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tigereye    1,693

Rangers to announce a new retractable roof ballpark in Arlington, possibly by Friday. 

 

Lot B is wide enough to fit a retractable roof park in the style of Minute Maid Park and is across from Texas Live. I'd expect a roof design similar to Marlins Park (roof and separate sliding wall) with HKS as architect. The trend lately is modern exteriors (Target Field, Marlins Park) ...do the Rangers go this route? A modern park could fit in well with the a Death Star next door. 

 

http://sportsday.dallasnews.com/texas-rangers/rangers/2016/05/19/sources-rangers-city-arlington-will-announce-plans-new-retractable-roof-stadium

 

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lockmat    1,965

It would be near their current park? What would they do with old one?

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tigereye    1,693
14 minutes ago, lockmat said:

It would be near their current park? What would they do with old one?

 

If they do build at Lot B, it's likely they pave over Globe Life Park for replacement parking lots. 

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lockmat    1,965
1 minute ago, tigereye said:

 

MIG the do build at Lot B, it's likely the pave over Globe Life Park for replacement parking lots. 

 

Come again? 

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tigereye    1,693
Just now, lockmat said:

 

Come again? 

 

See edited post lol

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JasnoDTX    539

Wow. It seems like only yesterday when the current park was brand new. Time flies. I really wish they'd build in Dallas but you know Arlington wouldn't let them go. They want to be the attraction town. Whatever. I would like the Minute Maid park style. Dallas has room on the southside where they should build this.

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cloud713    3,580

Wow, what a bummer after all that talk of building a new stadium downtown. Ah well, I'm sure it will be nice.

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tigereye    1,693

Gosselin: Dallas loses again on Rangers' stadium because Arlington actually acts. 

 

http://sportsday.dallasnews.com/texas-rangers/rangers/2016/05/19/gosselin-arlington-acts-dallas-talks-rangers-will-staying-put-keeping-cool?hootPostID=2c36781242bc3458d5ad7655b419c1e6

 

FWST quotes a $900 million dollar price tag due to soaring construction costs. Press conference at 1:30 pm

 

http://www.star-telegram.com/news/local/community/arlington/article78764147.html

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Sunstar    484

I didn't realize Globe Life was over 20 years old! Still, not a very timeless design. 

 

Minute Maid Park is already 16 years old, but I hope that they keep using it for another 20 at least. It's a great urban ballpark that they're just starting to realize the value of with all the great development in the area. 

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Arlington got pissed when they printed jerseys West Coast Champions with Downtown Dallas on them. They immediate made new shirts.  Houston built Minute Made Park with a view of Downtown.  Toyota Center, BBVA, and Discovery Green park.  Something is very wrong with Downtown Dallas.      

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ADCS    343

MLB has a target audience. The Rangers do a very good job of pulling in this target audience, and much of that has to do with the stadium being close to the mid-cities suburbs.

 

This target audience is also the same one that prompted the move of FC Dallas to Frisco, and the Atlanta Braves to Smyrna.

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JasnoDTX    539
3 hours ago, nativehoustonion said:

I hope so went to a game there in July and it was so hot we had to leave!  Also a ugly stadium, why don't they build in Forth Worth? 

 

Fart Worth would be too far west. Mid city area is actually perfect but yea I wish they would build it near downtown D like Htown

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tigereye    1,693

Renderings are in. Roof rail shows (even when retracted) like Marlins Park. 

 

 

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tigereye    1,693
30 minutes ago, tigereye said:

Renderings are in. Roof rail shows (even when retracted) like Marlins Park. 

 

 

 

Rangers Park in the same retractable roof style as MMP, Safeco, and Marlins Park. The Mets, Yankees & Twins all planned retractable roof led parks that would've been similar if constructed. 

 

For comparion: 

 

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tigereye    1,693

May be debatable but it appears Rangers new park may be borrowing Minute Maid Parks left field quirks, with a short porch and bullpen.

 

 

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Firebird65    55

Not sure why they want a retractable roof. Might as well build a regular, fixed dome. It's a lot cheaper.

 

After the novelty wears off, the Rangers will very likely be like the Astros and open it maybe 5 times a year, or worse, like the Texans and never open the thing. The Astros claim they like the noise that reverberates when the roof is closed (remember the 2005 World Series?). Huh? Then why did you insist on a retractable roof? Just cheer louder. Plus no fan anywhere ever had any measurable legal effect on a game. As for the Texans, who knows why they absolutely refuse to pop the top on several gorgeous fall afternoons. But it also brings up the obvious question of why they had to have a retractable roof as well. At least we weren't suckered on a retractable roof for the Toyota Center.

 

If Arlington is smart, they'll force the team to pay for the retractable roof. But hey, it's the Metroplex, so why do I really care if they get hosed or not?

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lockmat    1,965

With their dryer climate I would guests they have more better weather days than us.

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JasnoDTX    539
3 hours ago, Firebird65 said:

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If Arlington is smart, they'll force the team to pay for the retractable roof. But hey, it's the Metroplex, so why do I really care if they get hosed or not?

 

There's already been rumblings from Arlington citizens saying they might not be happy with this.

The mayor of Dallas also had a press conference today and said that he would have liked the stadium in Dallas but he is more excited about new plans for the Trinity river he unveiled today  and that it would be a better investment.

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tigereye    1,693

Preliminary renders from stadium architect HKS. Initial concept resembles MMP with an arched wall hiding a roof rail support. With all the negative feedback concept is getting, will be interesting to see how design evolves from here.

 

 

 

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tigereye    1,693

Interesting take from current Rangers EVP of business operations Rob Matwick, once the former Astros VP of Communications. Minute Maid's exterior, including arches, were inspired from the 116 year-old train station on its site. 

 

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Matwick: Those people [who] can consider three conceptual renderings to be design, they don’t know much about architecture. People were saying we were mirroring the Astros’ Minute Maid Park. I worked for them for 21 years and was involved in the opening of Minute Maid. I went through that whole transition. The arches that people refer to that look like Minute Maid have been in place at Globe Life since 1994. Minute Maid opened in 2000. If anybody copied anybody, they copied us. Fans tell us they like the architecture of the current park and we think we should carry that forward.


We knew that by putting anything out this early in the process, there would be negative feedback, but we felt like it was the right thing to do. I believe the arches as they were portrayed will stay. These things will be 110 feet high. They’ll be majestic scale — far larger than anything at Globe Life or Minute Maid. I know they’ll be well done. We’re taking great care to make sure design works with Texas Live and GLP.

 

http://www.forbes.com/sites/bisnow/2017/01/10/texas-rangers-rob-matwick-and-hks-bryan-trubey-on-the-new-1b-stadium/#1d2786cd2405

 

 

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j_cuevas713    1,251
On 5/20/2016 at 7:17 PM, lockmat said:

With their dryer climate I would guests they have more better weather days than us.

Nooooo way... while the humidity can be downright exhausting here in Houston... the heat in North Texas literally stings and hurts

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Subdude    1,308

I think the DFW area owes a big hats-off to the taxpayers of Arlington for shelling out for stadium after stadium.  

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skwatra    371

They should rename them the Arlington Rangers. Wouldn't be unprecedented (see Anaheim).

 

Also a note from earlier - being at the Ballpark for a day game in July was the hottest I've ever felt in my life. It was a stagnant 105+, not sure what they were thinking scheduling an afternoon game that time of the year.

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Sic'EmBears    2,229
On 5/20/2016 at 8:52 AM, Sunstar said:

Still, not a very timeless design.

 

GLP is the definition of ballpark classicism. 

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tigereye    1,693

I haven't seen it discussed anywhere but this recent HKS video provides a good idea of what the new ballpark will look like. 

 

Some deets: 

1. The MMP-style limestone arches have been redone in left field, now inverted perpendicular, and now clad in brick. It's a good thing cause if they kept the limestone arches, the new place couldn't compete with MMP's view.

 

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Also, this double-deck space could be used for thousands of standing room only tix, like at neighboring AT&T Stadium. 

2. The other MMP-style aspect seen previously was a Crawford Boxes style seating section in left (HOK's proposal pre-vote)

3. In Blueprints shown, new park appears to have similar dimensions to Globe Life. If so, wouldn't be surprised if fence heights and LF out of town scoreboard carry over to new park. There also is a berm in center field. The setup definitely feels like a nod to Globe Life.

4. One bullpen is definitely visible in right field stands, could be stacked just like at Globe Life. 

 

 

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tigereye    1,693
On 7/3/2017 at 9:59 PM, tigereye said:

I haven't seen it discussed anywhere but this recent HKS video provides a good idea of what the new ballpark will look like. 

 

Some deets: 

1. The MMP-style limestone arches have been redone in left field, now inverted perpendicular, and now clad in brick. It's a good thing cause if they kept the limestone arches, the new place couldn't compete with MMP's view.

 

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Also, this double-deck space could be used for thousands of standing room only tix, like at neighboring AT&T Stadium. 

2. The other MMP-style aspect seen previously was a Crawford Boxes style seating section in left (HOK's proposal pre-vote)

3. In Blueprints shown, new park appears to have similar dimensions to Globe Life. If so, wouldn't be surprised if fence heights and LF out of town scoreboard carry over to new park. There also is a berm in center field. The setup definitely feels like a nod to Globe Life.

4. One bullpen is definitely visible in right field stands, could be stacked just like at Globe Life. 

 

 

 

New renders out, pretty much aligned up with the video above. Groundbreaking on 9/28.

 

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My 2¢: The design seems to lack any personality & character. I like the roof skylights but it will still feel like a warehouse when the roof is closed. 

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cspwal    2,140

I like the design, but I agree it lacks much character (the only thing identifying it from any other stadium is the 'T' behind home plate)

Also, it looks like there's only one entrance gate - I could see that being a problem.  

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tigereye    1,693

Updated renders and model of Globe Life Field. Honestly not a fan of this design. For $1.2 billion, hometown architect HKS & the Rangers could’ve come up with a better design then a retro version Marlins Park. 

 

https://twitter.com/globelifefield/status/1067480024519979008?s=21

 

https://twitter.com/krldandrewg/status/1067470800457003009?s=21

 

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JasnoDTX    539
On 4/14/2017 at 3:22 PM, Sic'EmBears said:

 

GLP is the definition of ballpark classicism. 

I agree. Man it seems like just yesterday when it first opened (1995?) I remember loving the newness of it. How time flies.

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JasnoDTX    539
3 hours ago, j_cuevas713 said:

It's not as well placed as Minute Maid in downtown Houston. This is in the middle of suburbia. 

I can agree with that. There is lots of space just south of downtown where they could have put it. Actually I believe the Dallas mayor was interested in bringing the Rangers to downtown D but focused on other projects. The Rangers in the middle of DFW keeps all those other people to the west happy.

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cspwal    2,140

On the other hand, the Ranger's new stadium is more likely to happen

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Luminare    1,570
2 hours ago, cspwal said:

On the other hand, the Ranger's new stadium is more likely to happen

 

This is BIG that we are talking about here. Pretty good track record of getting these kinds of designs built, and as rendered.

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j_cuevas713    1,251
2 hours ago, cspwal said:

On the other hand, the Ranger's new stadium is more likely to happen

I mean it is happening. Construction started a few months ago. 

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cspwal    2,140

Sort of my point.  The Athletics have announced a new stadium before, but the Rangers are currently building theirs

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