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Buildout and completed progress of Finn Hall food hall in downtown Houston, 712 Main.

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Sparrow's Nest at Finn Hall food hall in downtown Houston, 712 Main

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Yong food stall restaurant at Finn Hall food hall in downtown Houston, 712 Main.
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I made a lunch excursion there today, and got an oyster poboy from Low Tide.  For its first day being open and the place being totally slammed it's pretty OK - the oysters were a bit hammered, but I mark that up to being a lower volume item on opening day.  Sit Low's plates looked awesome; Nice Pie was the only place not serving yet.

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56 minutes ago, Naviguessor said:

LOL.  Where have any of these places even been rated?  They've been open for 2 days. 

Keep on keepin' on, Vy. 

 

That guy is the dictionary definition of a troll :lol:

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I'm a troll because I'm not rah thousand dollarsing rah about a glorified food court? 

 

I'm sorry my honesty offends you so much Cap.

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Vy65, *why* did you think it was overpriced and overrated? Which vendors did you try? What was your criticism? Were the prices high for the amount of food, or compared to similar businesses elsewhere in the city? Were there issues with preparation - were things over or under-cooked? 

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14 hours ago, Vy65 said:

I'm a troll because I'm not rah thousand dollarsing rah about a glorified food court? 

 

I'm sorry my honesty offends you so much Cap.

Well yeah it's a food hall.

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I did not find the prices to be out of line when I went there for lunch.  I enjoyed my food.

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I have yet to go, but I am excited for more food options downtown, including ice cream

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Great addition for downtown residents. We have been needing more late night food options and there is a cool bar on the second floor. Also spurring some nice foot traffic in this area after hours.

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Went last night, it is pretty great.  It is VERY different from Conservatory and I think that they will complement each other if anything.

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4 hours ago, Texasota said:

Vy65, *why* did you think it was overpriced and overrated? Which vendors did you try? What was your criticism? Were the prices high for the amount of food, or compared to similar businesses elsewhere in the city? Were there issues with preparation - were things over or under-cooked? 

 

$14 for two tacos from Goode Company is outrageous. $7 for a slice of pepperoni from Mr. Nice Pie is outrageous. I had the tacos but not the pizza since the pizza oven was down. 

 

Compared to the Tacos a Go Go location downtown, Goode Co.'s prices were nearly double for an inferior product. 

 

It's not just those two stands either. $14 for a falafel sandwich during brunch (Oddball) or $13 for a grilled tofu bowl are also ridiculous. 

 

It's a couple of bucks and ultimately not a big deal if the food were good. But the food was average and the servings were far from abundant.   

 

It's comical that whenever someone airs some criticism, the immediate reaction is to flay them as though they were some pariah. I hate to break it to the posters here, but, predictably, the experience at a glorified mall food court really is just below-average. 

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28 minutes ago, Vy65 said:

 

$14 for two tacos from Goode Company is outrageous. $7 for a slice of pepperoni from Mr. Nice Pie is outrageous. I had the tacos but not the pizza since the pizza oven was down. 

 

Compared to the Tacos a Go Go location downtown, Goode Co.'s prices were nearly double for an inferior product. 

 

It's not just those two stands either. $14 for a falafel sandwich during brunch (Oddball) or $13 for a grilled tofu bowl are also ridiculous. 

 

It's a couple of bucks and ultimately not a big deal if the food were good. But the food was average and the servings were far from abundant.   

 

It's comical that whenever someone airs some criticism, the immediate reaction is to flay them as though they were some pariah. I hate to break it to the posters here, but, predictably, the experience at a glorified mall food court really is just below-average. 

 

YEESH.

 

People are still going to have food delivered if the prices are that high. 

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I peeked in for a look around lunchtime.  Didn't stay for anything to eat, but wow.  It's a great looking space completely unique in downtown (so far). Lot's of energy and the pictures don't do it justice. Great amenity for both downtown workers and residents.  Looking forward to some late nite Mala Schezuan soon.

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On 12/5/2018 at 11:31 AM, Vy65 said:

 

$14 for two tacos from Goode Company is outrageous. $7 for a slice of pepperoni from Mr. Nice Pie is outrageous. I had the tacos but not the pizza since the pizza oven was down. 

 

Compared to the Tacos a Go Go location downtown, Goode Co.'s prices were nearly double for an inferior product. 

 

It's not just those two stands either. $14 for a falafel sandwich during brunch (Oddball) or $13 for a grilled tofu bowl are also ridiculous. 

 

It's a couple of bucks and ultimately not a big deal if the food were good. But the food was average and the servings were far from abundant.   

 

It's comical that whenever someone airs some criticism, the immediate reaction is to flay them as though they were some pariah. I hate to break it to the posters here, but, predictably, the experience at a glorified mall food court really is just below-average. 

 

I think it has to do with the locations that they are at, since I'm sure the rent prices there are high. I too was shocked when I spent $28 for Vietnamese food at Sit Lo there. That was just for a bowl of pho and "Vietnamese tots".... which really confused my Vietnamese fiance but that's another matter entirely. Overall, I think you're going to have to pay a lot more because of it's location and you can bring a large group of friends here, as I did, and they can have the option to eat whatever they want. That's another plus. The vibe and atmosphere is great too... especially the upstairs bar lounge.

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Are there any historic pictures of this space?  I went last night.  They preserved the original terrazzo and the columns appear to have the original stone.  There was also an original railing and air grate up in Swallow's Nest.  Other than that, very few historic details left.

 

I didn't pay attention to my meal price, but my friend did note her meal was $20 for a cheeseburger, onion rings, and a tea. 

 

A homeless man came in towards the end of our meal and asked if he could help clear our table.  I imagine they have some sort of control for this.  

 

Additionally, the pizza place was still closed.  Not sure what is going on there. 

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39 minutes ago, Triton said:

 

I think it has to do with the locations that they are at, since I'm sure the rent prices there are high. I too was shocked when I spent $28 for Vietnamese food at Sit Lo there. That was just for a bowl of pho and "Vietnamese tots".... which really confused my Vietnamese fiance but that's another matter entirely. Overall, I think you're going to have to pay a lot more because of it's location and you can bring a large group of friends here, as I did, and they can have the option to eat whatever they want. That's another plus. The vibe and atmosphere is great too... especially the upstairs bar lounge.

 

You may very well be right on the reason fro $28 pho (which is absurd), but the space/vibe/etc... doesn't come close to justifying the price tag. Hopefully Lyric market pans out better.

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1 hour ago, Vy65 said:

 

doesn't come close to justifying the price tag.

 

I think that's a fair argument, really. It was a bit of a turn off for my fiance, but I still want to come back and try the other food.

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A fair argument for sure. A lot of it does come down to location and convenience, but at the end of the day, the only way these food venues can do business is if customers value the food more than they value their money. Time will only tell how successful Finn is.

 

I'll have to swing by sometime this weekend and see for myself.  

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On 12/5/2018 at 11:31 AM, Vy65 said:

 

$14 for two tacos from Goode Company is outrageous. $7 for a slice of pepperoni from Mr. Nice Pie is outrageous. I had the tacos but not the pizza since the pizza oven was down. 

 

Compared to the Tacos a Go Go location downtown, Goode Co.'s prices were nearly double for an inferior product. 

 

It's not just those two stands either. $14 for a falafel sandwich during brunch (Oddball) or $13 for a grilled tofu bowl are also ridiculous. 

 

It's a couple of bucks and ultimately not a big deal if the food were good. But the food was average and the servings were far from abundant.   

 

It's comical that whenever someone airs some criticism, the immediate reaction is to flay them as though they were some pariah. I hate to break it to the posters here, but, predictably, the experience at a glorified mall food court really is just below-average. 

 

Its not that you are being called out for being critical, its that your criticism seems misplaced, and I would say bordering on arrogance. It just comes off as if you are the only client they need to please to be successful, or how dare they cater to a clientele/lifestyle that isn't your own, or how dare they price a taco when you know it should be priced by your subjective standard. I wonder if you went to a McDonald's and you would grade the place the same as a high end fancy restaurant. We also have no clue who you are or what the context was, etc... Not to mention you kind of have a rep of being a bit hyperbolic on this forum. Excuse people for maybe not taking you a bit seriously.

 

I don't know why you or some people are surprised. Just look at the interiors. Look at the building it is in and the locale. Notice the scarcity of options around it. Notice it's one of kind in some aspects. Look at the hipsterish names for each place. If it were a rattlesnake it would have bit you in the rear and stole your overpriced food at the same time! It was destined to be exactly what you are saying. My reaction to when I first read your post was "gee how perceptive of you. *sarcasm*" Its clearly catered to high-rise living downtown dwellers that have some bucks to throw around, or your in-town suburbanites looking to have a big night on the town. Its not trying to compete with areas around it. Instead its trying to compete with Uptown.

 

You might be right on the prices or the quality of the food (haven't been yet), but you are being a bit of a Captain Obvious with a slight bout of rage. Let people pay what they want to pay and let it play itself out or people will leave and it fails. I hope it doesn't though. I'm always on the side of more development, more new things, and in general more success for the city whether its for my lifestyle or others. 

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Sorry to hurt your feelings bro. I won’t mock the overpriced, underwhelming tacos at the glorified mall food court. You clearly need this so go ahead and die on that hill.

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37 minutes ago, Vy65 said:

Sorry to hurt your feelings bro. I won’t mock the overpriced, underwhelming tacos at the glorified mall food court. You clearly need this so go ahead and die on that hill.

 

At least the "overpriced, underwhelming tacos" have economic value and are in demand. As for you? I'm not so sure.

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lol holy moly guys, let's get some holiday spirit and enjoy each other's company! No reason a forum for people who love architecture and their city needs to be so sinister...

 

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There are cheaper options out there to be sure, but not as many as there used to be. There are $11 grilled chicken salads for takeout in the tunnels. 

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I get that everyone wishes the place was cheaper. The reality is that right next door there is a hotel with out of towners who will gladly pay that simply because of the experience. I went this past wknd and I honestly don't see this place slowing down. Not to mention that the other food halls being built are going to be really popular. Downtown has an energy about it now that it never had before. Pretty exciting. 

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Went again today during lunch.  Place was so packed it was hard to find room to stand.  I think that they will be fine.  It was awesome again btw.

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I've been twice in the past week and went to Craft Burger and Sit Lo. The prices are a little higher as mentioned before but I love this place! I'll definitely be going back often. Excellent addition to downtown in a great location.

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Went today.  Place was packed at 1 pm.  I liked it.  Good crowd.  Mostly 20-and-30-ish folks.  Good beer .  Good food.  Good crowd.  So far, a success, it seems.

On 12/13/2018 at 2:14 PM, Nate99 said:

There are cheaper options out there to be sure, but not as many as there used to be. There are $11 grilled chicken salads for takeout in the tunnels. 

True.

 

and even la Calle — the best joint in town - I think, may have raised prices a bit.

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On 12/13/2018 at 3:59 PM, Nole23 said:

I've been twice in the past week and went to Craft Burger and Sit Lo. The prices are a little higher as mentioned before but I love this place! I'll definitely be going back often. Excellent addition to downtown in a great location.

Agreed.

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On 12/13/2018 at 2:40 PM, j_cuevas713 said:

I get that everyone wishes the place was cheaper. The reality is that right next door there is a hotel with out of towners who will gladly pay that simply because of the experience. I went this past wknd and I honestly don't see this place slowing down. Not to mention that the other food halls being built are going to be really popular. Downtown has an energy about it now that it never had before. Pretty exciting. 

 

Definitely agree. I'm looking forward to stopping by at some point. I was on Main Street Friday night, and its amazing right now. It feels like a busy bustling city when I'm down there. Looking forward to more of downtown and other places getting this kind of activity.

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Just now, Luminare said:

 

Definitely agree. I'm looking forward to stopping by at some point. I was on Main Street Friday night, and its amazing right now. It feels like a busy bustling city when I'm down there. Looking forward to more of downtown and other places getting this kind of activity.

Hell yeah! And we aren't even close to downtown becoming what it needs to be. 

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On 12/17/2018 at 1:07 PM, Luminare said:

 

Definitely agree. I'm looking forward to stopping by at some point. I was on Main Street Friday night, and its amazing right now. It feels like a busy bustling city when I'm down there. Looking forward to more of downtown and other places getting this kind of activity.

Yea downtown is amazing right now. Took a date to the Nutcracker on Friday and there were tons of people walking around the theater district and then we ventured over to a few bars on Main street and it was packed as well. Downtown is definitely moving in the right direction. Exciting times.

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Nice to read these comments, I haven't made it downtown since last April (I don't live in Houston) but it was better then than I'd ever seen it. I wonder at what point we start getting some physical (non-food) retail along Main Street? I imagine retailers are waiting to see if GreenStreet can be successful.

 

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i stopped by the crow's nest at Finn Hall last week and was pleasantly surprised at how many people were there, particularly given the terrible weather we were having. i will say i though the bar lacked a little charm and the bartending definitely needed some improvement but overall it was enjoyable. Finn Hall itself was fairly crowded for an off hour so i can only imagine how busy it gets during lunch. lots of great options.

 

i really REALLY want them to do something grand with the Chase Bank lobby... that's the single grandest space in all of Houston and it would be great to see something other than a bank occupy that space.

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1 hour ago, swtsig said:

i stopped by the crow's nest at Finn Hall last week and was pleasantly surprised at how many people were there, particularly given the terrible weather we were having. i will say i though the bar lacked a little charm and the bartending definitely needed some improvement but overall it was enjoyable. Finn Hall itself was fairly crowded for an off hour so i can only imagine how busy it gets during lunch. lots of great options.

 

i really REALLY want them to do something grand with the Chase Bank lobby... that's the single grandest space in all of Houston and it would be great to see something other than a bank occupy that space.

 

It gets insanely packed during lunch at this point.  Agree on the general lack of charm Sparrow's (?) nest.  Wouldn't go just for the bar but the food options will keep me there regularly.

 

That lobby is phenomenal.  When I first say Denver's conversion of their Union Station, I thought about what we could do here.  With Finn already done, this lobby could be an amazing extension of some sort.

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On ‎12‎/‎19‎/‎2018 at 11:32 AM, swtsig said:

i really REALLY want them to do something grand with the Chase Bank lobby... that's the single grandest space in all of Houston and it would be great to see something other than a bank occupy that space.

 

I fully agree with you on that point. Of course, back in the day when it was built, the exchanging of money... "commerce"... was probably considered the grandest thing that could occupy such a space.

 

I have a distant cousin who worked for Texas Commerce at 712 Main for over 40 years, starting I think in 1949. He is in his 90's now and lives out in the country on the land where he was born. When I mentioned the building a few years ago, he asked me, "Is there a large portrait of Jesse Jones still hanging on the wall?" I said that there was. He said, "That was hanging there the first day I went to work."

 

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Made it there on Sunday. Nice space overall, they did a good job preserving what they could of the historic interior. Nothing jaw-dropping, just a well-done food hall. I especially liked the Sparrow's Nest bar. It has two of the original deco elevators, which the bartenders seemed excited about when I talked to them.

 

There were only a few people there but it was late Sunday afternoon. Most of central downtown was pretty dead and about half the people on Main Street were homeless. I am going to chalk this up to it being a Sunday two days before Christmas and trust that the progress I've seen in previous visits was real. Discovery Green was lively with the skating rink (I had taken my family) and when I drove through the historic district on the way out, it seemed pretty lively, west of Main.

 

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12 hours ago, H-Town Man said:

Made it there on Sunday. Nice space overall, they did a good job preserving what they could of the historic interior. Nothing jaw-dropping, just a well-done food hall. I especially liked the Sparrow's Nest bar. It has two of the original deco elevators, which the bartenders seemed excited about when I talked to them.

 

There were only a few people there but it was late Sunday afternoon. Most of central downtown was pretty dead and about half the people on Main Street were homeless. I am going to chalk this up to it being a Sunday two days before Christmas and trust that the progress I've seen in previous visits was real. Discovery Green was lively with the skating rink (I had taken my family) and when I drove through the historic district on the way out, it seemed pretty lively, west of Main.

 

Yeah I mean people were out shopping. You also have to consider that people left out of town. 

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This will further enhance the prestige of Main Street, and bring more people out of the tunnels. Now if somebody were to get, say, a Hopdoddy on the Main St. end of Greenstreet, you'd have office workers streaming down there all day long, regardless of whether there are homeless around.

 

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What I've been trying tot tell people who doubt downtown becoming something great is that since redevelopment, downtown has slowly gained more stable businesses. The neighborhood went from clubs to a flurry of restaurants to stable well known businesses. It won't be long before dry goods start to show up. 

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