Museo Plaza: Mixed-Use For The Museum District, 58-Story High-Rise

[Montrose1100]

50 minutes ago, Response said:

Can I be a moderator? I want to be in control of the Houston Bashing department instead of Montrose1100. He's lazy and weird.  

Response, you're not wrong, but anyone can critique developments. That's the point of the forum. And you will never take the crown of Houston's #1 hater from me.

Play nicely and accept the opinions of others.

[X.R.]

I dunno what y'all are talking about, I like the use of different motifs represented by the glass. What y'all probably aren't thinking about is that in a multi-building development, you'll always want a building that uses all of the types of glass used by the other buildings. 

It kind of ties the whole development together, like a coda. That building is a coda.

[Response]

51 minutes ago, Montrose1100 said:

Response, you're not wrong, but anyone can critique developments. That's the point of the forum. And you will never take the crown of Houston's #1 hater from me.

Play nicely and accept the opinions of others.

Play nice and accept? O.k. 

But this advice comes from the same guy who laughed when I said that any city would be lucky to get this beautiful 58-story building.

Mod or Troll? I can't tell anymore. Have fun hating. 

[houstontexasjack]

5 hours ago, X.R. said:

It kind of ties the whole development together, like a coda. That building is a coda.

Or a certain rug. It really tied the room together.

[hindesky]

High rise in the background.

[houstontexasjack]

If memory serves, the overall design is based on Philip Johnson’s Habitable Sculpture. Some of the older, less glassy, renderings, had a variety of colors. The choices of different colored-glass could be a play on that concept:

Link to source of image:

https://www.cityrealty.com/nyc/market-insight/features/future-nyc/developer-zeroes-site-philip-johnson039s-039habitable-sculpture039/19341

 

[hindesky]

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[houstontexasjack]

As I’ve walked by this, I must say the multicolored glass has been growing on me. There’s a hint of whimsy about it.

[Naviguessor]

Yeah. I’ve become a fan too.  It stands out. 

[hindesky]

I hope they are placing the glass on the office portions so that they can do the interiors, this sign on the parking garage makes me wonder if they are going to cover the parking areas too. Maybe it will be lit up and be visible through the glass.

[KinkaidAlum]

I am glad you mentioned that. I've been very worried they had value engineered covering the garage out of the equation. Fingers crossed they haven't.

[jmitch94]

God I hope not, this building would look like hot garbage if they left it essentially they way it looks now. 

[houstontexasjack]

48 minutes ago, jmitch94 said:

God I hope not, this building would look like hot garbage if they left it essentially they way it looks now. 

Maybe they’re waiting on a 4th color of glass to clad the garage.

[hindesky]

If you look closely at this render it shows the garage portion being clad with a screen like covering. I think this will be the way they go.

[houstontexasjack]

3 hours ago, hindesky said:

If you look closely at this render it shows the garage portion being clad with a screen like covering. I think this will be the way they go.

Still a chance to do some fun things with color. They’ve got multiple colors with the glass already. I hope they commit to that. Maybe some peacock blue. 

[hindesky]

I talked with the supervisor in charge of the glass installation. He confirmed what I thought in that they wanted to enclose the office portion first so work can be done inside. The garage portion will be covered with a mesh covering. Notice the few discolored window panes, the panes are double sided and the outer portion broke during installation and will be replaced. He stated a Feb. '22 finish.

Edited June 18, 2021 by hindesky

[EllenOlenska]

That glass is wild 

[hindesky]

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[hindesky]

Still lots of missing and broken windows and no screens on the parking garage.

[Telemachos]

The statue of Nike of Samothrace was installed at the lobby. It is one of the most celebrated sculptures in the world and a fine example of the late Hellenistic period. The Louvre provided the 4D file for the statue to be sculpted in Greece and was intended to be placed at the Sanctuary of Gods in the island of Samothrace. It represents Goddess Nike landing on the prow of a ship in a fierce headwind. It is 13’ high and weighs 24 tons. 

[Texasota]

I mean. Maybe pay a local artist to do something unique rather than paying who knows how much for something that's just a copy?

[Twinsanity02]

10 hours ago, Telemachos said:

The statue of Nike of Samothrace was installed at the lobby. It is one of the most celebrated sculptures in the world and a fine example of the late Hellenistic period. The Louvre provided the 4D file for the statue to be sculpted in Greece and was intended to be placed at the Sanctuary of Gods in the island of Samothrace. It represents Goddess Nike landing on the prow of a ship in a fierce headwind. It is 13’ high and weighs 24 tons. 

Hate to sound like Arthur asking about the moose, but where is the head?

[tangledwoods]

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The Louvre provided the 4D file

I am not an expert in dimensions but wouldn't a 3D file suffice? 

[Montrose1100]

23 minutes ago, Texasota said:

I mean. Maybe pay a local artist to do something unique rather than paying who knows how much for something that's just a copy?

At least patrons/patients visiting for their medical needs will know exactly where their co-pays & out of pocket medical expenses are going.

[Naviguessor]

Don't question it.  It's what Randall Davis would do.   

[X.R.]

Given the amount of money that thing cost, and how expensive it looks, there is no way in hell that garage stays as it is. But, there has been a slowing down on the construction a bit on the weekends/the construction people are less visible, so either they are doing wiring inside or the construction crew has slowed down for whatever reason (prolly vacation, seems like everyone is taking vacation now).

It is a bit interesting to hear the MPNA people whine about the noise (particularly music) coming from the site, I'm like...who lives near enough to this that they could hear anything? We all know the Mond is empty 😝

[Valhalla]

11 hours ago, tangledwoods said:

I am not an expert in dimensions but wouldn't a 3D file suffice? 

So I guess you've never seen Night at the Museum 

[staresatmaps]

On 7/15/2021 at 8:54 AM, Texasota said:

I mean. Maybe pay a local artist to do something unique rather than paying who knows how much for something that's just a copy?

Because local artists only want to make recycled steel column statues.

[Telemachos]

On 7/15/2021 at 9:16 AM, tangledwoods said:

I am not an expert in dimensions but wouldn't a 3D file suffice? 

Sorry that was a typo. 
It was a 3D file.

[arche_757]

I’ve gotta say I am hoping the screens for the open parking garage some how pull this one together.  I think the contrast between the green and blue glass is just too much.  Also, the designers should have worked to get a softer transition between the vision panels and the opaque panels in the curtain wall system.  But hey, it ain’t my money!

This does however look like something that belongs in Memorial City and not in/around the Museum District.

[j_cuevas713]

Any word on who the tenants will be? 

 

[hindesky]

2 hours ago, j_cuevas713 said:

Any word on who the tenants will be? 

 

2 so far, Mann Eye Clinic on the top floor and Texas Laparoscopic Consultants on the 9th.

https://www.connectcre.com/stories/museo-mob-tops-out-with-the-promise-of-more-tenants/

https://www.houstonchronicle.com/business/real-estate/article/High-style-Museo-medical-office-building-tops-out-16123467.php

https://www.museohouston.com

 

[hindesky]

Screens for the parking garage are going up. Replacing the windows on the Fannin side.

[houstontexasjack]

I’ll reserve final judgment until the project is completed, but those screens look like glorified bug screens. 

[Montrose1100]

On 8/7/2021 at 3:56 PM, houstontexasjack said:

I’ll reserve final judgment until the project is completed, but those screens look like glorified bug screens. 

It's disenchanting. I'm nervous about the rest of the project. The Museum District is was the one area left that was sacred and safe from bright, cheap, tacky towers. 

[Houston19514]

40 minutes ago, Montrose1100 said:

It's disenchanting. I'm nervous about the rest of the project. The Museum District is was the one area left that was sacred and safe from bright, cheap, tacky towers. 

Yeah, so far, those screens are pretty disappointing (and that's being generous).

[HNathoo]

I understand why they're replacing glass with screens on the garage, but was hoping this would be a vanity project for the owner/user that disregarded economics.

[Valhalla]

2 hours ago, HNathoo said:

I understand why they're replacing glass with screens on the garage, but was hoping this would be a vanity project for the owner/user that disregarded economics.

Vanity is the problem. I think the owner blew all his money on that winged statue.

He is also a little delusional and once described this building as "timeless." Like anything with five floors of parking is instantly disqualified from that category, let alone five floors of parking covered by mesh strainers.

[j_cuevas713]

Glass can be replaced and facades changed, either way this is a win for the area. I’m not crazy about it but it’s not necessarily ugly. It’s def interesting to say the least but anything beats an empty plot of land. 

Edited August 10, 2021 by j_cuevas713

[bobruss]

Not necessarily.

[houstontexasjack]

11 hours ago, Montrose1100 said:

It's disenchanting. I'm nervous about the rest of the project. The Museum District is was the one area left that was sacred and safe from bright, cheap, tacky towers. 

It doesn’t exactly fill one with confidence about the execution on the remaining elements. I’ve moved toward a hard “no” on the abandonment of Palm St because I have trouble trusting that what would get out there would look anything like what was rendered.

[West Timer]

delicate flower. delicate flower. delicate flower. All you people ever do is delicate flower. 

[thedistrict84]

On 8/7/2021 at 3:56 PM, houstontexasjack said:

I’ll reserve final judgment until the project is completed, but those screens look like glorified bug screens. 

Curious move to use bug screens for the parking garage, since Volkswagen has recently discontinued the Beetle...

[hindesky]

I see 3 windows missing on 3 sides of the building.

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[houstontexasjack]

10 minutes ago, hindesky said:

 

The different colors of glass really pop in this shot @hindesky. I like how playful it looks.