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Battlesteins Redevelopment At 812 Main St.


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As has been pointed out, a new "plywood, painted black, construction wall" was erected in front of this building a few weeks ago.

As I walked by today, the Plywood door was open as was the actual building door. There was some kind of construction (or destruction) activity going on inside. Could not see anything except miscellaneous tools and carts and shop lights, but could hear the work going on.

Just saying..... Something is up.....

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56 minutes ago, wilcal said:

Kind of torn on what I would like to see here. 

 

As long as it isn't turned into parking. 

 

It very well might be. Parking is all the rage downtown. Although I would think they would have signed a long lease with the garage they've been using. And I don't think there are any curb cuts along this part of Main so I doubt the city would allow one, but we've certainly shot Texas Ave full of curb cuts so I wouldn't be surprised.

 

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21 minutes ago, j_cuevas713 said:

And its location on Main. I'm hoping they somehow connect the hotel to this building and possibly make additional rooms. 

 

They definitely connect at the tunnel/basement level, though who knows what is down there in the Battelstein space.  Does the JW have any meeting or amenity space on the second or third floor?  JW could at a minimum expand the lobby at the street level and have a second set of elevators that take you up in the other "tower".   

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11 minutes ago, Nate99 said:

 

They definitely connect at the tunnel/basement level, though who knows what is down there in the Battelstein space.  Does the JW have any meeting or amenity space on the second or third floor?  JW could at a minimum expand the lobby at the street level and have a second set of elevators that take you up in the other "tower".   

Exactly. I highly doubt they will demo this building. 

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Good news, but too bad they couldn't have gotten it while they were doing the JW construction.  I seem to recall media reports indicating that the hotel developers made offers but couldn't reach a deal.  My own wild speculation is that they have some contingencies drawn up for back-of-the-house uses for it.  Agree parking seems like an impossibility.  If nothing else,  a refresh of street-side face should be on the way, and  long overdue.

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27 minutes ago, Texasota said:

Assuming it's 50' wide, I'd think you could do 2 units per floor. They'd need to be lofts so natural light could get to the back, but that's not a particularly unusual floor plan. 

 

Yes, I suppose you could.  But lofts don't match up very well with the product offered by the JWMarriott.  I suspect they will go a different route with this building.

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On 12/15/2018 at 0:23 PM, UtterlyUrban said:

Meeting rooms, ball room, restaurant, expanded spa, gym, indoor pool, .......

 

I am thinking that this might be a way to expand “infrastructure” .... not “additional guest rooms”

Why not both?  More infrastructure towards the back, but have the front where the windows are be more guest rooms

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2 hours ago, Avossos said:

This will likely be a hotel of its own... Think a more affordable Marriott flag...

 

There is nothing that states this will be a JW Marriott expansion. Pearl does many hotels.

 

I don't see how they could get enough windows in the building to create a stand-alone hotel, unless it's a very specialized boutique... maybe 50 rooms?

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32 minutes ago, Houston19514 said:

 

I don't see how they could get enough windows in the building to create a stand-alone hotel, unless it's a very specialized boutique... maybe 50 rooms?

 

13 minutes ago, mollusk said:

There are windows on the back, with a glorious view of the air shaft.  Perhaps they could market those rooms as having an "authentic urban vibe."

 

I don’t see how it is much different than the Hyatt place hotel going in on Texas Ave. that too has limited front windows and difficult or no light on the side.

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17 minutes ago, Avossos said:

 

 

I don’t see how it is much different than the Hyatt place hotel going in on Texas Ave. that too has limited front windows and difficult or no light on the side.

 

It's actually quite different from the Hyatt Place.  That building has windows on the front, the vast majority of the east side, at least half of the west side and part of the south side.  The subject building has windows on the front and maybe an opportunity to add a few windows on the part of the north side. That's it.

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20 minutes ago, Houston19514 said:

 

It's actually quite different from the Hyatt Place.  That building has windows on the front, the vast majority of the east side, at least half of the west side and part of the south side.  The subject building has windows on the front and maybe an opportunity to add a few windows on the part of the north side. That's it.

 

I desperately want an Ace Hotel in Houston. Those are my favorite.

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2 hours ago, Avossos said:

 

I desperately want an Ace Hotel in Houston. Those are my favorite.

 

Same. If a city has an Ace, I stay there.

 

31 minutes ago, kbates2 said:

Don't Capitol Lofts and Kirby Lofts have many units with only one wall of windows that are fairly deep?

 

For Capitol, the entire front of the building is floor to ceiling windows. The sides of Capitol Lofts actually open to interior courtyards (you can see it on google maps satellite view). One of the courtyards is bounded by Club Quarters and the soon to be open AC Hotel and you can see the top of BG Group Place from it. There are balconies both over main street and one of the courtyards which makes it a lot less claustrophobic.

 

Looks like there is a courtyard between Battlestein and the JW.

 

Note: I'm using courtyard loosely here. More like spaces between buildings.

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24 minutes ago, Texasota said:

Battelstein's was just listed in the National Register of Historic Places.

That seems like a *very* good sign, and might also explain the delay.

 

That means they will seek historic restoration tax credits... good.

 

How did you find this out?

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Here is a cool link i found. They definitely applied and it was pending in late January...

 

https://www.thc.texas.gov/public/upload/preserve/national_register/draft_nominations/Battelstein's NR - SBR Draft.pdf

 

https://www.nps.gov/subjects/nationalregister/pending-list-20191228.htm

 

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According to documents recently filed with the Harris County Clerk's office, the Battlestein's Building at 812 Main St has been sold.

Documents indicate SWVP JW Houston LLC  acquired the property. SWVP JW Houston LLC is an entity of Southwest Value Partners, a San Diego-based real estate investment company.

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Recent posts about the Battlestein's Building at 812 Main St discussed in the topic for 806 Main St:

https://www.houstonarchitecture.com/haif/topic/22874-jw-marriott-hotel-downtown-at-806-main-st

 

 

On 12/8/2022 at 7:48 AM, editor said:

Work was underway on the adjacent, abandoned building yesterday.    I'm pretty sure I read here on HAIF that the abandoned building is going to become part of the hotel next door.

Construction workers were inside and appeared to be gutting the place.  Lots of debris.

 

On 12/12/2022 at 9:12 PM, downtownian said:

There is always that weird smell going from the building whenever I walk by

 

On 12/15/2022 at 3:47 PM, rechlin said:

They are removing the old awning:

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On 12/15/2022 at 5:50 PM, mattyt36 said:

I could've sworn I read on here that the building (former Battlestein's) was sold by whoever owns the JW Marriott, but I can't seem to find the thread, so maybe I dreamt it.

 

On 12/21/2022 at 1:57 PM, editor said:

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Awning is gone, and all the windows are open.  Maybe they're airing it out?  It's probably a bit rank in there.

 

On 12/21/2022 at 2:26 PM, j_cuevas713 said:

I love those windows. Another historical building saved! 

 

 

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16 minutes ago, IntheKnowHouston said:

Recent posts about the Battlestein's Building at 812 Main St discussed in an unrelated topic:

https://www.houstonarchitecture.com/haif/topic/22874-jw-marriott-hotel-downtown-at-806-main-st

 

 

 

 

 

 

So it is accurate it was sold, but so was the JW.  So good news for the JW and sorta good news for my memory!

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Just now, mattyt36 said:

So it is accurate it was sold, but so was the JW.  So good news for the JW and sorta good news for my memory!


Correct. I don't know what's in store for the Battlestein's Building, but maybe it's this:


 

On 12/18/2022 at 8:42 PM, Houknew said:

I can’t reveal my sources but JW Marriott is expanding. Will also be adding a pool.

From this topic: https://www.houstonarchitecture.com/haif/topic/22874-jw-marriott-hotel-downtown-at-806-main-st




 

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On 12/8/2022 at 7:48 AM, editor said:

Work was underway on the adjacent, abandoned building yesterday.    I'm pretty sure I read here on HAIF that the abandoned building is going to become part of the hotel next door.

Construction workers were inside and appeared to be gutting the place.  Lots of debris.




 A plan review permit from November for the Battlesteins Building at 812 Main St.


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