wxman Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 Fresh from the rumor mill: It is my understanding that the shopping strip where Popeye's, Crabby Daddy's and others will be torn down in 2015 to make way for a high rise. How do I know this? Well, my aunt got to chit chatting with one of the owners of a business in that strip center and they said that they were going to be moving soon to a new location because the landlord of that strip center is no longer signing long-term leases. They, the businesses, were notified a few weeks back that the center will be razed and replaced with a high rise office building. I have nothing more on this but upon hearing it I had two immediate thoughts. 1: it couldn't be in a more awkward spot. 2. Traffic is already horrendous at the 45/Rayford intersection. It'll be a total cluster in that area if this is true. Seems like such a strange spot for a tower, yes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitalmeatloaf Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 Well something is going up there. J Beard Represented the buyer. Apparently it is "mixed used":http://impactnews.com/blogs/the-woodlands-impacts/coming-soon%3A-woodlands-gateway-plaza/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urbannizer Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 presentation.pdf http://impactnews.com/houston-metro/the-woodlands/eb-5-program-offers-options-for-local-business-ventures/ The Best Development Company is developing the Woodlands Gate project, a mixed-use development with 220 multifamily units and 17,000 square feet of retail space located along Hwy. 242 and FM 1488, said Jose Villamediana, BDC owner and Greater Houston Investment Center founder and principal. Villamediana said BDC is also developing three other future projects in The Woodlands area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monarch Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 lovely. now where exactly is this located? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houston? Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 I'm loving this!!!!! This is in an odd location, but it will work eventually! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigFootsSocks Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 More like this damn this looks sick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigFootsSocks Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Also in the pdf it says it's off of I45? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxman Posted October 21, 2014 Author Share Posted October 21, 2014 WOW, this looks amazing!!! So is this at 242 and 45 or 1488 and 45? The two aren't close together. So gotta be one or the other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texasota Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 I like the look of this. Shame about the location. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texasota Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Based on the site map its on the east side of 45 north of rayford. not even actually The Woodlands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texasota Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 The more I think about this the more it irritates me. The first step in good development is site selection, and this is an absolutely terrible site. The brochure crows about this thing being pedestrian oriented, but where exactly are these pedestrians coming from? There is nothing even remotely pedestrian scaled for miles around this site. Now if it were actually in the Woodlands, particularly if it were connected to the riverwalk area and Market Street, then it could actually build off of existing complementary development and contribute to a walkable district.As it stands, this is the pedestrian oriented equivalent of greenwashing. Just another place for people to drive to, walk around and shop, then drive home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxman Posted October 21, 2014 Author Share Posted October 21, 2014 I just looked at the map. This will be buried along the edge of The Woodlands in the woods at the corner of 242 and 1488. This won't be seen at all from 45 and will be pretty well hidden unless you intentially travel along 1488. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigFootsSocks Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 The impact news article says 1488 & 242 Buuut the pdf says 45 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloud713 Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Wow, what a crappy location for such a neat project.. :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luminare Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Holy flurf!!! This came way out in left field o.o I do agree...not the best location, but it looks like national/international trends might be pushing into Houston finally... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparrow Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 I thought somewhere I read that the retail center at the northeast corner of I-45 and Sawdust/Rayford was to be redeveloped as an office building, which the link shows. Perhaps the local community newspaper misquoted the gentleman. The article does discuss several different projects. The schematic clearly shows the development pictured above at 45 and Rayford where Crabby Daddy and Popeyes Chicken are currently. This location would really be the "gate" of The Woodlands. 242 and 1488 would be the "back door". The same newspaper also has a story about the Camp Strake property and a Sam Houston State medical school by the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloud713 Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 IntroducRon to the Woodlands Gate EB-‐5 Project The Woodlands Gate Project will develop, construct, and convert approximately 3.82 acres of real property located at 25192 Interstate Highway 45, The Woodlands, Texas into a 222,000 square foot mixed-‐use commercial project containing neighborhood retail, extended stay Hotel, and professional office space. idk why the quote was pasted so weird, but it looks like this may actually be on i45, in which case this is a much better location. lol. Sparrow appears to be right that its planned for where the Crabby Daddy and all that is.http://greaterhoustoninvestmentcenter.com/the-woodlands-gate/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toxtethogrady Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 That is a swell-looking building. Beats the average wrap by a mile. I just hope the developer doesn't look at his budget and decide to do some value-engineering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urbannizer Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 This site says the developers have already found a tenant for the office portion: http://www.penberaparis.com/ghic.cfm The GHIC's first approved project --Woodlands Gate-- was submitted and approved with the regional center application, and consists of 220,000 square feet of commercial, class A office space, extended stay hotel, and retail shops along highway 1-45, at the entrance to The Woodlands and proximate to the new Exxon Mobil campus. The total project cost is $66.7 million. The project company is Best Development Company (BDC), The Woodlands. The major tenant will be Lukiven, International, one of the largest gas and oil equipment, supply and service providers in Latin America. PenberaParis owns the GHIC and acts as the General Partner to BDC projects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lockmat Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 So we still don't really know the exact location Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toxtethogrady Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 This really wants to be somewhere between the Town Center and Hughes Landing. And look, it's being advertised as an EB-5 opportunity! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloud713 Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 So we still don't really know the exact locationHuh? I thought we determined that to be on the east side of i45, on the south side of the woodlands, across from that Academy and the chain food places? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toxtethogrady Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 At this point, I don't even think GHIC knows. Which is to say they don't have a property locked down. They say 242 and 1488, but that kind of in the middle of nowhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigFootsSocks Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 No I'm pretty sure we do know and you're still going off that misquoted Community Impact article, who are known for not getting their reports 100% correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bachanon Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 So, it was said at the annual Economic Outlook Conference in February that an EB-5 development would be going in at Robinson Rd. and I-45; Woodlands Parkway turns into Robinson Road on the east side of I-45. This would be in line with the sentence in the Penbera Paris notice that states: "The GHIC's first approved project --Woodlands Gate-- was submitted and approved with the regional center application, and consists of 220,000 square feet of commercial, class A office space, extended stay hotel, and retail shops along highway 1-45, at the entrance to The Woodlands and proximate to the new Exxon Mobil campus." "....at the entrance to The Woodlands.." Being the key part of the statement. My bad!!! There's more than one. Woodlands Gate looks like it is at 1488 and 242. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxman Posted November 10, 2014 Author Share Posted November 10, 2014 So, it was said at the annual Economic Outlook Conference in February that an EB-5 development would be going in at Robinson Rd. and I-45; Woodlands Parkway turns into Robinson Road on the east side of I-45. This would be in line with the sentence in the Penbera Paris notice that states: "The GHIC's first approved project --Woodlands Gate-- was submitted and approved with the regional center application, and consists of 220,000 square feet of commercial, class A office space, extended stay hotel, and retail shops along highway 1-45, at the entrance to The Woodlands and proximate to the new Exxon Mobil campus." "....at the entrance to The Woodlands.." Being the key part of the statement. My bad!!! There's more than one. Woodlands Gate looks like it is at 1488 and 242. The only place that 242 and 1488 intersect is at the back of The Woodlands. If that is indeed the location, that is nowhere near I-45. So something is off here. And what is the "entrance to The Woodlands?" Is it 1488 on I-45 south? Is it Rayford/Sawdust on I-45 north? Is it Robinson Rd. to the east at the beginning of The Woodlands Parkway? None of it makes sense to be honest with you. I made a post in another thread about an office building to be erected at the corner of I-45 and Rayford. Crabby Daddy's along with Popeyes and all the other shops in that strip center got notices last year that that property is going to be razed to make room for a highrise. At the time, I didn't give it much thought. A year later, those businesses are still thriving. Since I now live in Florida (although I'm back in The Woodlands often) somebody should stop in to Popeyes or Crabby Daddy's for lunch one day and ask if they are indeed being forced to vacate soon. I'd be interested in knowing if something has changed or not. Here's the thread I created back in April... http://www.houstonarchitecture.com/haif/topic/30183-rayford-highrise/ This article on "Woodlands Gatway Plaza" was posted back in April: http://impactnews.com/blogs/the-woodlands-impacts/coming-soon%3A-woodlands-gateway-plaza/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bachanon Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 something doesn't add up here... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toxtethogrady Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 If you think something doesn't add up, take a look at the company profile for the local office of Lukiven International. It sounds like a small outpost. Exactly how much office space are they taking? The most solid tenant in the place so far is Cambria Suites. I'm still hoping this happens, but it sounds like early days... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urbannizer Posted February 14, 2015 Share Posted February 14, 2015 SubdivisionPlatPDF_Woodlands Gate.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toxtethogrady Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 I have the nagging suspicion this will look nothing like the rendering. Color me jaded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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