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maybe people expect bigger and better things from wal-mart...who knows...

when i worked at the bookstore, they paid for all healthcare premiums, so free insurance was the key (of course the pay sucked). my current employer subsidizes a good amount of our premiums, so it isn't too bad...

but then again, i don't work for wal-mart either...

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"The memo acknowledged that Wal-Mart, the world's largest retailer, had to walk a fine line in restraining benefit costs because critics had attacked it for being stingy on wages and health coverage. Ms. Chambers, Wal-Mart's executive vice president for benefits, acknowledged that 46 percent of the children of Wal-Mart's 1.33 million United States employees were uninsured or on Medicaid.

Under fire because less than 45 percent of its workers receive company health insurance, Wal-Mart announced a new plan on Monday that seeks to increase participation by allowing some employees to pay just $11 a month in premiums. Some health experts praised the plan for making coverage more affordable, but others criticized it, noting that full-time Wal-Mart employees, who earn on average around $17,500 a year, could face out-of-pocket expenses of $2,500 a year or more.

The theme throughout the memo was how to slow the increase in benefit costs without giving more ammunition to critics who contend that Wal-Mart's wages and benefits are dragging down those of other American workers."

A couple of questions:

How does the fact that 46% of the children of Wal-Mart's 1.33 million U.S. employees are uninsured or on Medicaid stack up against other large retail corporations?

Why is allowing employees to pay just $11.00/month a sensible way to handle skyrocketing health costs? This doesn't seem realistic to me, and the figure of $2500.00/year for out-of-pocket does not seem unrealistic either. How does this compare to other corporations?

It will be interesting to follow this story, because as Wal-Mart leads, others will follow, good or bad.

Open question: Have any of you ever met and talked with any Wal-Mart employee who is happy with their job, their pay, their benefit package, their company? I haven't yet, still searching...

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From the article:

"The memo acknowledged that Wal-Mart, the world's largest retailer, had to walk a fine line in restraining benefit costs because critics had attacked it for being stingy on wages and health coverage. Ms. Chambers, Wal-Mart's executive vice president for benefits, acknowledged that 46 percent of the children of Wal-Mart's 1.33 million United States employees were uninsured or on Medicaid.

Under fire because less than 45 percent of its workers receive company health insurance, Wal-Mart announced a new plan on Monday that seeks to increase participation by allowing some employees to pay just $11 a month in premiums. Some health experts praised the plan for making coverage more affordable, but others criticized it, noting that full-time Wal-Mart employees, who earn on average around $17,500 a year, could face out-of-pocket expenses of $2,500 a year or more.

The theme throughout the memo was how to slow the increase in benefit costs without giving more ammunition to critics who contend that Wal-Mart's wages and benefits are dragging down those of other American workers."

A couple of questions:

How does the fact that 46% of the children of Wal-Mart's 1.33 million U.S. employees are uninsured or on Medicaid stack up against other large retail corporations?

Why is allowing employees to pay just $11.00/month a sensible way to handle skyrocketing health costs? This doesn't seem realistic to me, and the figure of $2500.00/year for out-of-pocket does not seem unrealistic either. How does this compare to other corporations?

It will be interesting to follow this story, because as Wal-Mart leads, others will follow, good or bad.

Open question: Have any of you ever met and talked with any Wal-Mart employee who is happy with their job, their pay, their benefit package, their company? I haven't yet, still searching...

My personal belief is that Wal-Mart will run out H.E.B. Pantry, Randall's, Fiesta, Kroger and all of the other stores in due time. Even pharmacies like Walgreen's, C.V.S., etc.

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Well, that's certainly their goal, but, as critical as I am of Wal-Mart, I don't see that happening anytime soon. Certainly, Wal-Mart exerts a huge influence on other big retailers: they have to adapt in order to compete. HEB and Kroger are experimenting in some markets with larger-format stores: they're not quite as massive as Wal-Mart Supercenters, but they do offer a wider selection of general merchandise than traditional supermarkets. Kroger has also responded to pressure from Wal-Mart by lowering their prices.

At the same time, supermarket chains are concentrating more on niche marketing. HEB Central Market, Kroger Signature, Randall's Flagship (Safeway "Lifestyle")--these generally target more "upscale" shoppers and carry a selection of merchandise not found at Wal-Mart.

Obviously, smaller markets cannot sustain higher-end grocery stores, and that's why I think your observation is more true for smaller towns and cities than it is for major metropolitan areas. In these places, Wal-Mart will be (or already is) the only retailer of any consequence.

I know less about pharmacies than I do about grocery stores, but Walgreen's and CVS seem to be pretty healthy. These days, one can't swing one's proverbial dead cat without hitting a drug store.

I did say "in due time". I know that it won't happen overnight. I predict that in about five years, you'll see a lot of vacant boarded up buildings of what used to be Kroger, Randall's, Walgreen's, etc.

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I did say "in due time". I know that it won't happen overnight. I predict that in about five years, you'll see a lot of vacant boarded up buildings of what used to be Kroger, Randall's, Walgreen's, etc.

Don't be so pessimistic. Just how many inner loopers like going to Wal-Mart?

After all, compare the Wal-Mart Meyer Park store to the Meyerland Target.

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You can have the one they are throwing on top of us here in League City. They came into city government with grants and bought their way in... against popular opinion.

Now we will have one every 5 miles away in a 360* circle.

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Maybe I am posting this in the wrong section, but I live in Meyerland and I have often wondered why we do not have a Super Walmart in the SW Houston/Meyerland area. We have a normal Walmart off of South Post Oak and 610 (which is always REALLY crowded), but not a Super WM. Anyone else think there needs to be one?
Wait for astroworld to be cleared out...

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Updated 6:38 AM on Wednesday, April 5, 2006

Wal-Mart announces urban stores plan

Wire Report

WASHINGTON - Wal-Mart Stores Inc. plans to build more than 50 stores in urban areas over the next two years and, sounding more governmental than corporate, said it would also create programs to support small businesses - including its competitors - in the process.

The plan, announced Tuesday by chief executive H. Lee Scott, would be a major shift in strategy for the company, which became the nation's largest retailer by opening rural and suburban stores.

http://www.theeagle.com/stories/040506/bus...20060405042.php

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The Wallyworld in Meyerland at S Post Oak des suck, always filthy crowded, and disorganized. So we usually now go to the new Targets (still crowded, but much friendlier and cleaner).

If we MUST go to a Wmart (ad, sale, etc), we usually drive down Airport to 59 (live near Hillcroft & Bellfort).

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You can have the one they are throwing on top of us here in League City. They came into city government with grants and bought their way in... against popular opinion.

Now we will have one every 5 miles away in a 360* circle.

Heah TexasHome.....don't forget that League City allowed that Victory Lakes subdivision to go in on top of the existing Pecan Orchard subdivision.

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hate to say it....but have you also noticed Wal-Mart doesn't really care to expand into minority areas....the Meyer Park store has no business not being a Supercenter since it's the only Wal-Mart close for people living along 610 from Meyer Park to Gulfgate and 3rd Ward, etc. Hence the large amount of crowds...

They opened one up in my old area off of 2234 and Independence in the 80s and did decent business but a few shoplifting incidents caused them to move to 59 South and West Airport in the 90s which eventually created the freestanding Wal-Mart building boom of the 90s.

Despite my old area never losing many residents, Wal-Mart has stayed only on Highway 6 and has yet to come back and will probably never....Home Depot has taken risks and came back but Wal-Mart won't

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my dad said that the mgr of the almeda store told him that that store is considered a minority store because different merchandise is carried there than at the nearest store. so i guess they do go into areas they consider minorities.

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I didn't even know they were closing.

Me neither - until I drove by today and saw the "AMC" sign taken down and the words "theater closed" on the sign.

I can't say I am surprised that the AMC closed. The theater started losing patrons when Edwards opened. I remember when the screen had no picture and a technician had to fix it.

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The AMC Meyer Park has CLOSED! It's toast, folks!

Wow, I hadn't heard they were closing either. I remember when that place first opened, it was a big deal because it was the only megaplex in the area. Eventually it started declining and wasn't maintained very well. I think the last time I was ever there was when they were screening a rerelease of THE WILD BUNCH about five years ago - for some reason, it was an exclusive engagement that no other theater in town had, and I wound up catching it twice during the week or so that it was there.

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Me neither - until I drove by today and saw the "AMC" sign taken down and the words "theater closed" on the sign.

I can't say I am surprised that the AMC closed. The theater started losing patrons when Edwards opened. I remember when the screen had no picture and a technician had to fix it.

I am new to the area, where do residents of Westbury and Meyerland go to see movies now that the AMC is closed?

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I am new to the area, where do residents of Westbury and Meyerland go to see movies now that the AMC is closed?

I would assume that they, especially the wealthier residents, to go to the Edwards Grand Palace in the area near Upper Kirby.

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I am new to the area, where do residents of Westbury and Meyerland go to see movies now that the AMC is closed?

Edwards or the Greenway, both in Greenway Plaza.

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Edwards or the Greenway, both in Greenway Plaza.

By the way, remember that the Edwards is the area large, traditional first showing theater, while Landmark Greenway is a small, art house theater.

EDIT for 2008: Greenway has closed!

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The AMC Meyer Park has CLOSED! It's toast, folks!

That's sad...lots of memories associated with that place. I remember going there when it first opened, and it was definitely the nicest theater around. Prior to its opening, we used to go to the theater at Meyerland Plaza or the Bellaire theater (both of which are also history). I can't remember the last time I visited AMC Meyer Park, but it must have been at least 10 years ago...

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That's sad...lots of memories associated with that place. I remember going there when it first opened, and it was definitely the nicest theater around. Prior to its opening, we used to go to the theater at Meyerland Plaza or the Bellaire theater (both of which are also history). I can't remember the last time I visited AMC Meyer Park, but it must have been at least 10 years ago...

I went to Meyer Park several times during its final days.

* There was a time when the sound didn't work, and I had to flag a technician in order to get the sound working.

* There were few patrons, and the patrons seemed like they mainly came from apartments.

* Employees told me that the theater had the possibility of being closed.

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My wife was a steady customer of the Edwards Grand Palace, but gave up on them because of their steadily increasing parking price. Last time she went it was $3.00 just to park...plus $7.00 or $8.00 for the movie...plus $10.00 for a coke and a box of candy. It cost her $20.00 for an afternoon at the movies...$35.00 when I go! We can get a nice meal for $35.00, and it's a lot more entertaining than anything in the theater...

I can understand why people don't go to the movies as much as they used to.

* There were few patrons, and the patrons seemed like they mainly came from apartments.

You'll have to explain that one...how do you tell who comes from apartments and who comes from detached single-family homes? :blink:

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I can understand why people don't go to the movies as much as they used to.

You'll have to explain that one...how do you tell who comes from apartments and who comes from detached single-family homes? :blink:

In southwest Houston outside of 610, most of the low income residents live in apartments. AMC Meyer Park, towards the end, seemed to take mainly lower income families. Movie theaters make most of their money from concession stands. I doubt that the lower socioeconomic end has money to buy a lot of popcorn and nachos.

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Meyer Park was the father of the "moden megaplex theatre"...everyone from 610 North, West, South, Mo. City, etc. hung out there as it was the place to be before the theatre building boom of the 90s and early 2000s. They were the "kings" of sold out premiers and you had to buy a ticket 4 hours in advance to see a showing....how many times did I miss the initial showing of "Ninja Turtles"....lol

What killed Meyer park was stadium seating and the strip center was caught in between demographic changes as it never seemed to replace the stores it lost...Media PLay, Blockbuster Music, etc.

How can you tell an apartment dweller over there Vic? The apartments on south post oak are heavily hispanic and the mass row of apartments on West Bellfort is several miles away and everything is in there....

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My wife was a steady customer of the Edwards Grand Palace, but gave up on them because of their steadily increasing parking price.

We used to live very close by to the Edwards Grand Palace, but I never went there more than a handful of times. I refuse to pay for parking at a movie theater, plus the last time I was there I nearly got run over by some idiot in a big hurry in the parking garage. At least when you go to the Angelika downtown and park in the theater district garage, they'll validate your parking at the box office.

The best theaters in town as far as presentation standards (projection equipment properly maintained, picture always in focus and framed correctly, no blown speakers, etc.) used to be the Meyerland General Cinema, the Loews Fountains, and the Museum of Fine Arts' Brown Auditorium. The Meyerland GC's gone, and I haven't been to the Fountains in several years as it was much farther away once we bought our house, but the MFAH is still without peer; of course, they don't screen first-run movies.

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We used to live very close by to the Edwards Grand Palace, but I never went there more than a handful of times. I refuse to pay for parking at a movie theater, plus the last time I was there I nearly got run over by some idiot in a big hurry in the parking garage. At least when you go to the Angelika downtown and park in the theater district garage, they'll validate your parking at the box office.

MKUltra, some people have a neat trick where they will park in the neighborhood west of the theater and then cross the street.

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Who cares about 2 lousy bucks for parking when a ticket is $10? I go to Grand Palace for all the block busters in the first or second weekend, before they are relegated to the smaller screens, as their big screens are nice with great sound systems. I went to AMC First Colony to watch Spiderman 3 and the sound was awful and the projector was blurry.

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MKUltra, some people have a neat trick where they will park in the neighborhood west of the theater and then cross the street.

parking across richmond is pretty easy, too - usually

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Meyer Park was the father of the "moden megaplex theatre"...everyone from 610 North, West, South, Mo. City, etc. hung out there as it was the place to be before the theatre building boom of the 90s and early 2000s. They were the "kings" of sold out premiers and you had to buy a ticket 4 hours in advance to see a showing....how many times did I miss the initial showing of "Ninja Turtles"....lol

What killed Meyer park was stadium seating and the strip center was caught in between demographic changes as it never seemed to replace the stores it lost...Media PLay, Blockbuster Music, etc.

How can you tell an apartment dweller over there Vic? The apartments on south post oak are heavily hispanic and the mass row of apartments on West Bellfort is several miles away and everything is in there....

well it's when the place was built, it rejuvenated the area somewhat enough to attract residents to the area that are more well off but couldn't quite eliminate the ghetto factor permanently. it is sad to see it go. s post oak hasn't recovered either.

parking across richmond is pretty easy, too - usually

i know someone that was towed over there. IMO, it just is too difficult to find consistent parking at edwards. not worth the effort.

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Also, do not park at the restaurant complex and then go to the theater after eating. Even during the night, when parking is not an issue, the center is tow-happy.

well it's when the place was built, it rejuvenated the area somewhat enough to attract residents to the area that are more well off but couldn't quite eliminate the ghetto factor permanently. it is sad to see it go. s post oak hasn't recovered either.

i know someone that was towed over there. IMO, it just is too difficult to find consistent parking at edwards. not worth the effort.

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Went to see a movie at Grand Palace and the parking is actually $3. My bad. Still, big freaking deal. As a small business owner, I empathize with jerks that try and park in the restaurant parking to see a movie. Umm, those are for restaurant customers. That's just in bad form to take up parking for 2 hours. It $3 dollars people. Anyway, with property values going up, its the only way to get a movie theater in that location.

I will say this, I also read that AMC Meyer Park is closing. I remember when it was new and there were huge crowds there. When I was dating my wife, we'd go see a ton of movies over there. Great memories. But its time has passed. Heck they already tore down the Cinaplex Odeon and it was newer than Meyer Park!

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I worked at that Wal-Mart, and it was the worst: rude customers (oh how many times did I get money thrown AT me), rude employees, dirty, disorganized, I could go on. On Fridays and Saturdays, the rugrats from the AMC would come in and steal and fight before their movies would start. It was terrible. And Wal-Mart does build in minority areas because they've built a new Super WalMart off of Beltway, within spitting distance of the notorious Spice Ln.

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Tell me more about this Spice Ln. I am native and nver heard of it.

Spice Lane is east of Wilcrest, west of Beltway 8, south of Beechnut, and north of Bissonnet. It is in the Houston city limits and in Alief ISD.

Apartments on Spice Lane:

* Claridge Apartments - 10027 Spice Lane

* Aspen Ridge - 10555 Spice Lane

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Speaking of Walmart, I went to the one on Beltway 8 just south of where the Auchan used to be located for the first (and last) time recently. OMG...what a disgusting store! There were people just hanging out in the front and the store just seems very disorderly. To their credit it is a full service super walmart and not a mini Walmart the Meyerland one.

If you want a half way good walmart to go to then the one on HWY 6 south of Dulles is the best one to go to. You can take HWY 90 and go in the back way using Murphy Rd. It is about a 15 minute drive compared to the 5 minute one it would take me to go to Meyerland but well worth it. Up Hwy 6 about 1 mile north on the left is a Sears hardware store. This has also become my replacement for Sears in Westwood.

It is just sad to see Westbury/Meyerland lose 2 theaters in under 4 years like this. I think the Meyerland Theater will be converted into a foreign language version sometime in the future like the theater on W. Belfort and Fondren (the Indian theater) or the a Spanish language one. Otherwise, the building will sit dormant forever. But if Randalls pulls the plug on their store I would love for that entire wing of the center to be demolished and a Sears built. CLOSE THE WESTWOOD STORE SEARS!!!!! They would have to rebuild from nothing but they would have enough room to put in the auto center as well. Napoli pizza made the smartest move going from that center into a small private building near Chimney Rock and Beechnut. Now that is an area you feel safe leaving you car unlocked in the parking lot if you so desire.

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I live in Westbury and spend quite a bit of money at the Wal-Mart Neighboorhood Market on Hillcroft near Braeswood. I also shop a built from the ground up version near my office off Gessner/Kempwood. The Hillcroft store should be a model for future stores as it has a somewhat upscale (as far as Wal-Mart goes) in interior color choices and softer complementary lighting. You have to actually walk into the Hillcroft store and then go visit another one to understand. If they can continue to attempt to keep the parking lot and store clean I will continue to go there. Customer service-wise ... it's Wal-Mart.

When I want to do a Super Wal-Mart I will make a Saturday trip down the Ft Bend Tollway from Westbury to the one in Missouri City (Hwy 6 / FM 1092) which so far seems really clean, staff friendly and I've never experienced it being a zoo. I typically get some lunch while out there in the area too since there is a lot of restaurants around there on the edge of First Colony.

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Tonight, I just got reminded why I usually take the trek to the Wal-Mart in Pearland when I need something from them. I went to Meyer Park tonight, and words cannot express my utter disbelief. I'd just left the Super Target on S.Main and wanted to check on something there. Target is just a whole different type of world compared to Wal-Mart, especially that one in particular. I grew up in the "hood", but that Meyer Park Wal-Mart is too "hood" for me.

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I grew up in the "hood", but that Meyer Park Wal-Mart is too "hood" for me.

guess you don't go to the pappadeaux down there either.

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Tonight, I just got reminded why I usually take the trek to the Wal-Mart in Pearland when I need something from them. I went to Meyer Park tonight, and words cannot express my utter disbelief. I'd just left the Super Target on S.Main and wanted to check on something there. Target is just a whole different type of world compared to Wal-Mart, especially that one in particular. I grew up in the "hood", but that Meyer Park Wal-Mart is too "hood" for me.

I live close to Meyer Park as well, and I have general rule, if I can get in and out of that Wal Mart by 10 AM it is cool, after that, drive to Pearland

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What pearland are you talking about? The one on main or the one on 288? The wal-mart is main is always pretty empty. I don't know how they can support a supercenter. The one in Pasadena are getting cheap and dimming/turning off the lighting. I don't like that. Just to save what 15 bucks an hour shutting of fluorescent lights.

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What pearland are you talking about? The one on main or the one on 288? The wal-mart is main is always pretty empty. I don't know how they can support a supercenter. The one in Pasadena are getting cheap and dimming/turning off the lighting. I don't like that. Just to save what 15 bucks an hour shutting of fluorescent lights.

No doubt he's referring to the one off of 288, since it is newer, larger, and closer.

I've had to make the same decision between Meyer Park and Pearland before. It basically depends on how time-sensitive the run is. If my car's battery died and won't take a jump, and I'm in a parking lot on S. Main at 10PM, and a friend has showed up to help me go get a new battery, then I go to Meyer Park. It is closer. If it's 10PM and I'm leisurely going to pick up some basic stuff, I go to Pearland.

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What pearland are you talking about? The one on main or the one on 288? The wal-mart is main is always pretty empty. I don't know how they can support a supercenter. The one in Pasadena are getting cheap and dimming/turning off the lighting. I don't like that. Just to save what 15 bucks an hour shutting of fluorescent lights.

Niche is right, I'm referring to the one on 288. It takes me about the same length of time to get to the 288 location or Meyer Park from Riverside depending on traffic.

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Does anyone have any official word on what is going on at Meyer Park shopping center. Luby's is building a new location as a pad site in front of their current location. The AMC theatre is now a pile of rubble except for the front wall. Employees at Randall's say they are going to be unemployed in 2011 because that store is closing.

I am hearing rumors from the Willow Meadows folks that Wally World is going to build a new Super Center there. Also from Westbury and Meyerland Civic Clubs there is a reponse "we've heard rumors" to the Super Center. I've asked several real estate folks and they are worried about the impact on property values if this rumor is true.

Can anyone find anything official as to what is going on there?

Thanks.

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The good news is those folks may still have a job. I heard from a reliable source that HEB was going to move in right away. I heard the same thing you did about Luby's, and Kohls is supposed to be opening there rather than Wally's. Let us pray!

Tim D.

Does anyone have any official word on what is going on at Meyer Park shopping center. Luby's is building a new location as a pad site in front of their current location. The AMC theatre is now a pile of rubble except for the front wall. Employees at Randall's say they are going to be unemployed in 2011 because that store is closing.

I am hearing rumors from the Willow Meadows folks that Wally World is going to build a new Super Center there. Also from Westbury and Meyerland Civic Clubs there is a reponse "we've heard rumors" to the Super Center. I've asked several real estate folks and they are worried about the impact on property values if this rumor is true.

Can anyone find anything official as to what is going on there?

Thanks.

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