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1 hour ago, samagon said:

this building doesn't really do so much for the skyline, but the way it works locally, with the angles, really make it take over that area.

 

I still think that it will do a good deal for extending the width of the skyline from that angle.  Remember, when you look at that picture, that it will be about the exact same height as the old Continental building.

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On 9/29/2020 at 10:56 PM, Urbannizer said:

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This angle of downtown alway belies just how dense it really is.  The location of the tallest towers at the northwestern edge obscure all the shorter buildings immediately behind them.  It's amazing to me how different our downtown looks from the north, and south and east!

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1 hour ago, mls1202 said:
On 9/29/2020 at 10:56 PM, Urbannizer said:

 

This angle of downtown alway belies just how dense it really is.  The location of the tallest towers at the northwestern edge obscure all the shorter buildings immediately behind them.  It's amazing to me how different our downtown looks from the north, and south and east!

That's a downside of the street grid system layout. The buildings alternately obstruct each other and leave gaps due to the sight lines.
One of the reasons Lower Manhattan's skyline is so impressive is that it was constructed within a disorderly jumble of streets. Almost every gap is filled and every building is visible 

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3 hours ago, dbigtex56 said:

That's a downside of the street grid system layout. The buildings alternately obstruct each other and leave gaps due to the sight lines.
One of the reasons Lower Manhattan's skyline is so impressive is that it was constructed within a disorderly jumble of streets. Almost every gap is filled and every building is visible 

2 things here..

 

The only part of the New York that is jumbled is the old Dutch and English parts at the tip of Manhattan. The rest is as rigid of a grid as you get, thanks to the 1812 plan. We've all seen the photos of the 'Canyons and Valleys" of Manhattan streets.

 

On Houston, it's a matter of perspective- Views from 288, 45, and 59 have views that are not straight on.

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5 hours ago, mls1202 said:

This angle of downtown alway belies just how dense it really is.  The location of the tallest towers at the northwestern edge obscure all the shorter buildings immediately behind them.  It's amazing to me how different our downtown looks from the north, and south and east!

Honestly hate this view, my least favorite in the city. Not sure why people are so in love with it.

 

The view from 45N, 288/59 interchange and I10E are the best imo

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1 hour ago, shasta said:

2 things here..

 

The only part of the New York that is jumbled is the old Dutch and English parts at the tip of Manhattan. The rest is as rigid of a grid as you get, thanks to the 1812 plan. We've all seen the photos of the 'Canyons and Valleys" of Manhattan streets.

 

On Houston, it's a matter of perspective- Views from 288, 45, and 59 have views that are not straight on.

 

Lower Manhattan is the old Dutch streets. It had a magical skyline before they got rid of all the little old buildings along the docks and built a new generation of boxy glass skyscrapers that blocked the view of the 1920's skyscrapers.

 

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Best view hands down of Houston’s SKYLINES is that 610 Eastbound–>288 northbound overpass! The colors from the med center buildings glowing in the foreground, downtown looming in the distance and the uptown skyline watching over. 

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7 minutes ago, midtowndweller said:

Best view hands down of Houston’s SKYLINES is that 610 Eastbound–>288 northbound overpass! The colors from the mid center buildings glowing in the foreground, downtown looming in the distance and the uptown skyline watching over. 

 

288 Northbound -> 69 Southbound is pretty awesome as well, a little bit closer in version of that same view (minus the med center)

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11 hours ago, midtowndweller said:

Best view hands down of Houston’s SKYLINES is that 610 Eastbound–>288 northbound overpass! The colors from the med center buildings glowing in the foreground, downtown looming in the distance and the uptown skyline watching over. 

 

11 hours ago, asubrt said:

 

288 Northbound -> 69 Southbound is pretty awesome as well, a little bit closer in version of that same view (minus the med center)

Once the new 610 to 59 north ramp opens by the Galleria area that'll be one hell of a view!

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Yes, I’ve always considered this a solid 50-story tower. Not simply rounding up, rather, the specific design and height of the crown adds 3 stories to the 47.

 

Similarly, I consider 609 Main to be 50 stories with a total height of 53 stories (not the 48 office floors officially listed). Casual observers would never know the first 2 “floors” of the 5 story crown are only mechanical and unoccupied. 

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On 10/1/2020 at 12:17 PM, shasta said:

 

The only part of the New York that is jumbled is the old Dutch and English parts at the tip of Manhattan.

Therefore, my use of the term "Lower Manhattan".

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this is going to be quite a handsome building and very noticeable in the downtown skyline.  they are building at break neck speed and it's starting to come together quickly now.  i can't wait to see the finished exterior with cool lighting on top and hopefully on the sides as well !

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46 minutes ago, MidCenturyMoldy said:

OK. I'm just going to say it and suffer the consequences. I don't like that building. There. 

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^^^ shoot the messenger!  there...

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3 hours ago, Twinsanity02 said:

Just curious, why don't you?

I think it's mostly the boring glass curtain wall, especially on the parking garage. I must note that I haven't even been to Houston since the glazing started, so I haven't seen it in person. But I also don't like the top all that much and I don't like the entrance.

 

I'm not a big fan of 609 Main, either. Again, mostly because of the boring curtain wall. I LOVE the exterior of 811 Main (BG Group Place)...just not thrilled with the notch that makes it look like a giant BIC lighter.

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I'll play this game:

If I was still a kid and my dad said he worked there, I would assume he had the most boring job in the world.  This might be the most vanilla ice cream Hines project I've seen.  The curtain wall is OKAY, the sky lobby bump outs are OKAY, the cool 1st floor carousel is OKAY.  For lack of a more clear criticism it feels like the building has no soul.  The garage podium topped mesh / tight louvers is particularly UGH BORING.

 

Its almost like someone took Transco Tower, made the floorplate more leasable, rotated the tower 45 deg off street grid, replaced the cool top with a reduced copy of the BHP crown and called it good.

 

I am sure the lobby will be very nice and the amenities will be to par with Hines typical class-a offerings, but there is nothing here that says WOW COOL.  At least the Skanska rectangle had the understory tunnel "COOL".

 

 

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I think the reason people like it is because Houston has been spitting out the most monotonous structures... in a good project. When Hines gives us a unbalanced roof, or turning the tower base off the normal grid, we get super excited. It's all relative.

 

Majority of the buildings have been okay or decent. The rest are boring or ugly. There's nothing exciting, there's nothing that would make it to a coffee table book.

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Living in Detroit has really put into perspective for me how bland a lot of the architecture in Houston is. Everything built is about maximizing profits and minimizing costs. None of these buildings are memorable, and they don't really add much to the character of the city. 

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On 10/27/2020 at 10:57 AM, Twinsanity02 said:

No problem. Hopefully we are not into groupthink on HAIF. Just curious, why don't you?

Damn now we're turning into negative groupthink. SOMEBODY PRESS THE REVERSE BUTTON THIS IS GETTIGN OUT OF HAND. Lol, good thing this forum rarely if ever turns into a hivemind like most forums (looking at you reddit). 

 

Personally, I like the design of this tower, it has pretty good interaction with the ground floor through well designed retail openings, and the crown gives a pretty unique rooftop not seen much in Texas. Overall, while it isn't the Neil Esperson Building, it's still better than the vast majority of high rises in Texas going up and existing. I think it's a good looking building, and adds a lot to the area. 

 

If we're going off the best looking high-rises going up I would have to say The Preston, or that 39 story tower going up on Post Oak. These 2 towers are just astounding. 

 

On 10/27/2020 at 5:19 PM, dcdude said:

I live in Austin and this one looks like everything that is going up here....Austin just gets excited when they get a tall building, they don't care what it looks like

Still better looking than most if not all of them though. 

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