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There is not a lot of business travel between Houston and India. There are a lot of Indians in Houston who travel to India though, but when they fly to visit home, it's a personal trip so usually a cheapest fare Kayak or travel agent ticket is bought rather than full fare business class tickets that United likes to count on for its routes

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Part of me is curious what you mean Slick, and the other half is preparing for the worse.

I'm Indian and I've done a fair bit of research on India bound flights and business class. The representation is poor and it hampers a lot of flights into becoming defunct or starting from the first place.

There is not a lot of business travel between Houston and India. There are a lot of Indians in Houston who travel to India though, but when they fly to visit home, it's a personal trip so usually a cheapest fare Kayak or travel agent ticket is bought rather than full fare business class tickets that United likes to count on for its routes

Or a last minute upgrade that Turkish sells and Qatar and emirates occasionally offer as well. Etihad and air India also offer these from other cities.

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Any chance we see IAH-VVI (Santa Cruz) when UA transitions their 757's off Trans-Atlantic routes? It should be within the plane's capabilities. I just don't know if the gas industry has the demand to drive the route.

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Please fly to Medellin direct and ill be the first to buy a ticket

That would be easier, 737 could do it. I was wondering why Avianca not flying Houston from Bogota or Medellin?

Please fly to Medellin direct and ill be the first to buy a ticket

That would be easier, 737 could do it. I was wondering why Avianca not flying Houston from Bogota or Medellin?

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That would be easier, 737 could do it. I was wondering why Avianca not flying Houston from Bogota or Medellin?

That would be easier, 737 could do it. I was wondering why Avianca not flying Houston from Bogota or Medellin?

 

Medellin will be the new hotspot in South America in 5 years. It was the most beautiful city ive ever witnessed in my life

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So I was reading the annual ''state of the airports'' report by Mr. Diaz of HAS and he says their main focus in 2016 is to continue to expand international service. In 2015 we saw the arrival of Eva, Al Nippon, Volaris and Air New Zealand. Does anybody have any inside info on any new carriers in the works? I still think it would be cool to get a direct to Johannesburg or maybe Tel Aviv. Last year, Mr. Diaz noted that they're working hard to expand service to Africa.

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Diaz mentioned a N/S African Air Route and an E/W African Air Route.  To me this means South African Airways and Ethiopian Airlines.  Both are Star Alliance.  Hopefully Diaz can close the deals. 

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Given Ethiopian's look for another US route, and Mr. Diaz's penchant for rounding up new plane tails, I'd think ADD would be a nice possibility.  They'd offer some Middle East connections without the need to backtrack.  I still think ORD would make more sense for them than Houston but Korean Air was a surprise and seems to be sticking around.

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14 hours ago, houstontexasjack said:

Given Ethiopian's look for another US route, and Mr. Diaz's penchant for rounding up new plane tails, I'd think ADD would be a nice possibility.  They'd offer some Middle East connections without the need to backtrack.  I still think ORD would make more sense for them than Houston but Korean Air was a surprise and seems to be sticking around.

 

Air New Zealand was also a surprise because a lot of people thought ORD would get the nod over Houston. That however only made more sense being that by the time they get to the US, they're probably already running on fumes and out of an abundance of safety, Houston was the obvious choice probably. 

 

For the last few years, we've added foreign flags to Terminal D. Last year alone we added four or five. I suspect we'll see another two or three this year so Ethiopian wouldn't surprise me.

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Star Alliance airlines have better connections in IAH.  To travel to Latin America and South America and the Olympic games coming soon.  Or also New Orleans, Florida is better.  Also United will give you 2 day stopover free if booked on united.com.  ET may be the next airline to fly from IAH since they have the 787.  

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3 hours ago, wxman said:

 

Air New Zealand was also a surprise because a lot of people thought ORD would get the nod over Houston. That however only made more sense being that by the time they get to the US, they're probably already running on fumes and out of an abundance of safety, Houston was the obvious choice probably. 

 

For the last few years, we've added foreign flags to Terminal D. Last year alone we added four or five. I suspect we'll see another two or three this year so Ethiopian wouldn't surprise me.

 

I agree with respect to Air New Zealand.  They wanted to run the route with the 777, and ORD is a hair too far for the westbound leg of the route.  The 789 probably could have made ORD, but Air NZ configures it for more Asian routes.

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And Air New Zealand is doing even better than hoped. NZ will be adding frequency soon. 

 

Additionally, the A380 is back this summer with Emirates. 

 

 

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On 4/13/2016 at 1:46 PM, KinkaidAlum said:

And Air New Zealand is doing even better than hoped. NZ will be adding frequency soon. 

 

Additionally, the A380 is back this summer with Emirates. 

 

 

 

An Emirates A380 flew right over my head when I was driving down Will Clayton a couple of weeks ago. Did they not go back to the triple seven, or am I missing something?

 

 

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3 hours ago, The Voice of University Oaks said:

 

An Emirates A380 flew right over my head when I was driving down Will Clayton a couple of weeks ago. Did they not go back to the triple seven, or am I missing something?

 

 

Flew on the A380 in December. Didn't see any boeings while there. Maybe it was the timing?

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On 4/18/2016 at 5:24 PM, The Voice of University Oaks said:

 

An Emirates A380 flew right over my head when I was driving down Will Clayton a couple of weeks ago. Did they not go back to the triple seven, or am I missing something?

 

 

 

The A380 will run until June. It switches to a 777 in July.

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It's interesting that Mr. Diaz wants to expand IAH operations into Africa yet I just found out from a buddy who works at United that they cut the Houston-Lagos, Nigeria route on June 30th. We are no longer an airport that services all inhabitable continents. :(

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Lagos is a hot mess right now. Think Caracas. Their currency has fallen off a cliff so the government their froze foreign exchanges leaving the airlines owed over $600 million dollars. United and Iberia have already left the market. Others have lowered the number of flights or seats offered to the market. Even British Air, which has served the country for over 80 years going back to colonial days, is hinting at exited the market. 

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2 hours ago, KinkaidAlum said:

Lagos is a hot mess right now. Think Caracas. Their currency has fallen off a cliff so the government their froze foreign exchanges leaving the airlines owed over $600 million dollars. United and Iberia have already left the market. Others have lowered the number of flights or seats offered to the market. Even British Air, which has served the country for over 80 years going back to colonial days, is hinting at exited the market. 

 

There's the whole revival of the Biafra separatism issue along with the ongoing Boko Haram and associated Sahel extremism. Nigeria is going to be a mess for a while, possibly a decade or more.

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That would be awesome! With Air India being part of Star Alliance, I bet Houston wins the duel between us and Dallas. It'll be nice to have another big bird landing at IAH. Looks like they operate a lot of triple 7's on their international flights but they also still utilize the 47-4 and the 87. Would be cool to have more 47-4 service at IAH, too. 

 

The article is confusing. The title seems definitive that Houston and Los Angeles were selected for service but in the body of the article it says it's between Houston and Dallas. Which is it?

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7 hours ago, houstontexasjack said:

Air India is apparently putting Houston back on the table for expansion after announcing an anticipated launch date for LAX:

 

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/air-india-to-add-los-angeles-houston-in-its-list-of-us-destinations/articleshow/59499919.cms 

 

Air India is a mess and the Indian government is trying to sell it, but analysts say it will difficult to privatize due to all its troubles.

So I would be cautious about being excited about the possibility for new service.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-07-11/air-india-s-salvador-dali-ashtrays-and-surreal-debt-cloud-sale

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According to wikipedia Korean Airlines will be ending service to Seoul October 13th. Is this true? It's the first I hear of it and seems very sudden.

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On 9/17/2017 at 5:33 PM, HoustonBoy said:

According to wikipedia Korean Airlines will be ending service to Seoul October 13th. Is this true? It's the first I hear of it and seems very sudden.

This is from Routes on line.

 

Korean Air in recent schedule and inventory update adjusted planned Seoul Incheon – Houston route, with last flight scheduled on 10OCT17. Despite schedule listing shows service to resume from 29OCT17, reservation for this 3 weekly is closed on/after this date.

Previously planned schedule during winter season (05NOV17 – 09MAR18) as follow.

KE029 ICN0935 – 0735IAH 772 257
KE030 IAH0940 – 1555+1ICN 772 7
KE030 IAH0950 – 1605+1ICN 772 25

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On ‎9‎/‎17‎/‎2017 at 5:33 PM, HoustonBoy said:

Is this true? It's the first I hear of it and seems very sudden.

 

Yup.

Well, when the route was announced back in 2014, it was kind of sudden then too. Only fitting that it ends suddenly. Kudos to Korean Air for having the Houston route as long as they did. Right after they announced the route, United announced double daily service to Tokyo. Then Eva Air and ANA entered the Houston market. Also, without an alliance hub in Houston, Korean Air could only rely on local traffic, which is not that much between Houston and Korea. 

 

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As you enter IAH from JFK blvd, you'll notice all the signs along the left side of the road directing you to the one of the terminals based on your airline. I noticed yesterday that there is another Terminal D airlines sign that is up (and blank) but I assume they are anticipating more foreign flags soon. Any word on anything heading our way this year?

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On 3/28/2018 at 7:20 PM, Slick Vik said:

Interjet starting IAH-BJX June 22. There is huge demand here as United runs 4 flights a day.

 

Looks like initial fares are right at $300 RT while United is asking $638. 

 

Interjet is also flying the Sukhoi Superjet on the route. They are one of the few north american airlines using the SSJ100 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sukhoi_Superjet_100

 

It holds 93 versus United's 4X daily service with EMB-175 aircraft which have 76 seats. 

 

 

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On 4/19/2018 at 1:00 PM, wxman said:

As you enter IAH from JFK blvd, you'll notice all the signs along the left side of the road directing you to the one of the terminals based on your airline. I noticed yesterday that there is another Terminal D airlines sign that is up (and blank) but I assume they are anticipating more foreign flags soon. Any word on anything heading our way this year?

Looks like Ethiopian secures 5th freedoms to operate IAH-Accra-Addis Ababa. No start date announced yet:

 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/newsroom.aviator.aero/ethiopian-airlines-secures-rights-for-direct-flights-between-accra-and-texas/amp/

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I hope they’re considering a large expansion as they continue to cut routes from IAH to Mexico (Huatulco, Villahermosa, Mazatlan) according to wiki. I wonder if there will be an influx of business and flight routes as oil continue to creep towards $100 a barrel.

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From www.airliners.net

 

At a recent event in Houston, Scott Kirby told attendees in the coming years UA could add new nonstop service to 20 new cities from IAH including international destinations. He also stated UA is growing IAH and expects to hit 700 flights a day up from 540 although no time frame was given for when we should expect IAH to hit the 700 mark.

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On 4/30/2018 at 4:37 PM, wilcal said:

 

Looks like initial fares are right at $300 RT while United is asking $638. 

 

Interjet is also flying the Sukhoi Superjet on the route. They are one of the few north american airlines using the SSJ100 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sukhoi_Superjet_100

 

It holds 93 versus United's 4X daily service with EMB-175 aircraft which have 76 seats. 

 

 

 

The flight has disappeared 

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I read on wikipedia (such a reliable source, I know) says that as of August 2018, Emirates will add another flight (?) to Houston that will continue on to Caracas, Venezuela. Is this big news? If so, I'm sort of underwhelmed. 

 

I'm surprised at the lack of new flights/carriers at IAH this year. Does anybody else feel that way?

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8 hours ago, wxman said:

I read on wikipedia (such a reliable source, I know) says that as of August 2018, Emirates will add another flight (?) to Houston that will continue on to Caracas, Venezuela. Is this big news? If so, I'm sort of underwhelmed. 

 

I'm surprised at the lack of new flights/carriers at IAH this year. Does anybody else feel that way?

Venezuela?  I was there many decades ago.  It was good then (not great but good).  But, thanks to the socialist kleptocracy it is now essentially a failed state that is no longer safe for foreigners or locals.

 

https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/traveladvisories/traveladvisories/venezuela-travel-advisory.html

 

i wish the airline good luck selling tickets.

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2 hours ago, UtterlyUrban said:

Venezuela?  I was there many decades ago.  It was good then (not great but good).  But, thanks to the socialist kleptocracy it is now essentially a failed state that is no longer safe for foreigners or locals.

 

https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/traveladvisories/traveladvisories/venezuela-travel-advisory.html

 

i wish the airline good luck selling tickets.

 

Yeah.  That seems very unlikely.  So unlikely that it sounds more like something would read on The Onion.  ;-)

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A friend of mine who works at United said that we can expect some new non-stop European flights soon! I was told of some but am not at liberty to post it.

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Once United starts delivering 787-10 to EWR later this year, then I could see how that will open up extra aircraft for the other United hubs, including IAH. -If- IAH will indeed get more United European routes then I hope it's something other than Paris. It's fun to speculate, but United has a lot of hubs with a lot of needs, lets hope IAH doesn't get left out. 

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Paris is one.

 

We we’re chatting and he said “hey, we’re getting new international non stops on United. He said a list went out to employees.

 

i said “Mexico?” (Sigh)

he said, “no....European places.”

 

He said there are several. We’ll see.

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These would be nice:

 

IAH to Paris

IAH to Berlin

IAH to zurich

IAHto Vienna

IAH to Milan

 

Actually, what I would really want is for the international flights from the Entire NY Hub (and most of Washasington DC’s) to be picked up and moved to Houston.  That would be good!!!  Oh, and they could toss in Chicago and San Fran too.  One giant superhub that would allow me to always flight direct.  YES!  

 

Oh, I will put the ‘ludes down now.

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