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Eastern Glades was open to the public today.  It was kind of empty of people because it was raining, but I would imagine this will attract quite a crowd when the weather starts getting cooler.   Very

Memorial Park expansion by Marc longoria, on Flickr   Memorial Park expansion by Marc longoria, on Flickr   Memorial Park expansion by Marc longoria, on Flickr  

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What a wonderful park. Can’t wait to see all the phases come together.

 

reminds me of Stanley park in Vancouver.

 

will there be a high end restaurant in the park?

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1 hour ago, Avossos said:

What a wonderful park. Can’t wait to see all the phases come together.

 

reminds me of Stanley park in Vancouver.

 

will there be a high end restaurant in the park?

 

Arby's FTW

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@Avossos Funny you should mention that. I was thinking of Stanley Park while I was there, and that great restaurant. Memorial Park would benefit from such a place.  Good thought. 
 

@cloud713 those stubs are just a creative change in direction of the walk and provide a resting space that’s out of the traffic path, so to speak.  It’s a cool effect. 

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9 hours ago, cloud713 said:

Thanks for all the pictures! I wonder if they plan on lengthening the boardwalk or if those stubs at the X are just design?

Based on what I can tell, they are more there for style rather than some future expansion.

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27 minutes ago, Triton said:

Based on what I can tell, they are more there for style rather than some future expansion.

 

Yeah, finally went last night myself and walked in this area. The boardwalk in the wooded area is rather narrow, so I think these little stubs allow people to either take a break or step out of the main path so traffic can flow through.

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It was a great experience visiting the park, I am excited for the Land Bridge and further improvements. Somewhat off topic but I only wish that Uptown had a smaller city park within as well as bordering Memorial Park. Great addition to Memorial Park though, I feel that this is now the heart of the park so to speak. 

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16 hours ago, Skyboxdweller said:

Uptown has three parks:  the Water Wall, Grady Park and the small pocket park on San Felipe.  

Something more in the 4-6 acre range along post oak 👀

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@Triton darn you and your awesomeness and your awesome photos! you captured exactly what my experience was that i spoke of in my earlier post...love this park as the sunsets and the park's lighting...

amazing job :) 

 

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16 minutes ago, nate4l1f3 said:

So does anyone know exactly what stretch of Memorial this will be and how far down it goes?

 

If you are asking literally how far down it goes, the answer is not at all.  Memorial Drive will not be lowered.

 

https://www.memorialparkconservancy.org/discover/master-plan/land-bridge-prairie-restoration-project/

 

https://www.memorialparkconservancy.org/discover/master-plan/ten-year-plan/?location=Land+Bridge+and+Prairie

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On 8/9/2020 at 4:28 PM, CaptainJilliams said:

 

 

From a few days ago, it looks like they will be breaking ground soon on the land bridge! New render I also have not seen yet.

 

Kind of wish it didn't look like drain culverts coming out but I guess the engineering required it.

 

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@H-Town Man everytime i see that photo i don't think of drains as much as i think about how if they ever need to block it temporarily they can have giant balls that they just roll up to the entrance or enormous corks haha! 

edit to say: 

ps..sorry for saying giant balls on a family forum...

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15 hours ago, H-Town Man said:

 

Kind of wish it didn't look like drain culverts coming out but I guess the engineering required it.

 

The simplistic aesthetic design is likely the result of the limited budget rather than any engineering constraints.  Civil engineers and architects can do almost anything given enough money. 

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1 hour ago, EaDo Lou said:

The simplistic aesthetic design is likely the result of the limited budget rather than any engineering constraints.  Civil engineers and architects can do almost anything given enough money. 

 

I was listening to the memorial park people talk on some interview and it seems like the design is more worried about sustaining the weight of the land mass since they are using soil from the park and growing trees on top of it. A comment on the post said something like "this isn't just a rooftop garden" lol. So it seems like they need incredible support, aka all that concrete looking like drain culverts, to ensure the soil stays in place and the trees can grow. The new expansion is more than I could have imagined, the land bridge is some visionary type stuff that as a person born and raise in houston I could only dream of. 

 

Looking at those photos, it looks like the Arboretum in some places. So do you just park on the south side of the park and walk over there? 

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48 minutes ago, gene said:

that second photo reminds me of a cult...i hope this isn't part of the new master plan 💀

Haha what you’re looking at according to the website is 

Memorial Groves

A living memorial to the WWI soldiers who trained at Camp Logan, trees aligned in regiments will shelter gathering spaces for reflection and education among the 100-year-old remnants of the camp.
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Just now, por favor gracias said:

Love the tree rows in that 2nd picture.

 

okay you made me just look at that picture one more time to get past my prior Cult comment earlier...that's when i noticed that the sidewalk makes an upside down cross!!! what in tarnation!!!????!!! 👹🤮🙏😲

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Just now, gene said:

 

okay you made me just look at that picture one more time to get past my prior Cult comment earlier...that's when i noticed that the sidewalk makes an upside down cross!!! what in tarnation!!!????!!! 👹🤮🙏😲

 

Hopefully that's just LSD they're drinking.

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I love the linear "halls" of trees, that is going to look so cool from the ground.

 

Has there been any status of the proposed replacement of the tennis courts and swimming pool that's there currently? I know they proposed a natatorium at one time. That is the only pool south of the heights in the west loop area at the moment.

 

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I can also confirm what @Triton has seen. They've also placed a fence around the perimeter that has renderings of the land bridges all over it.

 

24 minutes ago, Triton said:

UPDATE ON PARK: They have cleared most of the trees south of Memorial where the land bridge will be.

 

Can anyone find the original master plan PDF that had a lot more detail? I clicked on the link here in this thread but it's apparently dead now. I'm trying to figure out if they are going to be moving Memorial further south for the tunnel.

 

 

 

I don't have a PDF, but I found this link to the Memorial Park Conservancy that has some FAQs and a detailed description of the plan: https://www.memorialparkconservancy.org/discover/master-plan/land-bridge-prairie-restoration-project/

 

Not sure if this helps!

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The surprising thing to me is they don't even have a good map of the Eastern Glades as it was built yet.  The master plan has a design for it but what got built ended up being fairly different, with a much bigger lake.  So I wouldn't be surprised if they don't have a map of the upcoming land bridge in detail when they don't even have a map of the already-built Eastern Glades.

 

That said, I believe there was more detail in the original PDF but for some reason they seem to have decided to scrub that from the Internet.  Probably incompetence rather than malice though.

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well dangity dang, rode my bike there of course this weekend and yep it is craziness to see all the trees gone and the volleyball courts gone and a giant fence around that entire land mass just north of the baseball fields and west of the picnic loop! i mean i understand why and all what is happening etc but just still...crazy to see it all gone! exciting stuff to have this major and cool project underway! 

ps...is there anywhere else in Memorial to play volleyball? i cannot remember seeing courts elsewhere in Memorial specifically?

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I'm glad they're working on this area. That part of the park may have been the hardest hit from the drought back in 2011, and quite frankly, it's depressing for me when I pass by knowing what was there before. I never saw the Transco Tower from that part of Memorial before they cut all those dead pines down, and now you can see a lot of Uptown from there.

 

I remember we were rationing water at the time, but to this day, I can't fathom letting so many trees in our prize park die like that. I always thought a city like New York would never let something like that happen to Central Park if a similar situation presented itself there. I don't know that, but that's just my feeling. I wish they'd put an irrigation system in place (assuming they don't have one already) in at least the most mature areas to prevent something like that from happening again.

 

That said, I am very impressed with what they've done so far on the other (north) side of Memorial and look forward to the finished product on the south side.

 

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15 minutes ago, por favor gracias said:

I'm glad they're working on this area. That part of the park may have been the hardest hit from the drought back in 2011, and quite frankly, it's depressing for me when I pass by knowing what was there before. I never saw the Transco Tower from that part of Memorial before they cut all those dead pines down, and now you can see a lot of Uptown from there.

 

I remember we were rationing water at the time, but to this day, I can't fathom letting so many trees in our prize park die like that. I always thought a city like New York would never let something like that happen to Central Park if a similar situation presented itself there. I don't know that, but that's just my feeling. I wish they'd put an irrigation system in place (assuming they don't have one already) in at least the most mature areas to prevent something like that from happening again.

 

That said, I am very impressed with what they've done so far on the other (north) side of Memorial and look forward to the finished product on the south side.

 

Are there any pics of before 2011 from that area?

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continuing to see this park be updated and then there not being a good connection between Buffalo Bayou Park and Memorial Park for pedestrians and cyclists, it's a real let down.

 

I suppose in time this will be a thing.

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Yeah the ride between the end of buffalo bayou park and memorial park is not great.  4' sidewalks, uneven pavement.  I wonder if a bike path down memorial (or elsewhere) would make sense, or extend how far the buffalo bayou park stretches to meet up with memorial park

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Yeah that is what i call the "danger zone"! from starbucks on Memorial to the shepherd bridge/or path heading down under the bridge...it is near impossible to maneuver that sidewalk on a bike with other bikes or people in your path...

yikes! 

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Yep...everyone now has a bike or just wants to get outdoors since there wasn't (or isn't) much else to do! i think that is awesome...but not on that stretch of sidewalk haha!!! 

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17 minutes ago, cspwal said:

I don't know traffic volumes on memorial - would a protected bike line be feasible, or is there way too much traffic to cut out a lane each way?

It can get pretty backed up during afternoon eastbound rush hour (pre-COVID) between the 2 parks, particularly with Westcott dumping traffic coming from i10 right into this stretch of road. From my experience though, any other time it's not bad. I'm guessing they won't be giving up a lane to bikes any time soon since they just finished a repaving project a couple of weeks ago... cutting out sections of the road and replacing with proper concrete from Westcott all the way to Sabine.

 

Is there enough space to widen the sidewalk into a proper hike/bike path?

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Between Shepherd and Detering, there looks like there might be enough room, but after that not really, if you want to have any sort of buffer. 

It looks like right now on that section, it's 3 11 ft lanes each side; if you made it 3 10 foot lanes, it would keep the traffic volume, and get 3 feet for a bike lane.  That's pretty small for a bike lane - it wouldn't be protected, just painted lanes

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