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This is the kind of situation that frustrates the hell out of me. Any property built in the historic district should be required to have GFR. For that matter anything built downtown should be required

http://www.stantonroadcapital.com/portfolio.html      

I guess they saw your post and liked the idea. Trellis going up.    

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On 11/7/2016 at 1:52 AM, JoninATX said:

Well atleast it's better than a parking lot, and on the plus side it's not a bland parking garage. So It could have been alot worse. lol...

 

No offense intended, but what could possibly be blander than the ten story tall blank wall this thing is going to present to anybody driving towards it on Milam on their way into downtown?  If there's been a proposal to do some sort of tromp l'oel mural like what was on the Memorial City garages or the blank Travis side of the older building down near Bell, it hasn't been publicized too well.

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On 11/17/2016 at 3:55 PM, mollusk said:

 

No offense intended, but what could possibly be blander than the ten story tall blank wall this thing is going to present to anybody driving towards it on Milam on their way into downtown?  If there's been a proposal to do some sort of tromp l'oel mural like what was on the Memorial City garages or the blank Travis side of the older building down near Bell, it hasn't been publicized too well.

 

On 11/17/2016 at 3:55 PM, mollusk said:

 

No offense intended, but what could possibly be blander than the ten story tall blank wall this thing is going to present to anybody driving towards it on Milam on their way into downtown?  If there's been a proposal to do some sort of tromp l'oel mural like what was on the Memorial City garages or the blank Travis side of the older building down near Bell, it hasn't been publicized too well.

Apologize for the late response. But imo this garage looks to me 100x better than a normal bland parking garage. Take for instance that monstrosity that they built next to the convention center recently. A ugly garage with no detail or design to make it look different. I agree, it is sad that it's another parking garage but I'm excited that developers atleast put some effort into it other than looking bland like most garages these days. :)

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13 hours ago, kbates2 said:

Update.  This thing is a looker.

 

If this turns into a giant mural, cool.  If not, pitchforks.

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I do not know why, but for some strange reason I like that... I agree though that a mural would be great!

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Yuck!  I know that Houston developers, in keeping costs down, tend to build the cheapest garages possible.  However, I wonder if they overlook possibilities to distinguish their product that don't add much to the budget.  Like the vine-covered trellises I've seen on garages in other cities.  Perhaps there are one or two here that I can't recall?

 

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1 hour ago, KinkaidAlum said:

I don't blame the developers. They care only about the bottom line. It is up to the City or at least the historic district to implement some design requirements. Very few cities would allow this to go up. 

And even fewer cities would allow historic structures to be bulldozed.

 

welcome to Houston, Y'all.  The city of "we don't care what it looks like as long as it meets fire code.

 

 

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On 3/21/2017 at 10:59 PM, Texasota said:

Right, because parking downtown, drinking, and then driving back to the suburbs is such a great idea.

 

It's kind of what we're known for round these parts. 

 

I'm referencing the DWI fatalities in Harris co. 

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I'm sorry but nothing about this thread makes any sense.

Bottom line the city has no balls, the developers have no scruples and the citizens get screwed. 

Who has to live with it the rest of its life.

We all do.

We'll never learn. 

This could have been so much better. And this is Houston's front porch.

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On the positive side, a cheap precast garage means this is just a stand-in to make more profit than a lot could make until a better use for the land is found. If they spent extra on trellises and gargoyles and other flair that would signal to me they intend to keep this as a garage for quite a while. Once market demand dictates better financial use for the land, they likely won't hesitate to tear down the boring garage and build a better and bigger building--to make more money.

 

Also, the huge blank wall signals to me they anticipate the neighboring parking lot being developed near-term. Why have anything more than a blank wall when building to the lot line intrablock? A mural (or an advertising profit motive) would be a great possibility until the lot next door is developed.

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5 hours ago, adr said:

That side of the garage is begging pretty hard for a mural.

It might as well be painted with the words "Houston's design and planning process is effectivity useless and inept and every elected politician in the city should be ashamed"......

 

 

 

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On 4/20/2017 at 6:40 PM, UtterlyUrban said:

It might as well be painted with the words "Houston's design and planning process is effectivity useless and inept and every elected politician in the city should be ashamed"......

 

Crushed it.

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For those of you who don't know... The HAHC tried hard to get this to be as best as possible. The historic guidelines are weak... which mean they can be legally challenged. They requested for this to represent a store front. "Brick" was demanded. You see the result... The developers technically met all requirements. For  those of you who hate this garage, or even see this as a disappointing development, stricter guidelines and HAHC oversight could allow us to legally demand better. Just take a look at Hines' garage at Aris. That could be the standard. Unfortunately, we have a long way to go.

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Looks fine by me, muralists will come knocking, & anyways this is the historic district, they get all the niceties unlike say southeast downtown. Like I said before, this means the parking in front (along Franklin going east) is now redundant and that space can be re-designed This is where political will power would be applied more productively in the short term. Also what's to stop a future developer putting a stick-frame high rise on top of the garage? That's how I see all the garages in the parking garage district (~Milam@Clay).That crustation parking lot, while banal was the real problem of place making but no one really cared or noticed because their was no "improvement" to make judgement about aesthetics. 

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9 hours ago, infinite_jim said:

 Also what's to stop a future developer putting a stick-frame high rise on top of the garage? That's how I see all the garages in the parking garage district (~Milam@Clay).

 

Physics?

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