/20/2018 at 11:41 AM, s3mh said:

 

 

On 6/20/2018 at 11:41 AM, s3mh said:

 

 

 

[HoustonMidtown]

https://www.click2houston.com/news/this-is-why-beloved-heights-canino-produce-is-closing

[HoustonMidtown]

New Tenant for Canino's - Junior's Produce

 

https://www.chron.com/business/real-estate/article/New-tenant-named-for-former-Canino-s-space-in-13594402.php?utm_campaign=twitter

Edited February 6, 2019 by HoustonMidtown

[cougarpad]

I have not seen any updates on the timetable for the renovations to start. Once they bring in a baker, butcher, and fish vendor the marker will be in great shape. I will definitely drive from the other side of Houston to visit. Take a cooler with me and load it up.

[Specwriter]

I wonder if Junior's will have samples. I know, that is awful but I couldn't help myself.

[Luminare]

On 8/7/2019 at 2:15 AM, CrockpotandGravel said:

Updated renderings of Houston Farmers Market at 2520 Airline Dr,.

(Previous renderings here , here, here, here , and here)



Renderings found in Houston Business Journal and CultureMap articles.


Entrance




Produce market




Alley




View of courtyard from a restaurant




Courtyard





Inside a cafe or restaurant






 

 

Great update. Don't forget about these guys working on the project:

 

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Other participants in the project include landscape architecture firm Clark Condon Associates, Studio RED Architects, Houston-based consulting firm Gunda Corporation, and Arch-Con Construction.

 

Glad this got started. While hiking around the entire neighborhood, I reached Airline Dr, and saw nothing but potential. This area has a lot of opportunities to really take off at some point.

[j_cuevas713]

I live right off W Cavalcade where those new apartments are going up. I’m so excited to see this development finally happen. In time I hope there are future plans to make 20th/W Cavalcade more pedestrian friendly. 

[Luminare]

8 hours ago, j_cuevas713 said:

I live right off W Cavalcade where those new apartments are going up. I’m so excited to see this development finally happen. In time I hope there are future plans to make 20th/W Cavalcade more pedestrian friendly. 

 

One of my big hopes is that someday they will reconstruct that crazy intersection of 20th, Cavalcade, N Main, and Studewood into an awesome big roundabout, and maybe with a cool art installation or monument. One can dream though, right?

Edited August 8, 2019 by Luminare

[Texasota]

20th/Cavalcade is (I believe) on the bike plan. Putting in real bike lanes will help - maybe it'll even get fancy floating bus stops and protected bulb-outs at the intersections...