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Portland and Milam, for anyone else who forgot where the The Carter is.

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And here is the fencing, 216 to 240 Portland. Looks more likely to keep the vagrants out than for construction. This topic was started in 2015.

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Anyone know what's going up across the street?

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I believe the school behind this purchased these lots for expansion. 

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HNathoo, I hope so, but the sign on the opening post suggested otherwise. The upscale townhouses across the street haven't been selling well, but another lot next to them has seen recent demo (last picture above) that the school would not want (although the Pres. Church might as itis adjacent to their "Operation ID" building. ) Today,  it appeared that crews were out on Portland to cut of the electricity  to the newly fenced apartments.... soon to be demoed?  Note, the fencing style is the same as in the last pic above.

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1 hour ago, Toopicky said:

HNathoo, I hope so, but the sign on the opening post suggested otherwise. The upscale townhouses across the street haven't been selling well, but another lot next to them has seen recent demo (last picture above) that the school would not want (although the Pres. Church might as itis adjacent to their "Operation ID" building. ) Today,  it appeared that crews were out on Portland to cut of the electricity  to the newly fenced apartments.... soon to be demoed?  Note, the fencing style is the same as in the last pic above.

 

As of April-2019, Joy Development School is the owner of the lot

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On 6/23/2019 at 2:13 PM, hindesky said:

 

Anyone know what's going up across the street?

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20 hours ago, HNathoo said:

 

As of April-2019, Joy Development School is the owner of the lot

Thanks for the update

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22 hours ago, Toopicky said:

HNathoo, I hope so, but the sign on the opening post suggested otherwise. The upscale townhouses across the street haven't been selling well, but another lot next to them has seen recent demo (last picture above) that the school would not want (although the Pres. Church might as itis adjacent to their "Operation ID" building. ) Today,  it appeared that crews were out on Portland to cut of the electricity  to the newly fenced apartments.... soon to be demoed?  Note, the fencing style is the same as in the last pic above.

 

I wonder why they're not selling well. That little pocket is very charming IMO.

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2 hours ago, clutchcity94 said:

 

I wonder why they're not selling well. That little pocket is very charming IMO.

 

I was gonna say something similar after Urbannizer posted that image. That part of MD is very Montrose: townhouses, a giant apartment/condo place, the school, traditional houses, and old places that serve as apartments, and those old school retail places. When the former Chelsea market gets its shit together, its gonna be, as the kids say, 100. 

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1 hour ago, X.R. said:

 

I was gonna say something similar after Urbannizer posted that image. That part of MD is very Montrose: townhouses, a giant apartment/condo place, the school, traditional houses, and old places that serve as apartments, and those old school retail places. When the former Chelsea market gets its shit together, its gonna be, as the kids say, 100. 

 

You’re right, it is very “Montrose”

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I used to live in one of those apartments, but the one that was off of Montrose. They demolished for the high rise that's there now. Such a nice old school place! Oh and it was definitely haunted.

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A different rendering perspective than the one on the sign, found on Manzel Homes web site. The Museum Tower sure has an ugly back wall. Too bad they don't find a way to screen it.803436158_museumdistrict.jpeg.6e68a604b206d6910ca8b8f5ea6b7f99.jpeg

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3 hours ago, Darb64 said:

A different rendering perspective than the one on the sign, found on Manzel Homes web site. The Museum Tower sure has an ugly back wall. Too bad they don't find a way to screen it.803436158_museumdistrict.jpeg.6e68a604b206d6910ca8b8f5ea6b7f99.jpeg

Ivy will do the trick.

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Hmmmm .... a bit disappointing that the new perspective has the new row of townhouses so close to the street.  It will make the whole street seem a bit crowded in for the area ad (IMO) less desirable.

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11 minutes ago, Toopicky said:

Hmmmm .... a bit disappointing that the new perspective has the new row of townhouses so close to the street.  It will make the whole street seem a bit crowded in for the area ad (IMO) less desirable.

 

Townhouses are no longer planned here. As mentioned by @HNathoo, it's for the school to expand.

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1 minute ago, Urbannizer said:

 

 

Townhouses are no longer planned here. As mentioned by @HNathoo, it's for the school to expand.

 

You mean The Joy School? Was going to ask if we should move this to the Museum District Subforum because its just townhomes, but I guess we should leave it here for an announcement? We normally don't leave schools on going up.

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1 hour ago, Urbannizer said:

 

 

Townhouses are no longer planned here. As mentioned by @HNathoo, it's for the school to expand.

 

Confirmed .... it's owned by The Joy School.

I wonder why it still appears on the  Manzel Homes website? (tsk tsk)

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8 hours ago, Toopicky said:

 

Confirmed .... it's owned by The Joy School.

I wonder why it still appears on the  Manzel Homes website? (tsk tsk)

I'd forgotten about that post.  For what it's worth, the rendering was also on HAR.

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Demo has begun but one building seems to either being spared or they simply haven't gotten to it yet.

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They removed some of the brick on the eastern building but most of the rest has been hauled away.

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Earlier this year a post said that The Joy School owned this property. I find it hard to imagine why they would want to build a townhouse on it .... perhaps housing for the head master? Gotta love the perks if so.

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New developments at the Joy School "Expansion" are getting weird.

 

Along the backside of the school itself, new posts with address numbers have appeared all along the street ...

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and their other structure across Portland  is now appearing as a near duplicate of the adjacent townhouses ....

 

 

 

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Could it possibly be that the expansion of the school is not an expansion after all, and that they are planning to complete the original townhouse project?  It just isn't clear, as in the first photo you also see a new gate in the fence between the school and the back of lot from which the old apartments were recently cleared.  My bet is that the townhouse project is the most likely.

 

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For $40,000 per academic year it should be a gold plated building.

 

From Community Impact Newspaper I get every month.

 

The Joy School

Grades served: Kindergarten to eighth grade

Application deadline: Rolling basis

Enrollment: 150

Tuition per academic year: $40,000

Special programs/extracurriculars: Caters to learning differences and learning disabilities

1 Chelsea Blvd., Houston

713-523-0660

www.thejoyschool.org

 

https://communityimpact.com/houston/heights-river-oaks-montrose/education/2019/11/16/houston-private-school-guide-2019-prek-12-schools-tuition-enrollment-deadlines/?utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook_Community_Impact_Heights_%2F_River_Oaks_%2F_Montrose&fbclid=IwAR2PusSMderHy5yBn8Lg9hb_x6Oz7fFIZP9QZUcHglm2FoyzgrbwwYF5a1A

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1 hour ago, hindesky said:

For $40,000 per academic year it should be a gold plated building.

 

From Community Impact Newspaper I get every month.

 

The Joy School

Grades served: Kindergarten to eighth grade

Application deadline: Rolling basis

Enrollment: 150

Tuition per academic year: $40,000

Special programs/extracurriculars: Caters to learning differences and learning disabilities

1 Chelsea Blvd., Houston

713-523-0660

www.thejoyschool.org

 

https://communityimpact.com/houston/heights-river-oaks-montrose/education/2019/11/16/houston-private-school-guide-2019-prek-12-schools-tuition-enrollment-deadlines/?utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook_Community_Impact_Heights_%2F_River_Oaks_%2F_Montrose&fbclid=IwAR2PusSMderHy5yBn8Lg9hb_x6Oz7fFIZP9QZUcHglm2FoyzgrbwwYF5a1A

I've known a couple of kids who went there, and it was worth every penny for them and their parents, who were fortunate enough to have the wealth to pay the bill. Top notch education for kids with a variety of learning issues.

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  Checked the Harris County tax role plats where the classic Portland apartments once stood, and they  have indeed been replanted into townhouse sized lots .... it looks like the original "Museum Estates on Portland" concept is back on (perhaps by a new developer).  The Joy School is NOT EXPANDING

 

 

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37 minutes ago, Toopicky said:

 

 

 

 

 

 

  Checked the Harris County tax role plats where the classic Portland apartments once stood, and they  have indeed been replanted into townhouse sized lots .... it looks like the original "Museum Estates on Portland" concept is back on (perhaps by a new developer).  The Joy School is NOT EXPANDING

 

 

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I think the original developer replatted this into a townhome development, then abandoned their plans and sold to the joy school, whom has yet to replat this back to a commercial reserve. 

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10 hours ago, HNathoo said:


I think the original developer replatted this into a townhome development, then abandoned their plans and sold to the joy school, whom has yet to replat this back to a commercial reserve. 

 

How do you explain the school installing new address posts (pictured in post above) that appeared over the weekend? There are a multiple of them all along the north side of the street (more than the previous 4 addresses of the apartment buildings). Also consider that a townhouse is being built on the other Joy School lot at 205(ish) Portland just down the street.

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1 hour ago, Toopicky said:

 

How do you explain the school installing new address posts (pictured in post above) that appeared over the weekend? There are a multiple of them all along the north side of the street (more than the previous 4 addresses of the apartment buildings). Also consider that a townhouse is being built on the other Joy School lot at 205(ish) Portland just down the street.


The addresses probably have something to do with a possible replat. The property across the street doesn’t really have anything to do with them. 

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12 minutes ago, HNathoo said:


The addresses probably have something to do with a possible replat. The property across the street doesn’t really have anything to do with them. 

 

.... but it does provide evidence that the owners of the Joy School are into building townhouses. 

Besides, a replat doesn't need physical addresses posted on the street, although addresses would be helpful in efficiently delivering supplies to a larger construction site.

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3 minutes ago, Toopicky said:

 

.... but it does provide evidence that the owners of the Joy School are into building townhouses. 

Besides, a replat doesn't need physical addresses posted on the street, although addresses would be helpful in efficiently delivering supplies to a larger construction site.


I guess we’ll have to wait and see. My gut tells me the joy school isn’t in the business of building townhomes. 

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To be clear, the townhouse under construction across the street (205'ish Portland) is not owned by The Joy School and would seem to tell us nothing about what The Joy School plans for their property.

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On a related note, what’s the story with the abandoned house caddy corner from this development at 120 Portland St? It’s in ROUGH shape and has been for a while. I was driving down that street last night and I’m pretty sure squatters live there since I saw one laying out on the stoop.

 

I believe it used to be a restaurant back in the 70s/80s.

 

EDIT: Oh wow, I just read this on the Wikipedia page for none other than Joseph Finger:

On 6 February 1953, a month short of his 66th birthday, Finger died at his home at 120 Portland Street.”

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7 hours ago, Toopicky said:

 

How do you explain the school installing new address posts (pictured in post above) that appeared over the weekend? There are a multiple of them all along the north side of the street (more than the previous 4 addresses of the apartment buildings). Also consider that a townhouse is being built on the other Joy School lot at 205(ish) Portland just down the street.

 

There are 8 of the little address stakes, indicating 5 addresses:  216, 220 (2 stakes), 234, 238 (2 stakes), and 242 (2 stakes) Portland.

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5 hours ago, clutchcity94 said:

On a related note, what’s the story with the abandoned house caddy corner from this development at 120 Portland St? It’s in ROUGH shape and has been for a while. I was driving down that street last night and I’m pretty sure squatters live there since I saw one laying out on the stoop.

 

I believe it used to be a restaurant back in the 70s/80s.

 

EDIT: Oh wow, I just read this on the Wikipedia page for none other than Joseph Finger:

On 6 February 1953, a month short of his 66th birthday, Finger died at his home at 120 Portland Street.”

From the Clerk's site, it was sold to Joe E Lee in 1968 by Gertrude Levy Finger, then in 1973 to a married couple, then transferred to the current owner after, presumably, a divorce in 1979. There have been a couple of City notices about the condition of the property.

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3 hours ago, Ross said:

From the Clerk's site, it was sold to Joe E Lee in 1968 by Gertrude Levy Finger, then in 1973 to a married couple, then transferred to the current owner after, presumably, a divorce in 1979. There have been a couple of City notices about the condition of the property.


what website did you find that? I just see one name on HCAD’s site.

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11 minutes ago, clutchcity94 said:


what website did you find that? I just see one name on HCAD’s site.

Harris County Clerk Real Property Records. Search for the current owner as the grantee, then go backwards. It's not always obvious what terms to use, as the spellings are sometimes off, or change from buying to selling.

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