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@ the annoyed neighbor, Amy.

 

Another option is ear plugs, or white noise. I bought earplugs but thankfully I never had to use them.  Good luck

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Amy, did you live in that unit during the demolition of the Houston Club?  They took that building down with a wrecking ball and would run into the am hours.  I was in unit 713 at the time and pretty close to where it appears your unit is.  With white noise machines you can cover a lot of it up.

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Amy, when they took down the Macy’s building, my office was across the street.  Before construction started going vertical, they needed to jackhammer something. Seems like it went on for a couple months........

 

 

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11 hours ago, ekdrm2d1 said:

@ the annoyed neighbor, Amy.

 

Another option is ear plugs, or white noise. I bought earplugs but thankfully I never had to use them.  Good luck

Thanks, ekdrm2d1. I've been an ear plug wearer from years in NYC and Philly. I find it ironic that I'm in Houston now with the loudest noise. If I could escape to an office it would be great, but I've got the "perk" of working from home.  ;)  I'll have to ask the construction guys what they wear...

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7 hours ago, UtterlyUrban said:

Amy, when they took down the Macy’s building, my office was across the street.  Before construction started going vertical, they needed to jackhammer something. Seems like it went on for a couple months........

 

 

Thank you! That's good to know. I can take a couple of months. That jackhammering demolition of the Chronicle building was unreal, lasted almost a year? I know the vertical will be noisy too, but it'll have to be better than the non-stop pummeling. Here's some weekend work/excavation–

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11 hours ago, kbates2 said:

Amy, did you live in that unit during the demolition of the Houston Club?  They took that building down with a wrecking ball and would run into the am hours.  I was in unit 713 at the time and pretty close to where it appears your unit is.  With white noise machines you can cover a lot of it up.

No, I lived in Franklin Lofts during that time. Ugh, that had to have been tough as well! But they did implode it, right? I had the joy of the Chronicle demolition - do you or does anyone know why the Chronicle wasn't imploded? I prayed nightly for it... my thought was they couldn't do it because of potential damage to the Rice (Historic Registry)?

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They imploded part of the Houston Club but took the rest down slowly with a wrecking ball starting at like 9 pm each night.

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1 hour ago, kbates2 said:

They imploded part of the Houston Club but took the rest down slowly with a wrecking ball starting at like 9 pm each night.

 

Seems like it was the parking garage portion that they took down bit by bit. Perhaps it is more difficult to implode a parking garage? If so, that would mean a slow start to the Block 42 tower.

 

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It was the northeast corner that came down the slowest.  If I remember correctly, it was due to a problem during the implosion.  This corner held up to the implosion and posed a safety risk thus requiring the wrecking ball.  As downtown residency was still below 4K, they did everything after business hours.

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Getting rid of old foundation to lay the new will be over relatively quickly.

 

Once construction starts on the new building the most annoying noise will be the guy blowing the whistle for the benefit of the construction workers when the crane has a load. Whether you hear that or not depends on where the whistle guy is. 

 

Beyond that, construction vehicles, lane closure, and street closure is the most annoying part you'll have to live with.

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2 hours ago, samagon said:

Getting rid of old foundation to lay the new will be over relatively quickly.

 

Once construction starts on the new building the most annoying noise will be the guy blowing the whistle for the benefit of the construction workers when the crane has a load. Whether you hear that or not depends on where the whistle guy is. 

 

Beyond that, construction vehicles, lane closure, and street closure is the most annoying part you'll have to live with.

 

Thank you for the insight! 

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On 8/25/2018 at 10:52 AM, AmyP said:

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How was your week? Did you try the white noise?

 

I enjoy neighbors commenting on these developments. Gives another aspect of the build.

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22 hours ago, ekdrm2d1 said:

How was your week? Did you try the white noise?

 

I enjoy neighbors commenting on these developments. Gives another aspect of the build.

The construction symphony goes on! It's now becoming its own white noise ;). I'm grateful it stops at 5pm, but it makes a tough work day when you work from home... not grateful, however, that it starts up at 7:30am on a Saturday. Even through ear plugs it's my alarm. It took a day break this past Sunday - I wondered why it was quiet – "is it a holiday??" No, it was Theater District Day. And there can't be dust and noise on that day. Kind of like when the demo on the Chronicle stopped during Super Bowl Week. It's progress in front of residents; unsightly and noisy in front of visitors. Enjoy the pics from the end of the week! (taken 8/31)

 

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On 9/1/2018 at 8:16 PM, rechlin said:

AmyP, if that is the view from your apartment, I'd be willing to decommission one of my web cams (here: http://webcam.rechlin.net/garage/) for you to to setup to allow us to monitor the construction progress, if you are willing.

 

These pics are from the top of the parking garage. I get all the joy of hearing it but not seeing it.

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some light jack hammering was finished earlier this week. I think that it's all done with. they brought in some concrete today and there's a rectangular box that's now sitting at the bottom.

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Gilbane's advertising is different than their normal solid red.  Partnership with OSHA is written on it, perhaps.

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I would update with photos, but I've reached my attachment quota. Interesting to see the progress...

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Upload to imgur.com and then drag-and-drop the image from the imgur page into the post editor textbox and it won't use your quota.

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32 minutes ago, phillip_white said:

 Here you go:

 

 

Thanks, the upload prompt never showed up, just a little swirly graphic content to keep on spinning on my screen. 

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I think in certain renderings the winning design looks better and in certain ones it looks worse. This design certainly looks better on the bottom floors. Felt a little bit like Christmas morning when I first saw these.

 

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It adds a bit more height and that lattice-work pattern HOK has been going with (think the 7200 Main design that came out), but I prefer the crown on the existing design. 

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20 minutes ago, houstontexasjack said:

It adds a bit more height and that lattice-work pattern HOK has been going with (think the 7200 Main design that came out), but I prefer the crown on the existing design. 

 

Agreed. The one they went with is better. It's far more interesting at the top, where it counts the most.

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In thinking about the future, an angled version of this design would look pretty nifty at the Five Allen Center site. Something where the line on the side of the building could be viewed from the western approach to Downtown.

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1 hour ago, wxman said:

Did anybody bother to read the fine print?! This is now a 60 STORY BUILDING!!

 

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In the first rendering that Ubrannizer posted, read the black column to the right (better to do it on your phone so you can zoom in). The second paragraph reads the following:

 

"Instead of the standard design that places a rectangular form above a parking podium with the same floor plate on each story, this building design feature a fariety of floor plates with different sizes and configurations--from center cores to side cores--and ceiling heights that vary based on their location of the 60-story tower. As the floor plates change, step-back roofs create several large outdoor terraces that serve as outdoor extensions of office areas accessible to all tenants."

 

Based on that, this will be the fourth tallest skyscraper in Houston -- possibly the third (if going by roof height). Williams is 64-stories and 901 feet. This one is 60-stories so this will easily push into the mid 800 foot range. 

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18 minutes ago, wxman said:

In the first rendering that Ubrannizer posted, read the black column to the right (better to do it on your phone so you can zoom in). The second paragraph reads the following:

 

"Instead of the standard design that places a rectangular form above a parking podium with the same floor plate on each story, this building design feature a fariety of floor plates with different sizes and configurations--from center cores to side cores--and ceiling heights that vary based on their location of the 60-story tower. As the floor plates change, step-back roofs create several large outdoor terraces that serve as outdoor extensions of office areas accessible to all tenants."

 

Based on that, this will be the fourth tallest skyscraper in Houston -- possibly the third (if going by roof height). Williams is 64-stories and 901 feet. This one is 60-stories so this will easily push into the mid 800 foot range. 

This design was not chosen. I thought Urby posted it as a “what might have been.”

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I prefer the tower design of the one being built. That being said, I think the overall design of this other model is better. The only setback as far as the design of the current model is the parking podium. This design seems to address it in a better way that lets the tower do more things.

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Oh ok....then my apologies. I got excited. I didn't see the "what might of been" part. Too bad, this is a better design IMO.

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4 hours ago, wxman said:

In the first rendering that Ubrannizer posted, read the black column to the right (better to do it on your phone so you can zoom in). The second paragraph reads the following:

 

"Instead of the standard design that places a rectangular form above a parking podium with the same floor plate on each story, this building design feature a fariety of floor plates with different sizes and configurations--from center cores to side cores--and ceiling heights that vary based on their location of the 60-story tower. As the floor plates change, step-back roofs create several large outdoor terraces that serve as outdoor extensions of office areas accessible to all tenants."

 

Based on that, this will be the fourth tallest skyscraper in Houston -- possibly the third (if going by roof height). Williams is 64-stories and 901 feet. This one is 60-stories so this will easily push into the mid 800 foot range. 

 

Wow. Wonder if this was too ambitious and that's why it wasn't selected? Also, I think the winning design's 45 degree turn from the street grid creates advantages for leasing due to less blocked views.

 

Hopefully we get an announcement on the residential building soon.

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14 hours ago, H-Town Man said:

 

Wow. Wonder if this was too ambitious and that's why it wasn't selected? Also, I think the winning design's 45 degree turn from the street grid creates advantages for leasing due to less blocked views.

 

Hopefully we get an announcement on the residential building soon.

 

Thats like saying producers go into a room and say, "hey guys how can we make a movie that is really terrible!" Nobody ever sets out to make a bad movie, just like nobody sets out to make a terrible building. You have no clue how clients always want the best of the best until either budget, and time begin to influence what is possible. The other thats never considered is that maybe we as outside observers see a greater potential because we aren't burdened by notions of expectations, budget, and time. We also have to remember that these buildings aren't built for any of us commenting here. They are designed and built for their clients. We just hope that our dreams and aspirations match what the clients want. I'm sure the current design is exactly what the client wants and is incredibly ambitious for them to build it. They are about to drop untold millions of dollars...MILLONS to build this. You aren't going into this saying, "how can we design something that doesn't show ambition."

 

While again I actually favor this other design as a whole, I appreciate the simplicity of the current design. I think a much more interesting discussion, rather than just reimagine an alternate universe where this is at play, would be to evaluate the current state the approach to architecture is here. We are finally looking at doing big projects and looking to big ideas again, but its interesting how we still aren't really picking up on most architectural trends that are out there. I'm still wondering why bigger names in the field have yet to really impact the city like they did during modernism and post-modernism.

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“Designed and built for the clients?” I was under the impression this was spec office. I would think the previous design is far more bold, imposing and makes a bigger splash and would woo a potential tenant easier. Not that the current design is ugly, but rotating a building 45 degrees isn’t all that “progressive.” When comparing the two renderings side by side, it makes you take a deep breath and sigh when compared to what could have been, at least IMO.

 

It’s like being told you’re getting a brand new mustang. Exciting until you realize your spouse or parents had made an offer on an Audi RS5 but settled for the mustang. Sort of dampens the excitement for the mustang lol.

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1 hour ago, Luminare said:

 

Thats like saying producers go into a room and say, "hey guys how can we make a movie that is really terrible!" Nobody ever sets out to make a bad movie, just like nobody sets out to make a terrible building. You have no clue how clients always want the best of the best until either budget, and time begin to influence what is possible. The other thats never considered is that maybe we as outside observers see a greater potential because we aren't burdened by notions of expectations, budget, and time. We also have to remember that these buildings aren't built for any of us commenting here. They are designed and built for their clients. We just hope that our dreams and aspirations match what the clients want. I'm sure the current design is exactly what the client wants and is incredibly ambitious for them to build it. They are about to drop untold millions of dollars...MILLONS to build this. You aren't going into this saying, "how can we design something that doesn't show ambition."

 

While again I actually favor this other design as a whole, I appreciate the simplicity of the current design. I think a much more interesting discussion, rather than just reimagine an alternate universe where this is at play, would be to evaluate the current state the approach to architecture is here. We are finally looking at doing big projects and looking to big ideas again, but its interesting how we still aren't really picking up on most architectural trends that are out there. I'm still wondering why bigger names in the field have yet to really impact the city like they did during modernism and post-modernism.

 

How on earth did you construe my words to mean that I thought they wanted to make a terrible building? All I said was that the non-winning design was maybe too ambitious, i.e. in terms of height and floor area to be leased. Hines has consistently stayed below 50 stories on recent buildings here and not too far beyond 1 million SF. Combine that with our current high downtown vacancy and maybe 60 stories was too ambitious. And I in no way said the winning design was terrible, I actually said I thought it was better in certain renderings, not in others. I'm still not sure which design I like better overall.

 

Did it ever dawn on you just to ask, "What do you mean by 'too ambitious'?"

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46 minutes ago, wxman said:

“Designed and built for the clients?” I was under the impression this was spec office. I would think the previous design is far more bold, imposing and makes a bigger splash and would woo a potential tenant easier. Not that the current design is ugly, but rotating a building 45 degrees isn’t all that “progressive.” When comparing the two renderings side by side, it makes you take a deep breath and sigh when compared to what could have been, at least IMO.

 

It’s like being told you’re getting a brand new mustang. Exciting until you realize your spouse or parents had made an offer on an Audi RS5 but settled for the mustang. Sort of dampens the excitement for the mustang lol.

 

They have a major tenant leased to anchor the building, who I imagine would have gotten a say in the design competition. I'm sure Luminare can tell us more about how this process works, since he's an architect.

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