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Soho Tower, 116 units   http://www.argalipartners.com/#xl_xr_page_projects  

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Cosmo is 80 units. Astoria is 75.

So either this is a wide project, very tall or about the same height as the others with much smaller units. If the latter, it would probably be a rental.

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Cosmo is 80 units. Astoria is 75.

So either this is a wide project, very tall or about the same height as the others with much smaller units. If the latter, it would probably be a rental.

#16 in your link says it's a condo tower. I believe Randall Davis only builds condos.

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#16 in your link says is a condo tower. I believe Randall Davis only builds condos.

Oops you're right, duh.

Which plot Did he get? They're all about the same size right? They're all a pretty decent footprint I thnk

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Some of the information in the brochure looked a bit dated, and there were odd errors throughout (Giorgio Barlenghi?). I'm curious that HFF had to push that hard to get a partner for a development with a Wal-Mart and a Marriott onsite.

 

But some of the proposals intrigued me. The two separate office towers proposed on Post Oak Boulevard, none of which are in the database? Awfully quiet promotion for two buildings, each exceeding 300,000 sf in space. I also see the Apache Tower is advertised as 900,000 sf of development; that's bigger than the Capitol Tower downtown, and that's 35 stories. The Randall Davis residential property is on the same block as the Skyhouse; I think one's going to top out before the other starts, and the individual units in the Davis property will be smaller than the units in the Cosmo or the Belfiore. Also, where's the Westcreek property map? 

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The plot doesn't seem that big. The Randall Davis condo tower could be quite tall.

I don't recall it being any bigger than the sky house plot. There was a plot layout on one of the first pages in the thread I believe..

But if they have a big detached parking garage it might only be in the 20 story range like SH?

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Office tower, multifamily mid-rise, townhomes, etc projected for Westcreek.

Westcreek Complex Plans Unfold, Two More Tracts for Sale: http://www.bizjournals.com/houston/blog/breaking-ground/2014/01/westcreek-complex-plans-unfold-two-more-tracts-for.html

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Never mind.. Randy's tract is plot D, and it is a bit bigger than SkyHouses plot, so this will have a little room to sprawl

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Never mind.. Randy's tract is plot D, and it is a bit bigger than SkyHouses plot, so this will have a little room to sprawl

 

au contraire:

 

http://www.bizjournals.com/houston/news/2014/09/29/exclusive-new-luxury-condominium-high-rise-planned.html

 

Davis is building his high-rise on a little less than half of the 1.8-acre parcel he purchased. He plans to sell off the remaining 45,000 square feet to other developers.
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Maybe I'm the only one but I think three Randall Davis buildings in such close proximity are two too many.

I was sad to hear this and had hoped he was selling this tract to someone who might do something stunning.

I don't like his style and think they have a real cheap poorly designed look. I don't like his choice of

materials, details or the colors of his exteriors. I don't think they will age very gracefully.

I know its all about infill and high rises for the most part, but there has to be a point

where we begin to think about aesthetics.

I don't think Randall has any.

Thats just my opinion and I'm sticking with it.

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Maybe I'm the only one but I think three Randall Davis buildings in such close proximity are two too many.

I was sad to hear this and had hoped he was selling this tract to someone who might do something stunning.

I don't like his style and think they have a real cheap poorly designed look. I don't like his choice of

materials, details or the colors of his exteriors. I don't think they will age very gracefully.

I know its all about infill and high rises for the most part, but there has to be a point

where we begin to think about aesthetics.

I don't think Randall has any.

Thats just my opinion and I'm sticking with it.

You don't like the Astoria, or the old Titan proposal? Randy was responsible for renovating the Rice Hotel into residential..

At least he does something different and it doesn't look like every other high rise. I think an RD design is better than another similar ZC residential design.

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85-100 units on such a small parcel should make for a fairly high tower. The Astoria has 75 units and measures in at 28 stories. I think we'd see something at least 30 stories high.

 

I recall the two-story McDonald's on Post Oak had to be demolished and the new McDonald's built at its current site to accommodate the Astoria. It was not that big a plate. Does anyone know if 1.8 acres is larger or smaller than the parcel accommodating the Astoria? If smaller, we might see something 35 stories+

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Maybe I'm the only one but I think three Randall Davis buildings in such close proximity are two too many.

I was sad to hear this and had hoped he was selling this tract to someone who might do something stunning.

I don't like his style and think they have a real cheap poorly designed look. I don't like his choice of

materials, details or the colors of his exteriors. I don't think they will age very gracefully.

I know its all about infill and high rises for the most part, but there has to be a point

where we begin to think about aesthetics.

I don't think Randall has any.

Thats just my opinion and I'm sticking with it.

I completely agree. Of course the renderings of his buildings look nice but the end product not so much. I mean look at how the Cosmopolitan turned out. Looked good on paper not so much in real life. Titan looked great but it was never built. The jury is still out on Astoria the renderings are amazing but will the tower turn out the same ? Just have to wait and see. But I think it will end up being a disappointment.

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Maybe I'm the only one but I think three Randall Davis buildings in such close proximity are two too many.

I was sad to hear this and had hoped he was selling this tract to someone who might do something stunning.

I don't like his style and think they have a real cheap poorly designed look. I don't like his choice of

materials, details or the colors of his exteriors. I don't think they will age very gracefully.

I know its all about infill and high rises for the most part, but there has to be a point

where we begin to think about aesthetics.

I don't think Randall has any.

Thats just my opinion and I'm sticking with it.

I agree with most of this, except I would say that three Randall Davis buildings in such close proximity are three too many.

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I agree with most of this, except I would say that three Randall Davis buildings in such close proximity are three too many.

I concur. Let's bet on how ugly and cheap looking it could be? He absolutely is the lowest common denominator on looks, materials and design. What he does get, unfortunately, is location location location. As we say "dammit it all".

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I see nothing wrong with the Cosmo besides the bland beige garage.

The top ends abrubtly, in my opinion. If it had a spire or something it would have been a big improvement. That being said, there is a clear market for his stuff - not much I can add to that.

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I see nothing wrong with the Cosmo besides the bland beige garage.

 

Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how did you enjoy the play?

 

That garage is massive. It simply cannot be discounted. I might dislike the Cosmo less if it were in a different setting but I hate how it destroys how well Four Oaks and Four Leafs (Twin Penii) worked together.

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It looks like there is a net gain in residential units (when you consider the new Davis Proj. + SkyHouse River Oaks) when compared to the old apartments on that same land. This is a net improvement for the area. Westcreek Ln is really a residential street, it has been for over 35 years now. 

 

River Oaks District was a net reduction in residential units. It looks like these other developments should make up for that loss, with a fair margin. Hopefully, maybe, one of the TBA projects will consider some upper-middle income units instead of going all out total luxury.  So many middle of the road units are going/will be going away without replacement - eventually, the market will bear the consequences.

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It looks like there is a net gain in residential units (when you consider the new Davis Proj. + SkyHouse River Oaks) when compared to the old apartments on that same land. This is a net improvement for the area. Westcreek Ln is really a residential street, it has been for over 35 years now.

River Oaks District was a net reduction in residential units. It looks like these other developments should make up for that loss, with a fair margin. Hopefully, maybe, one of the TBA projects will consider some upper-middle income units instead of going all out total luxury. So many middle of the road units are going/will be going away without replacement - eventually, the market will bear the consequences.

I noticed that as well that there's a net gain housing units with all these projects vs the old apartments.

But it had me thinking about the household size in the old apartments vs these new residentials being built. I would imagine that the household size would be >2 (mirroring areas of DT) vs the old apartments where people probably had kids.

Any ideas?

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does Randy have his own architect or does he outsource architects? personally im excited to see what he comes up with and wish he would build a condo tower in downtown. i guess its just a select few of us on here that like his work.

Look - Randall has good ideas, and a dream. Just not great execution. He has added a lot of residential buildings. My issue is not one of his buildings (Not even ONE) has been well thought out in how it relates to the buildings around it. Many times he forgets that they are tall, and can be seen on four sides. Just spend a bit more and make it right. In the scope of his projects a 2-3% added cost for architecual details (real ones) would make a big difference. He would be great in Vegas or maybe even Beaumont. We deserve better.

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Something tells me the Cosmopolitan downtown won't resemble the corpus design. Corpus is a beach town. Maybe if they were building it in Galveston, but downtown? But I like your enthusiasm for some RD downtown. Downtown could use a few more permanent residences..

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To me, it does seem that RD has done some kitchy stuff, but nevertheless I have enjoyed (and continue to enjoy) some of it.  

 

I have never followed the topic of which architects he uses, but that would be interesting to know.  That said, I do know of one firm that was involved with him, once.  I think it was a painful experience for both parties.

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Whenever I see a Randall Davis project: I'm reminded of that "famous" quote from The Dark Knight about the "hero Gotham deserves...but not the one we need right now"

 

I don't know why, but I just feel like it is appropriate for him?  Except he's sort of the inverse.  If that makes sense?

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