H-Town Man Posted September 4, 2015 Share Posted September 4, 2015 May not be at the top of the market right now, but if MFAH is spending $450 million down the street, that will attract confidence to this little submarket. Probably want to have a finished product in time for the grand opening. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howard Huge Posted September 4, 2015 Share Posted September 4, 2015 This came up via google search:Mother of God, FIFTY-FOUR FLOORS!!!!This would be the Transco Tower of the Museum District, second tallest building outside of downtown Houston. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
towerjunkie Posted September 4, 2015 Share Posted September 4, 2015 Yay! another broken dream to add to the list 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigFootsSocks Posted September 4, 2015 Share Posted September 4, 2015 I like this recent trend of Urbannizer posting projects in the "Houston Potential" thread, only to find their way to the "Going Up" thread.Urb, post a make-up drawing of that 102 story supertall. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lockmat Posted September 4, 2015 Share Posted September 4, 2015 I'm curious what is planned just north of the museum place apartments. I think the house that is there is currently a restaurant. Seems like a good fit for a mid or high rise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobruss Posted September 4, 2015 Share Posted September 4, 2015 I did a little checking from some of my sources, and it is something that was being planned, but it's on the shelf for a while. It might get built down the road but don't hold your breath. Sorry but I would love to see this also. I also wonder whats going to happen to the proposed building for the Van Loch site on Milam. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloud713 Posted September 4, 2015 Share Posted September 4, 2015 Don't forget the rest of the cached quote that says with a "200 room hotel and retail lifestyle center on 3 full city blocks". where are y'all seeing that? i don't even see the mention of the 54 story segment Urb quoted? is my Safari not loading all of the text under Marko's profile? i wonder what hotel flag could be doing the hotel/lifestyle center. and are we sure that portion will be the short buildings, not the tower? i saw that mentioned on SSP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobruss Posted September 4, 2015 Share Posted September 4, 2015 I also was wondering about a project of this scope and its lack of a tram station in close proximity. I know theres a station at Binz and one Ensemble. Both of these are more than three blocks away from this project. Would metro consider adding more stations as density levels mushroom along the rail. With that question I was trying to think how they could even add a station without closing the total line for months which isn't going to happen. Anyone have any thoughts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparrow Posted September 4, 2015 Share Posted September 4, 2015 where are y'all seeing that? i don't even see the mention of the 54 story segment Urb quoted? is my Safari not loading all of the text under Marko's profile?i wonder what hotel flag could be doing the hotel/lifestyle center. and are we sure that portion will be the short buildings, not the tower? i saw that mentioned on SSP. #20's link to a Google search, first result click the green down arrow for cached. Middle of third paragraph. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curbur Posted September 5, 2015 Share Posted September 5, 2015 (edited) Not trying to take away from how amazing this would be if built, but I don't really like how wichita st appears to be removed from main to fannin in the last image. Edited September 5, 2015 by curbur Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avossos Posted September 5, 2015 Share Posted September 5, 2015 Aqua hotel makes sense to me 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howard Huge Posted September 5, 2015 Share Posted September 5, 2015 I also was wondering about a project of this scope and its lack of a tram station in close proximity.I know theres a station at Binz and one Ensemble. Both of these are more than three blocks away from this project.Would metro consider adding more stations as density levels mushroom along the rail.With that question I was trying to think how they could even add a station without closing the total line for months which isn't going to happen. Anyone have any thoughts?Interesting question.I don't think adding a station is feasible, they are placed strategically equidistant from eachother, adding a platform would disrupt the flow not to mention the huge cost and construction.Three blocks isn't a lot in other fair weather cities, but in Houston, three blocks in 90% humidity in the middle of August with a 115° heat index is brutal, enough to ruin your day and your outfit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_cuevas713 Posted September 6, 2015 Share Posted September 6, 2015 I walk 3 blocks to the nearest station before and after work and it's not even a long walk. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nole23 Posted September 6, 2015 Share Posted September 6, 2015 New Orleans is just as hot as Houston and people walk around there every day all day. I was just there not too long ago and no one seemed to care how hot it was. Houston just needs more walkable and pedestrian friendly districts. It's easier to complain about the heat when you are walking by 5 blocks worth of parking lots as compared to stores, shops and cafes. We will get there. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nativehoustonion Posted September 6, 2015 Share Posted September 6, 2015 New Orleans is just as hot as Houston and people walk around there every day all day. I was just there not too long ago and no one seemed to care how hot it was. Houston just needs more walkable and pedestrian friendly districts. It's easier to complain about the heat when you are walking by 5 blocks worth of parking lots as compared to stores, shops and cafes. We will get there. Go to Houston Tomorrow meetings the third Thursday each month at Rudyards. That is what we are discussing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ozone Files Posted September 6, 2015 Share Posted September 6, 2015 Three blocks isn't a lot in other fair weather cities, but in Houston, three blocks in 90% humidity in the middle of August with a 115° heat index is brutal, enough to ruin your day and your outfit. In certain (all?) districts, we need to incentivize property owners to plant or maintain shade trees along public sidewalks. Shaded streets would encourage walking in Houston more than anything else, imo. They also look nice. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxman Posted September 6, 2015 Share Posted September 6, 2015 Anyway, back to this building. The rendering reminds me a lot of Transco....big shoulders. Anybody else see the comparison; especially if it was standing along in the Museum District. I just hope they don't scale it down any. Sigh... 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
towerjunkie Posted September 6, 2015 Share Posted September 6, 2015 Anyway, back to this building. The rendering reminds me a lot of Transco....big shoulders. Anybody else see the comparison; especially if it was standing along in the Museum District. I just hope they don't scale it down any. Sigh... Yes! I thought of it looking like a Transco-ish design, isn't this building designed by Phillip Johnson's firm or something? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howard Huge Posted September 6, 2015 Share Posted September 6, 2015 In certain (all?) districts, we need to incentivize property owners to plant or maintain shade trees along public sidewalks. Shaded streets would encourage walking in Houston more than anything else, imo. They also look nice. THIS. ^ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howard Huge Posted September 6, 2015 Share Posted September 6, 2015 Anyway, back to this building. The rendering reminds me a lot of Transco....big shoulders. Anybody else see the comparison; especially if it was standing along in the Museum District. I just hope they don't scale it down any. Sigh...That was my first thought. (re: Transco) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howard Huge Posted September 6, 2015 Share Posted September 6, 2015 (edited) The renderings again, Philip Johnson/Alan Ritchie architects. I think there is definitely a little Transco tower inspiration in this building, all it's missing is the black spotlight housing on top. Museo Plaza http://www.pjararchitects.com/#!museo-plaza/cem1 Edited September 6, 2015 by Howard Huge 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triton Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 Museo Plaza is beautiful, and does indeed compliment Transco/Williams Tower. The finer new buildings in America are often inspired, at least in part, by other great works. For example, 432 Park Avenue in Manhattan, looks like a taller version of J. P. Morgan Chase Tower in Houston. Ugh, 432 Park Avenue is just way too minimalist for me. It's beautiful on the inside... not so much on the outside. People mainly like it cause of the height. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hindesky Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 Would the FAA OK something this high in the flight path to Hobby? I seem to recall they didn't want an ultra tall in downtown many years ago. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montrose1100 Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 (edited) Would the FAA OK something this high in the flight path to Hobby? I seem to recall they didn't want an ultra tall in downtown many years ago.Expensive insurance for tall buildings. Blah blah blah.But I've seen Southwest fly quite low around my hood, giving passengers a good view of San Felipe Plaza/Marathon Tower, bank south by the Williams Tower, and then bank left towards midtown. They seem even lower over Midtown (In-between Downtown and the Museum District). It would be interesting to know how low they are, and if there is a height limit over midtown/museum district. Edited September 7, 2015 by Montrose1100 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
houstontexasjack Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 http://nypost.com/2014/06/26/faa-wants-to-lower-building-height-limit-near-airports/The above article helped explain the FAA issue to me. In short, the FAA does not have veto power over the height of a building. However, a building deemed a flight hazard becomes far more expensive to insure (I think that might be to what Montrose1100 referred). 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
houstontexasjack Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 (edited) http://system.gocampaign.com/file/512363Looks as though, under section 9-706 of the city's air hazard area ordinance, any structure over 200' is in an air hazard area and a building permit shall not be issued if the building is deemed to be an air hazard.http://system.gocampaign.com/files/file.asp?f=242320The Museum District appears to be out of the general air hazard perimeter in the link above, but a structure this tall might actually need to be deemed "not an air hazard" in order to move forward.Edit: For anyone interested, here is a copy of the form that must be filed with the FAA for structures above 200 feet:http://www.faa.gov/documentLibrary/media/Form/FAA_Form_7460-1_2017.pdf Edited September 11, 2015 by houstontexasjack 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howard Huge Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 (edited) I never understood this ridiculous ordinance in Houston that basically puts a hard ceiling on our skyline. I've lived in downtown/midtown for years and I have NEVER seen a plane come "dangerously" close to any of our buildings, the flight path to hobby misses downtown altogether.What makes it utterly ridiculous is the fact that when I fly into NYC-Laguardia, I can practically see people waving at me on the Empire state buildings observation deck. Houston ALWAYS has some stupid rule or person or backwards way of thinking holding it back, I swear. Go figure. Edited September 11, 2015 by Howard Huge 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigFootsSocks Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 Uhhh....this is getting into ssc levels of conspiracy... I like architecture as much as you guys but no one really gives a crap if some city has more/bigger/taller phallic figures that another. I'm almost positive there's not some random person of power sitting in a dark room jerking it to pictures of Chicago and New York while burning candles over pictures of suburban Houston, but what do I know? I mean, you're right, there isn't any reason Houston hasn't built as many towers as New York or Chicago...if we ignore the population density of both cities...the flat cheap land that spurs urban sprawl... 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howard Huge Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 I think I read once that I.M. Pei originally designed Texas Commerce Tower at 80 stories but the FAA made them knock it down to 75. Don't know if its true but we would still have the tallest building West of the Mississippi if it was. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigFootsSocks Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 Uhhh....this is getting into ssc levels of conspiracy... I like architecture as much as you guys but no one really gives a crap if some city has more/bigger/taller phallic figures that another. I'm almost positive there's not some random person of power sitting in a dark room jerking it to pictures of Chicago and New York while burning candles over pictures of suburban Houston, but what do I know? I mean, you're right, there isn't any reason Houston hasn't built as many towers as New York or Chicago...if we ignore the population density of both cities...the flat cheap land that spurs urban sprawl...Or is the Illuminate really an organization built around the distribution of tall buildings to select few cities? The world may never know... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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