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They're crafty. I've unsubscribed from their emails months ago but I still manage to get every update  :) . Glad they are finally starting some of the projects they've been talking about.

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I posted the article in that Monacco thread earlier today that mentioned this as well as two other projects by Surge starting construction today

 

Ah ok.

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They're really over-emphasizing the "walkability" here and in every other press release I've seen about it.

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6 hours ago, corbs315 said:

 

They're really over-emphasizing the "walkability" here and in every other press release I've seen about it.

 I live nearby and walk around the area quite a bit.  It is walkable; however, aside from Herman Park, the museums, Park Plaza Hospital and Rice, there aren't a lot of "neighborhood" places to walk to (i.e., grocery stores, cleaners, drug stores, etc.), but this is par for the course in Houston....

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South side condos.

 

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East side townhomes.

 

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North side condos.

 

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North West side condos

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I spotted a crack in the stucco already, north east side condos.

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East side townhomes.

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Just a quick update on the progress of our Parc at Midtown community ... Although we strive to create the most beautiful designs while always keeping our goal of affordability top-of-mind, we know we cannot please everyone. We receive many positive comments from our homebuyers regarding the aesthetic of the community and sales are great. Please note that the development is not finished so we believe it is too early to make a final assessment, including for that of stucco. When the exterior of the building is complete and the landscaped park in the center of the community is finished, we believe you will be pleasantly surprised by the overall design aesthetic. In the meantime, here are a few construction pictures of the development to-date. It is also worth noting that we offer a 10-year, insurance-backed warranty on the building's structure.

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21 minutes ago, SurgeHomes said:

Just a quick update on the progress of our Parc at Midtown community ... Although we strive to create the most beautiful designs while always keeping our goal of affordability top-of-mind, we know we cannot please everyone. We receive many positive comments from our homebuyers regarding the aesthetic of the community and sales are great. Please note that the development is not finished so we believe it is too early to make a final assessment, including for that of stucco. When the exterior of the building is complete and the landscaped park in the center of the community is finished, we believe you will be pleasantly surprised by the overall design aesthetic. In the meantime, here are a few construction pictures of the development to-date. It is also worth noting that we offer a 10-year, insurance-backed warranty on the building's structure.

 

 

Surge - Is brick and/or siding combination cheaper? Brick is probably the best, most sustainable, and well suited environmentally for the Houston area.

 

Stucco is a nice look, especially when done right. Good stucco or plaster is expensive. So my question is why choose stucco over brick?

 

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I honestly like this. I also have concerns about how well the "stucco" will wear, but these look quite a bit better than the average new townhouse. Of course I'm also a sucker for a rear-loading garage off a shared driveway/alley.

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On 4/24/2018 at 5:26 PM, Avossos said:

 

Surge - Is brick and/or siding combination cheaper? Brick is probably the best, most sustainable, and well suited environmentally for the Houston area.

 

Stucco is a nice look, especially when done right. Good stucco or plaster is expensive. So my question is why choose stucco over brick?

 

Thanks

 

This look is actually fairly nice. Much better than Brick and Hardy Plank.

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32 minutes ago, Luminare said:

 

This look is actually fairly nice. Much better than Brick and Hardy Plank.

 

If you think stucco looks nicer than brick, that is your opinion. My opinion is the opposite.

 

My question is was the choice a design choice or a cost choice. I will never buy a stucco structure unless there is masonry underneath it. If you read up on the issues with stucco in Houston, you might understand why I asked the question..

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1 hour ago, Avossos said:

 

If you think stucco looks nicer than brick, that is your opinion. My opinion is the opposite.

 

My question is was the choice a design choice or a cost choice. I will never buy a stucco structure unless there is masonry underneath it. If you read up on the issues with stucco in Houston, you might understand why I asked the question..

 

To answer that question, its both. Depends on the context and situation. Same with stucco or brick. Depends on the context and situation.

 

I really like brick, but nobody does anything interesting with it around here. The main reason we see a lot of brick is mostly because the trades are better with building with brick than stucco.

 

We actually should be using more stucco in this environment because it better reflects heat. The problem is that many don't know how to apply stucco very well, or they don't use the right mixtures to satisfy the humid environment.

 

The problem with brick is that while its easier to make brick look good (its pretty straight forward), its very bad when it comes to absorbing heat. Stone the same way. These materials bring in too much heat into a building making it harder to cool (which puts greater stress on HVAC systems).

 

Houston is therefore a tough environment to design for when it comes to materials. We are too hot, too muggy, and at risk to too many natural disaster events.

 

Seems architects forever around here have been trying to crack that code. Its a difficult balance.

 

In the end I care about what the design intent is and if the material matches the intent. In this case, the materials of stucco and wood match well with its clean line modern/contemporary intent. If the project happens to be more brick and stone then its great either way, again design intent matters.

 

EDIT: An example of an interesting way of using brick recently that also matches the design intent is the new Moody Arts building at Rice. Just remembered an example and thought to include that in this post.

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