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HEB- 288 and N. MacGregor Drive

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Will be a great addition for the neighborhood especially the medical center and UH!!!

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Damn. We need one somewhere near Studemont and I-10.  :unsure:

 

Edit: Man, this is super close to the one at OST.

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Outstanding!  This would be a tremendous addition to the area.  If HEB were to proceed, I wonder if this would be developed in a manner closer to their Montrose, Tanglewood, and Buffalo markets given its proximity to the TMC and Museum District.

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Looking at the map, the indicated lot looks vacant, and looks like it has been since 288 was built.  It looks like the remains of old streets and houses are there.  I could be imagining things though

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PLEASE.  We need grocery stores nearer to the east side of Midtown (besides the Randall's...)

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And Texas Southern

....and Riverside Terrace, and West MacGregor (my neighborhood), and the many other neighborhoods that encompass the area  :)

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It would be nice if this was an HEB like West University and Montrose, but I'm not sure the surrounding demographics would support such a store.  Perhaps if they think they will get a lot of doctors on their way home to Pearland they will build such a store.  Fingers crossed it is a nice one.    

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It would be nice if this was an HEB like West University and Montrose, but I'm not sure the surrounding demographics would support such a store.  Perhaps if they think they will get a lot of doctors on their way home to Pearland they will build such a store.  Fingers crossed it is a nice one.    

 

The fact that HEB feels the land acquisition costs would be too high without city support suggests they may not, and probably do not, have a premium concept in mind.  However, the Museum District across the freeway to the north is rapidly redeveloping and a number of higher end apartments serving the TMC have been or are in the process of being constructed nearby (e.g. One Hermann Place).  The Mosaic is right across the freeway.  This parcel is large enough to support something grander than the old pantry foods concepts HEB started up in Houston back in the 90's.  HEB could put out a nice product without having something as costly as the Montrose or Buffalo Markets.  I figure a few flourishes from the Tanglewood Market, such as ample natural light and high ceilings, without all of the bells and whistles would make for a quite a nice store. 

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Missed this article the other day.  http://www.houstonchronicle.com/news/houston-texas/houston/article/Houston-Community-College-moves-to-sell-land-7462165.php

 

No new though, really:

 

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Another property the study recommends selling: a nine-acre plot at Texas 288 and MacGregor Way; the college is already working to sell it to the city. HCC has owned the MacGregor property twice and is now selling it for a second time. In the fifteen years since HCC first sold the property, the tract has bounced between multiple owners, and its price tag ballooned by 600 percent. City officials have said they want to lure an H-E-B store to the site using incentive funds intended to make fresh food available in neighborhoods where it is scarce.

 

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http://www.museumparkna.org/resources/Documents/July%206,%202016%20MPNA%20General%20Meeting%20Minutes%201.pdf

 

Is the proposed HEB supermarket was still in the works and where would it be located?

 

Greg Quintero responded that as far as he knew an HEB was still planned just east of Hwy 288 on MacGregor. Council Member Dwight Boykins would probably have more information.[//quote]

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http://www.houstontx.gov/housing/publiclegal/288macgregor.pdf

 

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Please join the City of Houston’s Housing and Community Development Department (HCDD) for a public meeting to discuss the proposed use of $11 million in Economic Development Initiative (EDI) funding and $2.8 million in Section 108 funding to finance the acquisition of land located at the corner of Highway 288 and MacGregor in City Council District D for the development of an HEB grocery store. To comply with environmental regulations about the Eight-Step process for potential development in a flood plain, a public hearing needs to be held. This Public Hearing will be held Wednesday, September 7, 2016 at 6:00 p.m. at the Judson Robinson Community Center located at 2020 Hermann Dr., Houston, TX 77004.

To assist in the development of the HEB project, HCDD proposes to purchase the land for $13.8 million from Houston Community College, combine it with two smaller parcels from the City of Houston’s Public Works and Engineering (PWE) Department and sell the tract to the Houston Housing Finance Corporation (HHFC). The land would then be leased to HEB for the development of a 72,000 square foot grocery store. The construction costs of $20 million will be funded by HEB and its investors. HEB could purchase the property from HHFC after obtaining the certificate of occupancy.

 

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It would be great if it was like the Montrose location, but this is on the east side of 288, so my hunch is that this will be a HEB Pantry.  Hopefully I'm surprised.  

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2 hours ago, htownproud said:

It would be great if it was like the Montrose location, but this is on the east side of 288, so my hunch is that this will be a HEB Pantry.  Hopefully I'm surprised.  

 

I don't think they do Pantry stores any more.  And they've never done 72,000 square-foot Pantry stores.

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^^^ at 72,000 sqft, this shall be a pretty large and state of the art store for the macgregor area.

houston needs to make this happen.  this prospective development shall totally revitalize this burgeoning district.

wow!  can't wait....

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I'm most excited that the HEB would be right on the Brays Bayou bike trail. If they make a safe way to cross MacGregor then that's one more car chore turned into a fun, healthy outdoor exercise opportunity.

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Site plan calls for greenery between the storefront and MacGregor. The photo I snapped at the meeting last night isn't very good. I'll try to get a slide from Councilman Boykins' office.

 

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58 minutes ago, houstontexasjack said:

Site plan calls for greenery between the storefront and MacGregor. The photo I snapped at the meeting last night isn't very good. I'll try to get a slide from Councilman Boykins' office.

 

Will the store front be on N. MacGregor or will it be on 288?

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11 hours ago, JLWM8609 said:

Will the store front be on N. MacGregor or will it be on 288?

From the slide, it appeared to face north (toward Riverside).  There will be driveway entrances from N. MacGregor along the bayou as well as the N. MacGregor shoot off from Riverside.

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This is in my neighborhood as well.  Community members, both long-time 3rd Ward residents like my family, as well as those moving in are excited about this project. I'm pleased with my council member's leadership on this issue, and look forward to the community growing in a way that reflects the needs of all residents--a new HEB is a step in the right direction.

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Here is a link to the full presentation with better details on the site plan.  Tip of the cap to Councilmember Boykins' office for sending this to me:

 

http://houstontx.gov/housing/Public_Hearing_Presentation_for_288_Site_20160907.pdf

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I forgot the preposition "to" before "me" in the original post.
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My church is the copper topped 2 buildings to the right of the proposed site. It is built on a very high elevation, marked an historic site, and hasn't flooded.  

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3 hours ago, quietstorm said:

My church is the copper topped 2 buildings to the right of the proposed site. It is built on a very high elevation, marked an historic site, and hasn't flooded.  

I go there. Well, I haven't been in a month of Sundays.

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1 hour ago, Texasota said:

The site plan makes me sad, but this would be good for the area.

 

1 hour ago, Texasota said:

The site plan makes me sad, but this would be good for the area.

Too suburban?

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I think the site plan is quite nice.  It provides some green space and a good-sized store for the area.  We haven't seen what it will look like, but HEB has been pushing more natural light and some architectural interest with their newer designs for the Buffalo, Montrose, and Tanglewood Markets.  It will be a store that's highly visible for the freeway, so HEB should have an incentive to design something appealing that would reflect well on their brand.

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The parking lot is just a fact of life here. Plus its right next to the freeway. Can't fight that. What would be cool is if HEB would work with the communities around it help bring better pedestrian access. Maybe work with the city on a bridge or a cut through access into the neighborhood, etc... Parking lots suck, but can be offset by better connectivity to other ways of getting there.

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20 hours ago, houstontexasjack said:

I think the site plan is quite nice.  It provides some green space and a good-sized store for the area.  We haven't seen what it will look like, but HEB has been pushing more natural light and some architectural interest with their newer designs for the Buffalo, Montrose, and Tanglewood Markets.  It will be a store that's highly visible for the freeway, so HEB should have an incentive to design something appealing that would reflect well on their brand.

 

Most of the H-E-B stores are pretty terrible in the exterior visuals department, often yellow boxes or something even tackier. The only ones that are notably not terrible are Tanglewood and Montrose (and the interior of those stores is nothing to write home about) as well as a few tasteful brick affairs that were courtesy of Albertsons.

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1 hour ago, Luminare said:

The parking lot is just a fact of life here. Plus its right next to the freeway. Can't fight that. What would be cool is if HEB would work with the communities around it help bring better pedestrian access. Maybe work with the city on a bridge or a cut through access into the neighborhood, etc... Parking lots suck, but can be offset by better connectivity to other ways of getting there.

 

I agree with you but aside from the trial on the bayou that area is horrible for pedestrians. A bayou with fast busy roads on both sides (the MacGregors) and a major freeway running perpendicular to the bayou makes it very unfavorable for pedestrians. 

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25 minutes ago, jmitch94 said:

 

I agree with you but aside from the trial on the bayou that area is horrible for pedestrians. A bayou with fast busy roads on both sides (the MacGregors) and a major freeway running perpendicular to the bayou makes it very unfavorable for pedestrians. 

This is my community.  I live, work and worship nearby.  In addition to the walking trail on the bayou, there is Calumet Park, Riverside Terrace, the bike trail that goes to Discovery Green, new town homes as well as existing apartments and homes. This is an establish area, that has a mixture of the old and new. I hope that HEB can successfully integrate the pedestrian with cars, b/c you see a lot of both in the area.

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The good thing is that the trails run under the highway. The only thing that is missing are pedestrian bridges that can fill the gaps between the major roads. But that would take urban planning and thats probably to much work

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Proposed H-E-B store to be boon for Texas Medical Center

By Cara Smith | Thursday, September 15, 2016 | bizjournals.com

 

The neighborhoods just southwest of the Texas Medical Center are some of the city's most needy grocery deserts. But a proposed grocery store from San Antonio-based H-E-B Grocery Co. could change that.

 

Councilman Dwight Boykins, who represents District D in Houston, has been working with H-E-B for roughly three years on developing a 60,000-square-foot grocery store at the intersection of Interstate 288 and S. MacGregor Way near Brays Bayou, the Houston Zoo and the Texas Medical Center.

 

Boykins said the city of Houston is interested in purchasing the nine-acre tract of land at 288 and MacGregor from Houston Community College, which bought the land in 2013 for roughly $13.6 million, according to the Houston Chronicle. The city recently applied for a roughly $12 million loan under Section 108 of the U.S. Housing & Urban Development Department, Boykins said. The $12 million would be used to purchase the land from HCC, and the city of Houston would lease the land back to H-E-B. Under projected lease agreements, H-E-B would probably pay off the land in around 30 years, Boykins said.

 

Of course, nothing is concrete. The H-E-B storefront has been in the works for years, but no contracts have been signed and nothing is finalized, Boykins said.

"H-E-B has invested its own resources into this process and showed their level of commitment. But it’s not done yet," Boykins said. "We’re grateful that H-E-B did environmental studies and more without contract. That shows their commitment."

 

Jazz Hamilton, who leads CBRE's retail division, called the move a "no-brainer."

 

"This is going to be great for this area, as it has been needed for a long time," Hamilton said. "H-E-B has been trying to get a larger unit in West U for the last few years and has not been able to assemble the right tracts, so this is a no-brainer for them. I’m sure this unit will be a huge success, like most of their other stores."

Most recently, a public hearing for the proposed H-E-B was held on Sept. 7 at the Judson Robinson Jr. Community Center. Around 300 District D residents attended the meeting, Boykins said.

 

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http://www.bizjournals.com/houston/news/2016/09/15/proposed-h-e-b-store-to-be-boon-for-texas-medical.html

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I read a posting on HAIF that mentioned full article copy/pastes are not allowed here. If I broke the rule by posting the HBJ story please let me know.

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The article stated Councilman Boykins predicted a late 2018 opening for the store. With the number of new homes and apartments getting ready to deliver, it will be much needed.

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I guess this will mean the end of the Scott Street/OST store when it opens knowing H-E-B's penchant for closing older stores (even multiple stores) when a newer one opens.

 

By the way, what used to be here? The current site shows an abandoned, curvier road north of the current North MacGregor Way, and prior to 288, that was all homes (c. 1953), but after 288 started construction (c. 1978), it was some sort of building complex I'm unable the ascertain the use of (seems a bit too dense for apartments, guessing offices or educational use). By 1989, it was torn down to just some foundations, and that's the current state of it.

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Why can't HEB just buy the property themselves? It is beyond stupid for the City to risk scarce tax dollars by acting as an intermediary in a commercial transaction.

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^^^ i could have sworn that i read earlier that this projected HEB retail establishment was going to be (75,000sqft).  what happened?

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10 minutes ago, monarch said:

^^^ i could have sworn that i read earlier that this projected HEB retail establishment was going to be (75,000sqft).  what happened?

72,000 square feet according to the presentation. The figure in the article appears to be inaccurate.

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On 9/16/2016 at 9:48 AM, IronTiger said:

I guess this will mean the end of the Scott Street/OST store when it opens knowing H-E-B's penchant for closing older stores (even multiple stores) when a newer one opens.

 

By the way, what used to be here? The current site shows an abandoned, curvier road north of the current North MacGregor Way, and prior to 288, that was all homes (c. 1953), but after 288 started construction (c. 1978), it was some sort of building complex I'm unable the ascertain the use of (seems a bit too dense for apartments, guessing offices or educational use). By 1989, it was torn down to just some foundations, and that's the current state of it.

There were apartments there.

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