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On 6/16/2018 at 1:01 PM, felt38 said:

I’m really missing that downtown destinations exit that I used everyday, now using   tellepsen and Polk to get where I need to go...ugh. Much longer.

 

i am not seeing construction of a new downtown destinations off ramp yet. Is this project behind schedule? Harvey probably contributed to that if so.

 

as someone who lives and commutes on the streets you are taking as alternatives, I am really missing your downtown destinations exit as well.

 

On 6/17/2018 at 0:04 AM, cspwal said:

 

The new downtown destinations exit will be off the main lanes - if you drive up pease street after exiting Scott, you can see the new ramp they are making.  It’s mostly done, but I believe they are waiting until the 59 ramps can be switched over before opening the new exits to downtown

 

I suspect they aren't going to wait that long. I imagine when they are done with the flyover sections that are directly overhead of the exit they will open the new downtown destination exit. 

 

It will almost certainly open before they shutdown the current SB exit for 59, and the traffic for SB 59 will be encouraged to take that exit to get to 59. I have no confirmation from anyone, that is just what would make the most sense. The worst is still ahead since most traffic that exits 45 is exiting for 59 SB, but they are seeming to set it up so it will be a fast process, ie they are building the new ramp as close to the existing ramp as they can before demolition.

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This makes a lot of sense.  Traffic is going to be pretty bad once they start that though.  Time to take surface streets again yay :/

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I see the off-ramps, but they seem to be headed toward 59 and not anything like what the old downtown destinations exit used to be.  Is it going to offload in a different location than at Pease and Dowling/Emancipation?  I might need to take a closer look and stop driving for once through Samagon's neighborhood to get home (Eado).

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The exit for Pease and St. Joesph is going to come off the mainlanes after the Scott St entrance.  The current downtown destinations ramp will turn into the Scott St exit and the exits for 59 NB and 59 SB

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OK, I finally see what you mean by "main lanes" - the exit won't be from the 59/69 off ramp but further north from the gulf freeway itself.  I am hoping the off-ramp to downtown will be two lanes like it once was.  I'll try to drive over in the vicinity this weekend to see if my commute future is doomed or not.

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I think you're right.....doomed.  I drove by and saw the exit and was underwhelmed. It appears to be a single lane exit to downtown, but hopefully I am mistaken.  If not. the future does not bode well for my commute.

 

Hope the people driving to 69/59 from the Gulf freeway will be happy with the end result.  I sure liked driving on those wide empty lanes with the great view of downtown approaching all those years.

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The bad news
The I-45 connector to I-69 southbound is slated for demolition and reconstruction. It is scheduled to close in October and re-open in March.

http://houston.culturemap.com/news/city-life/06-27-18-houston-prepare-for-major-construction-downtown-for-the-gulf-freeway/

 

Whaaaaaaaat...... for that long? I have a feeling this is going to be an even bigger mess than the northbound ramp being shut down. How are people expected to go south now during this phase?

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On 6/26/2018 at 0:17 PM, felt38 said:

I think you're right.....doomed.  I drove by and saw the exit and was underwhelmed. It appears to be a single lane exit to downtown, but hopefully I am mistaken.  If not. the future does not bode well for my commute.

 

Hope the people driving to 69/59 from the Gulf freeway will be happy with the end result.  I sure liked driving on those wide empty lanes with the great view of downtown approaching all those years.

 

For the amount of concrete, I think it's going to be 2 lanes that exit for downtown.

 

3 hours ago, Triton said:

http://houston.culturemap.com/news/city-life/06-27-18-houston-prepare-for-major-construction-downtown-for-the-gulf-freeway/

 

Whaaaaaaaat...... for that long? I have a feeling this is going to be an even bigger mess than the northbound ramp being shut down. How are people expected to go south now during this phase?

 

it's part of the good news:

The good news
The Gulf Freeway connector to I-69 northbound through downtown Houston is scheduled to open in August, along with the at-grade exit to St. Joseph Parkway and Pease Street.

 

ultimately, you get 3 options:

 

1. exit at the st.joseph/pease exit and enter 59 south at webster street.

 

2. stay on 45, exit for i-10 east, exit for 59 south.

 

3. exit 45 for 59 north, exit 59 for i10 west, exit i10 for 45 south, exit 45 for 59 south.

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4 hours ago, samagon said:

 

For the amount of concrete, I think it's going to be 2 lanes that exit for downtown.

 

 

it's part of the good news:

The good news
The Gulf Freeway connector to I-69 northbound through downtown Houston is scheduled to open in August, along with the at-grade exit to St. Joseph Parkway and Pease Street.

 

ultimately, you get 3 options:

 

1. exit at the st.joseph/pease exit and enter 59 south at webster street.

 

2. stay on 45, exit for i-10 east, exit for 59 south.

 

3. exit 45 for 59 north, exit 59 for i10 west, exit i10 for 45 south, exit 45 for 59 south.

 

Option 3 would be easier by exiting I-69/US 59 NB at Lyons and making a u-turn back onto I-69/US 59 SB, or exiting I-69/US 59 NB to I-10 WB, taking the San Jacinto/Main exit and making a u-turn back onto I-10 EB and onto I-69/US 59 SB.

 

The ramp closure is going to be a PIA for people heading to 288 SB from I-45 NB as well. Fortunately, if you're coming in from outside 610 or near 610, you can take 610 WB to 288.  

 

 

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On 6/27/2018 at 2:08 PM, samagon said:

 

For the amount of concrete, I think it's going to be 2 lanes that exit for downtown.

 

 

it's part of the good news:

The good news
The Gulf Freeway connector to I-69 northbound through downtown Houston is scheduled to open in August, along with the at-grade exit to St. Joseph Parkway and Pease Street.

 

ultimately, you get 3 options:

 

1. exit at the st.joseph/pease exit and enter 59 south at webster street.

 

2. stay on 45, exit for i-10 east, exit for 59 south.

 

3. exit 45 for 59 north, exit 59 for i10 west, exit i10 for 45 south, exit 45 for 59 south.

 

Option 4: Go the opposite direction on 45 to begin with and get on 610 and go to that interchange because I'm sure they wouldn't work on 2 interchanges at once that would hinder congestion relief

 

(really though half of 610's major interchanges are under construction at once)

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5 hours ago, urbanize713 said:

So did it open?

Yup, I've taken it twice already from UofH as of yesterday.

 

From my dashcam:

 

 

Ramp.PNG

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It's moving the decision point for 59 back by a few miles, separating the traffic with it's own lanes, and also getting rid of a left exit

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wow, that's accelerated from the timeline they provided. I wonder if the rest of it will be accelerated (59 sb closure, and downtown exit opening)?

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1 hour ago, samagon said:

wow, that's accelerated from the timeline they provided. I wonder if the rest of it will be accelerated (59 sb closure, and downtown exit opening)?

 

Is it that accelerated? I thought on-time opening was next month (August)? I could be wrong though.

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4 hours ago, wilcal said:

 

Is it that accelerated? I thought on-time opening was next month (August)? I could be wrong though.

 

2 days is accelerated :)

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The new ramp from 45 to downtown will be opening monday

https://www.houstonpublicmedia.org/articles/news/transportation/2018/08/02/298537/txdot-says-redesigned-exit-should-help-traffic-flow-at-a-freeway-hotspot/

 

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TxDOT’s Deidrea George said the revamped exit should be open by Monday morning’s commute.

“It will feed directly from 45 northbound,” explained George. “And there will also be two lanes versus the one-lane exit that was there.”

And George said having a ground-level exit will greatly help traffic flow.

“The addition of the extra lane will definitely help to take traffic off of the freeway and move them out onto the frontage road quicker, which will also free up some of the traffic holdup on 45 northbound,”

 

It looks like opening the Cullen ramp is next.  It's unclear when they are going to do 45 N -> 59 S

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3 hours ago, Triton said:

Dashcam video I took of the new ramp:

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mn-pQVG_FcY

Like. :)

 

I could watch the Houston skyline taken from a moving car all day. I wish there was a moving car webcam for people like me who don't live in Houston anymore so that we could watch the city grow in real time. I even wouldn't mind being in a 'virtual' Houston traffic jam as long as I can see the towers from all those angles at once.

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Thanks. Wish the video came out a little brighter but I suppose this one works.

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https://www.houstonpublicmedia.org/articles/news/transportation/2018/08/02/298537/txdot-says-redesigned-exit-should-help-traffic-flow-at-a-freeway-hotspot/

 

"After last week’s opening of the direct connector between I-45 northbound and U.S. 59/I-69 North, TxDOT will now open the new St. Joseph Parkway-Pease Street exit to help get traffic into downtown Houston.  TxDOT’s Deidrea George said the revamped exit should be open by Monday morning’s commute."

 

Finally! .... no more having to exit onto Scott Street to get home to EaDo. 

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My question is how bad will the congestion be on 45 to get to this new ramp

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On 8/4/2018 at 9:28 AM, cspwal said:

My question is how bad will the congestion be on 45 to get to this new ramp

it will be worse for getting downtown than it used to be.

 

but for the people going south and north on 59 it will be far better, and there seems to be many more gulf freeway to 59 drivers than gulf freeway to downtown drivers, or they wouldn't have made the switch.

 

it might be quicker to get downtown to exit scott and get on the feeder, rather than stay on 45 to the "downtown exit"

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5 minutes ago, samagon said:

it will be worse for getting downtown than it used to be.

 

but for the people going south and north on 59 it will be far better, and there seems to be many more gulf freeway to 59 drivers than gulf freeway to downtown drivers, or they wouldn't have made the switch.

 

it might be quicker to get downtown to exit scott and get on the feeder, rather than stay on 45 to the "downtown exit"

 

Some drivers might opt to use the HOT lane that feeds into St. Joseph Pkwy. to get downtown if congestion pricing is in effect.

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Took the new dwntn exit a couple weeks ago, and waited 15 minutes in traffic to get there. I am doubtful that opening of the southbound 59 exit is going to drastically improve the situation. I am worried at TXDoT just traded one problem for another.

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Fixed a spellchk typo

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The Cullen and Scott entrances don't improve the situation.  A decent amount of people are getting on from there who aren't exiting downtown

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does anyone know when work is going to get going again?

 

seems like they opened the 59 north ramp, the downtown exit, and work has been pretty still for at least, if not longer than a month now. 

 

the problem is, I popped my popcorn to eat while watching everyone going to 59 south scramble around while their exit is closed, and it's getting cold.

 

is there a logistical issue? lining up equipment to ensure the quickest possible time between closure?

 

I assume it's not the contractor declaring bankruptcy, while I know that happens on smaller projects, you'd think the state wouldn't hire someone that might do that for such a big project.

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another month of no progress.

 

anyone have any details?

 

The ramp was scheduled to close in October, we're servicing December now. 

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6 minutes ago, samagon said:

another month of no progress.

 

anyone have any details?

 

The ramp was scheduled to close in October, we're servicing December now. 

I am guessing they are waiting to finish the Cullen ramp first?

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7 minutes ago, Triton said:

I am guessing they are waiting to finish the Cullen ramp first?

 

they are just going so slow, especially compared to how fast everything seemed to be going at the beginning.

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19 hours ago, samagon said:

 

they are just going so slow, especially compared to how fast everything seemed to be going at the beginning.

I just can't imagine how much of a mess the 59 south closure is going to cause. It's a different level of traffic compared to the north. 

 

Does anyone know the detour? Go down St Joseph Parkway and then make a left at Hamilton?

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Or take 45 to 10 to 59 south - I believe that was the official detour to go north while that ramp was closed

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On 12/5/2018 at 11:51 AM, Triton said:

I just can't imagine how much of a mess the 59 south closure is going to cause. It's a different level of traffic compared to the north. 

 

Does anyone know the detour? Go down St Joseph Parkway and then make a left at Hamilton?

 

this is my concern.

 

I did notice that they removed the forms on what will be the new ramp columns. so progress, just slower than block 334 apartments.

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so January 25th, the sign says.


exit 46b closed. which is the 59/288 south exit from gulf freeway.

 

I think it said something like "until further notice"

 

enjoy navigating.

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HBJ this morning:  Current connector ramp (left-exiting) from I-45 northbound to I-69 southbound will close permanently Friday night at 9PM (January 25).  The new (right-exiting) ramp is expected to open June 28.  Until the new connector opens, motorists will continue northbound on I-45 to Interstate 10 East to go back to I-69 southbound.

 

https://www.bizjournals.com/houston/news/2019/01/23/txdot-to-close-downtown-houston-highway-connector.html

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1 hour ago, Houston19514 said:

Until the new connector opens, motorists will continue northbound on I-45 to Interstate 10 East to go back to I-69 southbound.

 

Only if they really, really want to stay on a freeway.  Even then, it's going to make getting onto 45 from Walker even more interesting than it already is. 🙈

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I guess the scott street exit is going to get a little busier

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6 hours ago, cspwal said:

I guess the scott street exit is going to get a little busier

 

the most direct way will be:

 

new exit for St. Joseph and Pease.

stay on St. Joseph.

left on Hamilton.

enter freeway.

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On 1/25/2019 at 4:09 PM, samagon said:

 

the most direct way will be:

 

new exit for St. Joseph and Pease.

stay on St. Joseph.

left on Hamilton.

enter freeway.

Yea that's probably the best way to go at this point. Going all the way around downtown and back down south would probably add an extra 15 mins to anybody's commute.

 

Also, what a nightmare this weekend. Never seen traffic that bad there before.

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On 1/28/2019 at 10:42 AM, Triton said:

Yea that's probably the best way to go at this point. Going all the way around downtown and back down south would probably add an extra 15 mins to anybody's commute.

 

Also, what a nightmare this weekend. Never seen traffic that bad there before.

 

I can't wait for the 5-10 year version of it when they rebuild 59 and i10 to accommodate the removal of the pierce elevated. It'll be fun.

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12 hours ago, Some one said:

I'm not gonna lie, I'm going to miss that ramp.

I have to admit, I took the exit one last time at about 8:15 the Friday night they closed it, even though I was headed to 610/290.

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