Sky-guy Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 That size would be akin to something along the lines of a City Target. Not massive, but decent in size. My thoughts exactly: 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toxtethogrady Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 Now THIS is the grocery that needs to become a first floor tenant. http://valhallamovement.com/link/this-zero-waste-grocery-store-has-no-packaging-plastic-or-big-name-brands/ 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LarryDierker Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 Sure hope the retail at this location is something other than a target. downtown shopping district should be something of a destination, not a place to grab some TP and pantene on your way home from work. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moore713 Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 The new hotel on Dallas will also have GFR retail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sky-guy Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 Sure hope the retail at this location is something other than a target. downtown shopping district should be something of a destination, not a place to grab some TP and pantene on your way home from work. With all of the new residential development in Downtown, a target would do really well. Whee else can someone buy some TP and Pantene in downtown? People living in DT, shouldn't have to leave DT to buy basic necessities. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LarryDierker Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 With all of the new residential development in Downtown, a target would do really well. Whee else can someone buy some TP and Pantene in downtown? People living in DT, shouldn't have to leave DT to buy basic necessities. I don't disagree with anything you said, just the location. This location needs to be something special if it's to be the linchpin of the shopping district. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nole23 Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 Let's not forget that there is an urban CVS two blocks from this site downtown where residents can get all of their toiletry needs 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downtownian Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 Let's not forget that there is an urban CVS two blocks from this site downtown where residents can get all of their toiletry needs I'll stop by the CVS on my walk home from work when I need things urgently but generally I just use Amazon Prime. I've gotten really good at bulk ordering and I always have two day lead time for items. I only travel outside of downtown for clothing (need to ensure fit) and books / vinyl records (like to support local book / record stores). Everything else ("necessities", electronics, food - Instacart or Favor app), I get delivered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigereye Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 (edited) Let's not forget that there is an urban CVS two blocks from this site downtown where residents can get all of their toiletry needs Since its conveniently located for me, I do go to that CVS for a variety of reasons and needs. Heck so much, I even got a CVS card recently lol But if City Target opened up at 1111 Main, CVS may lose some of my business. Urban CVS has some things but due to its space constraints, it can't jam everything in that small store. By comparison, a 90,000 sq ft City Target will likely provide way more goods than the current mini-CVS. Edited September 9, 2015 by tigereye Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cspwal Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 What would be nice is a small book store in downtown...Brown Book Shop is nice for technical books but lacks any variety Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triton Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 What would be nice is a small book store in downtown...Brown Book Shop is nice for technical books but lacks any variety Although there were a lot of mixed views about it, we did have a Books-A-Million at GreenStreet (then the Pavillions). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate99 Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 Although there were a lot of mixed views about it, we did have a Books-A-Million at GreenStreet (then the Pavillions). And before that, there was a bookstore (Book Stop, maybe?)in the Park Shops. I'm not optimistic that retail bookstores that don't have a particular niche have much of a future anywhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cspwal Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 That's actually what I would like somewhere downtown - a small used book store somewhere, maybe in an older building Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloud713 Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 Sounds like a "Half Priced Books"..? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate99 Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 That's actually what I would like somewhere downtown - a small used book store somewhere, maybe in an older building Things are changing, hopefully all kinds of stuff that wouldn't have worked before DT will now. I want a hardware store personally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H-Town Man Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 Rents are generally prohibitive for small book stores in urban centers. Harvard Square once had about 15 booksellers, now it has 1 or 2 outside of the university bookstore, which is obviously not a market-based lease. Rice Village 15 years ago had 3 used booksellers with another one not far away on Bissonnet; now all are gone except Half Price Books. Then again, Book People in Austin does a thriving business in a prime location next to the Whole Foods, and Powell's Books in Portland occupies a full city block in the heart everything. The lesson seems to be, if the market doesn't support going small, go big. Also, I wouldn't close the door permanently on brick-and-mortar bookstores, especially not used ones. If vinyl records can make a comeback, so can books. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobruss Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 Its funny how things change. When I was a young boy my parents would go down town on Saturday and take us to the movies at the Metropolitan or the Loews. We'd then go over to either I think it was called Simpson's diner across the street, or walk over to Walker I believe and go to the James Coney Island and eat dogs at the old school desks. After that my mother would march us over to Foleys or Sakowitz for some things, go down the street for shoes and then get an ice cream treat on Main next to the theaters. That was shopping in Houston when I was a child. Too bad we lost all that when they opened Gulfgate and Meyerland. Then came the really big malls like Sharpstown and Memorial City which caused everything to close downtown and move out to the burbs. Its ironic and along with the trolleys and interurbans we had a fairly nice mass transportation system. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urbannizer Posted September 9, 2015 Author Share Posted September 9, 2015 Anyone know who the finalist are; any info on their proposals? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monarch Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 Anyone know who the finalist are; any info on their proposals?^^^ probably, on or around 15 September, we should be made aware. at least this is what the chronicle is indicating.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigereye Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 Anyone know who the finalist are; any info on their proposals?I bet one of them is the fabled, mythical 102 story W Hotel. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lestat Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 I bet one of them is the fabled, mythical 102 story W Hotel.Good heavens, that would be amazing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate99 Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 Good heavens, that would be amazing! The bad news is that it will be tan stucco. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
por favor gracias Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 The bad news is that it will be tan stucco. Holy crap...that could actually look worse than the Mercer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samagon Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 Rents are generally prohibitive for small book stores in urban centers. Harvard Square once had about 15 booksellers, now it has 1 or 2 outside of the university bookstore, which is obviously not a market-based lease. Rice Village 15 years ago had 3 used booksellers with another one not far away on Bissonnet; now all are gone except Half Price Books. Then again, Book People in Austin does a thriving business in a prime location next to the Whole Foods, and Powell's Books in Portland occupies a full city block in the heart everything. The lesson seems to be, if the market doesn't support going small, go big. Also, I wouldn't close the door permanently on brick-and-mortar bookstores, especially not used ones. If vinyl records can make a comeback, so can books. actual B&M bookstores aren't going to go away completely. Amazon killed quite a few, but what isn't already dead, probably (hopefully) won't die. That is such a good thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigFootsSocks Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 (edited) The bad news is that it will be tan stucco.Could imagine the logistical nightmare, not to mention the absolute balls-to-the-wall insanity a stucco'd tower would be? I'd almost be inclined to appreciate it at least Edited September 10, 2015 by BigFootsSocks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toxtethogrady Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 Holy crap...that could actually look worse than the Mercer. worser... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astros148 Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 thought we'd hear some sort of update/leak seeing how the deadline was a month ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nate4l1f3 Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 thought we'd hear some sort of update/leak seeing how the deadline was a month ago.Don't worry the Houston Chronicle has their top men on it....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate99 Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 (edited) Don't worry the Houston Chronicle has their top men on it....... In real estate, I'm pretty sure the Chron's "top men" is whoever reads Urbannizer's posts on this board. Edited October 20, 2015 by Nate99 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoustonIsHome Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 Don't worry the Houston Chronicle has their top men on it.......There's only bottom men at the chronicle 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nate4l1f3 Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 In real estate, I'm pretty sure the Chron's "top men" is whoever reads Urbannizer's posts on this board.Haha my post was meant to be read in that tone 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elseed Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 Any update on this project? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astros148 Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 nope, which is a sign of bad news to come imo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoustonIsHome Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 nope, which is a sign of bad news to come imoI am of the opposite opinion. I would rather this building stay in its current state and evolve into some major retail option if the Dallas Corridor picks up as a shopping district than to demolish it in favor of a souless box which most likely be it's replacement. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urbannizer Posted January 8, 2016 Author Share Posted January 8, 2016 Any update on this project? http://www.houstonarchitecture.com/haif/topic/28745-retail-district-planned-to-be-centered-around-dallas-st/?p=522054 btw i heard a well known and very familiar developer has won out on the sakowitz building.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triton Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 (edited) Randall Davis Edited January 8, 2016 by Triton 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urbannizer Posted January 8, 2016 Author Share Posted January 8, 2016 Hines 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triton Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 Midway 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H-Town Man Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 (edited) btw i heard a well known and very familiar developer has won out on the sakowitz building.. -swtsig Edited January 8, 2016 by H-Town Man 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urbannizer Posted January 8, 2016 Author Share Posted January 8, 2016 PMRG 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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cspwal Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 Going off that - maybe it will be a mattress firm. Downtown is horribly underserved by Montrose standards, as there isn't a store every 3 blocks 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigFootsSocks Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 Lovett? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigFootsSocks Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 (edited) . Edited January 8, 2016 by BigFootsSocks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mab Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 I would love hines to be the developer but I wouldn't be surprised if the city picked Midway. With Greenstreet being next door it would be a perfect opportunity to expand Greenstreet. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urbannizer Posted January 13, 2017 Author Share Posted January 13, 2017 Pg 13. http://www.downtowntirz.com/downtownhouston/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/FS-2016-Main-Street-Market-Square-final-report-UPDATED.pdf The Authority issued a Request for Qualifications (RFQ) for the development of 1111 Main and 1010 Lamar as part of the Shopping District series of projects beginning in fiscal year 2015. The project is still in early development and if it is successful and a mixed‐use project is developed on the site, the Authority anticipates that public incentives may be needed to achieve a significant soft goods retail component in the project in fulfillment of the directives from the Mayor’s Retail Task Force. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate99 Posted January 13, 2017 Share Posted January 13, 2017 4 minutes ago, Urbannizer said: Pg 13. http://www.downtowntirz.com/downtownhouston/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/FS-2016-Main-Street-Market-Square-final-report-UPDATED.pdf On 6/17/2015 at 0:13 PM, H-Town Man said: And it's gonna take money A whole lot of public money It's gonna take plenty of money To do it right... Paraphrasing George Harrison. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H-Town Man Posted January 13, 2017 Share Posted January 13, 2017 (edited) Translation: We, the city of Houston, want badly to see fancy retail in the 1100 block of Main, but we don't want it badly enough to actually shop there to the extent that the economics will work. So we will pay tax money to any retailer who will set up there, to make up for the lack of money we will pay shopping at the store. If it's tax reductions to jump start retail as happened with the DLI, then I can be for it. That would be consistent, and the DLI did its job. Still a little icky though. Edited January 13, 2017 by H-Town Man 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CREguy13 Posted January 13, 2017 Share Posted January 13, 2017 I'm okay with letting this sit for the time being. I'd like to see the natural progression with a few years after all these high-end residential units coming online. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoustonIsHome Posted January 13, 2017 Share Posted January 13, 2017 Downtown foot traffic has picked up, while the homeless population in that spot has gone down. There is still no big draw to Main Street Square though. Forever 21 is ok, but not enough. The Park Shops and Greenstreet are too inward facing. As far as department stores go are they still popular? I'm not sure what it's going to take to Jumpstart retail but I think it has to be visual. People need to be able to see in. I think low end retail would work wonders here for now. Lower end than even Macy's. With the Galleria, ROD, Highland Village, River Oaks and Rice Village all in close proximity I don't see much high end coming to downtown soon. Don't laugh but I would put in Ross, Marshalls, Target, a general goods store, a Houston souvenir shop, A sports merchandise shop, a smoke shop, Petsmart, expand that CVS, bring in an urban version of Specs, throw in some restaurants, bars and about a dozen lower end retailers such as Rainbow, Old Navy, Bath and Body works, Lids, Sephora. That will keep the nearby residents interested. Once the crowds become regular we can step up the game. I do think we may need something like a Williams Sonoma soon. Something with home goods 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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