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The Bleu Ciel's rendering looks amazing. It will be a great addition to the area. I also like that residential building left of Frost Tower in the picture.

 

Yea I like that one too.I believe that's the Azure. The Bleu Ciel is supposed the have the same amount ot stories yes sit slightly taller than it. (??)

I heard the BC is on slightly more elevated ground.

 

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Trammell Crow bidg some nice towers next to Klyde Warren. They look nice. The previous renderings for them were really sexy but supposedly those designs would have caused more "towering infernos" like the Museum Tower. These designs looking good though. With the Azure, Blue Ciel and this TC residential tower all over 30 stories its good to see Uptown finally get some height!

Now if we could only get a 600footer in the middle of Uptown to top it off. :P

 

http://www.bizjournals.com/dallas/news/2015/01/07/trammell-crow-co-metlife-unveil-luxury-towers-next.html

 

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The 19-story Park District Tower will sit on Pearl Street with about 502,000 square feet of Class A office space and 9,000 square feet of retail at the base of the tower. The development group plans to build multiple outdoor terraces, a fitness facility, a full conference facility with meeting rooms and a grand lobby with hotel-like space for informal meetings.

Trammell Crow Co.'s residential subsidiary, High Street Residential, will develop the 32-story Residences at Park District, which will sit on Olive Street. The tower will total about 255 residential homes with 13,000 square feet of retail space fronting Klyde Warren Park.

The residents will have access to an amenity deck and pool overlooking Klyde Warren Park and the downtown skyline. The tower will also have a fitness center, valet and concierge services.
Construction is expected to start on the towers this year.

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Fountain Place is the most beautiful building in Dallas.  As far as GO COWGIRLS Detroit should have beat them.  Everybody in sports knows that the officials are paid off.  The greedy owner always has something up his sleeve.  No flag on that call and the media is still talking about it.   

 

Bad calls happen all the time in the NFL for numerous teams. One went for us against Detroit. One went against us in GB. Its just the way it is.

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It's easy to forget how massive Dallas is when you're not there.  I drove DTD on my way back to Houston last week, and was taken aback by all the construction in Victory/Uptown/Downtown/whatever it's called.  

 

Dallas has also been more aggressive about building residential towers than Downtown Houston... until recently.  Now we've got several going at once, which is a first for Houston.  

 

BTW JasonDTX thanks for snapping that EPIC pic!!!  

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It's easy to forget how massive Dallas is when you're not there.  I drove DTD on my way back to Houston last week, and was taken aback by all the construction in Victory/Uptown/Downtown/whatever it's called.  

 

Dallas has also been more aggressive about building residential towers than Downtown Houston... until recently.  Now we've got several going at once, which is a first for Houston.  

 

BTW JasonDTX thanks for snapping that EPIC pic!!!  

 

Thanks TTS but I cant take credit for that pic. I didnt take it. Lol. I just dig for good pics on the net and show them here. :P

 

I snagged that pic off of Skyscraper city. y'all need to check that place out. Great pics and updates. Thats where most of my content comes from. If I find more cool pics I'll show em. :D

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Via Naghi12 on SkyscraperCity:

 

Another building redeveloping. Broke ground on Tuesday 11:00 a.m.
http://www.dallasnews.com/business/commercial-real-estate/headlines/Basic20150113-downtown-dallas-one-main-place-tower-will-house-new-westin-hotel.ece

Dallas is getting a ton of new retail, residential, and hotel spaces within downtown. By 2016-2020, downtown will have tremendous value, more residents, a big boost of retail space, more restaurants, entertainment areas, museums, and have more observation areas for the public. Hopefully, we will get new light rail and streetcars around the downtown to accommodate the new HSR line, and also new parks to beautify the area. We will probably see our offices fill up as more companies will want to relocate to a vibrant downtown. I'm excited about the turnout of all this.

Recently Completed
  • Atmos Complex
  • Continental Building
Under Construction
  • 1401 Elm
  • Statler Hilton Complex
  • Butler Brothers
  • One Main Place
  • 211 N. Ervay
  • One Dallas Center
  • 1600 Pacific
  • 1512 through 1516 Elm
Starting Soon
  • Adolphus Tower
  • 411 N. Akard
  • Old Ramada Plaza Hotel
  • 1700 Commerce
Planning Stage
  • Old Dallas High School
  • Hartford Building
  • Knights of Pythias building
  • Tower Petroleum

and practically every major office building is getting a major renovations/upgrades. I may be missing some, but the point is the amount of capital investment going on in the downtown area is astounding.

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I'm curious if oil prices will affect the DFW market any?  Yes, you guys aren't nearly as reliant upon commodities for your economy - but part of one of the major shale plays is actually IN the DFW metroplex!

 

Youre pretty much right from what I've heard about that. Dallas is basically a glorified swap meet and started out as an Indian trading post. The only thing that's changed is the technology and how it gets here.

 

Yea the shale thing has made a huge impact and Dallas has always been a center in the oil industry though Im assuming not as big a player in it as Houston.

 

Houston should be okay. Energy isnt the only industry in that town. :D

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Youre pretty much right from what I've heard about that. Dallas is basically a glorified swap meet and started out as an Indian trading post. The only thing that's changed is the technology and how it gets here.

 

And Houston started out as a real estate promotion.  :mellow:

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This is definitely going to be an interesting addition. Im just not sure how much of an allure a holocaust center will be. It should do well and bring out many visitors from all over the country(world). Probably many from the Jewish communities.

 

I personally just wouldn't be compelled to visit. If Im out enjoying the day Id rather go to the Perot museum,Dallas world aquarium,Klyde Warren(was there yesterday)...etc.

 

No disrespect intended. Who knows maybe it would be interesting visit.

 

As far as the building. It looks great.

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Victory Park is on Fire!!!!


-A proposed 600 ft building is on the FAA's website


https://oeaaa.faa.gov/oeaaa/external...39855142&row=5

Height: 600ft
Name: Victory Tower
Location: Victory Park, Block R

-A proposed 310 ft building is on the FAA's website

https://oeaaa.faa.gov/oeaaa/external...8269415&row=46

Height: 310ft
Name: Katy Station
Location: Victory Park, Block H

-Block M will be Hines Victory Park Tower

Hines, Cousins team up on new Victory Park office tower | Dallas Morning News

-Skyhouse Victory Park #2

https://oeaaa.faa.gov/oeaaa/external...632162&row=408

Height: 248ft
Location: Victory Park, Block G

-Block D is planned to have have retail topped with 3 levels of office

-Block G is planned to have retail and a movie theater 

 

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Awesome :D

 

Here's what the Victory Tower might look like(?)

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Also according to Emporis(not that that's the most reliable source) The Lexi a 696ft tower, has not been cancelled and is still proposed. I'd love to see that one get off the ground to. :P

http://www.emporis.com/building/the-lexi-dallas-tx-usa

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I'll believe it when I see the cranes.  Emporis removed the two 70 floor proposed buildings.  What is going on up there?

 

Yes me too. I know what you mean but I dont think those 70-80 floor supertalls every got as far as applying for FAA approval so its fun to get excited about this new one. Is Emporis truly accurate? Because its still showing the 696ft Lexi as proposed.:/ :o

That would be crazy for us to have a 700foot in Uptown.

It would be our little "Williams Tower" LOL

 

I opened an account to get more details on developments but it wouldnt let me get more. I think it wanted me to buy some crap to get "researcher" info ^_^

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Dallas and Houston both... why are all of the new designs so boxy??  UGH someone needs to be more dramatic with our shapes!!  

 

I agree. Some I like though like the one Hines is bldg in Victory Park(Victory center) Its on this thread.

But yes I want bolder designs like they're doing all over the world. Like Moscow's new ones and many others in Europe and Asia.

 

Maybe we'll get some better ones in the future.

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I agree. Some I like though like the one Hines is bldg in Victory Park(Victory center) Its on this thread.

But yes I want bolder designs like they're doing all over the world. Like Moscow's new ones and many others in Europe and Asia.

 

Maybe we'll get some better ones in the future.

Look at who is driving those developments in Asia.  Here in the states we have to have cost conscious design.  Developers must of course be able to charge a reasonable fee to tennants.  The only time we'll see dazzling architecture is when its a corporate building for XYZ Corporation.  See Exxon's new campus in Spring Woods.... the "main" building is an architecturally interesting (and structurally VERY interesting) cantilivered design.  Exxon did that.  Hines or TrammelCrow wouldn't for speculative purposes.

 

609 and the new Dallas 20something building are about as much as we can expect.  

and then there is Amegy's "masterpiece" of architecture!

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So much truth in that post Arche.. Houston missed a big opportunity for an iconic tower when Exxon chose the burbs instead of a new downtown building. Spec buildings aren't about to invest heavily into glamorous designs to appeal to potential tenants. They are going to build a cost effective structure and pour the bulk of the money into adding the amenities that make a building class A. I was hoping Houston would pull a major foreign oil and gas company NA HQ during this boom that wanted to make a big statement/have their presence be known to the city but alas.. No major iconic structures from any corporations. We'll have to see what Zaha Hadid does with that one furniture companies Houston "mixed use HQ"

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So much truth in that post Arche.. Houston missed a big opportunity for an iconic tower when Exxon chose the burbs instead of a new downtown building. Spec buildings aren't about to invest heavily into glamorous designs to appeal to potential tenants. They are going to build a cost effective structure and pour the bulk of the money into adding the amenities that make a building class A. I was hoping Houston would pull a major foreign oil and gas company NA HQ during this boom that wanted to make a big statement/have their presence be known to the city but alas.. No major iconic structures from any corporations. We'll have to see what Zaha Hadid does with that one furniture companies Houston "mixed use HQ"

The what?!

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Read it again. Some guy named Vladimer is a furniture designer. She's been hired to design the HQ!

So that's another Pritzker Prize winner ...possibly? Though it could end up as nothing with the price of oil what it is?

Ok sweet. No idea where this Vladimir guy can't into play but yeah here's to hoping Richland moves forward with the project..

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This part intrigued me..

The legendary furniture designer not only tipped AN off about the commission, he was also responsible for introducing Ms. Hadid to Suzanne Klein and Edna Meyer-Nelson, the Richland execs who promptly hired the Pritzker Prize winner to plan their mixed-use HQ.

So AN just found out about this through the Vladimir guy..? Who is he and why would he just now be telling them about it if something hasn't been moving forward behind the scenes since last summer?

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Another pretty rendering of the Victory Park area (just imagine a few drunk ppl and it'll be realistic)

Not sure the details of development but I like the view of the Hines Victory Center in the background.

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New Victory Center website up to check out. Lots of stats,photos and flyover videos. Looks awesome!

http://victorycenterdallas.com/

I did notice a typo. On the stats page it says 22 stories. On the official floorplan page it says 23 stories. The building's highest point will be around 25.

 

If the Fountain Place tower ever had a baby this is what it'd look like. :P

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Huh? I don't see the fountain place resemblance at all..

 

Its not a striking resemblance but its the straight lines set at angles.\|\ Similar diamond cut theme.No curves. I dont know any other bldg that would look like its related to FP

Just a subjective observation. Different colored glass though.

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Four more towers for Victory Park

http://bizbeatblog.dallasnews.com/2015/02/four-more-towers-in-the-works-for-dallas-victory-park-project.html/

 

And it looks like Houston is leading the attack on Dallas! lol

 

 

The biggest of the new developments in the works at Victory Park is a 28-story apartment tower planned at the north end of the development at Hi Line Drive and Houston Street.Called Katy Station, the building is being designed by Houston-based architect EDI International, according to filings with the Federal Aviation Administration.

 

The apartment tower would be built a block north of where Houston-based Camden Property Trust is now building a 423-unit apartment community on the north side of the American Airlines Center arena.

 

Further south at Victory Avenue and Museum Way, Victory Park manager Estein & Associates and Florida-based Lennar Multifamily Communities are expected to announce plans soon for a building with a movie theater and retail on the lower levels and apartments above.

The project will be close to 20 stories and will occupy a block now used for parking.

 

The planned apartment tower will be right across the street from where Houston-based developer Hines and Cousins Properties are about to break ground on a 23-story office building called Victory Center. The 466,000-square-foot high-rise will take almost two years to build.

 

And Atlanta-based Novare Group – which just completed its 24-story, 336-unit SkyHouse Dallas apartments at at 2320 N. Houston St. – has filed plans with the city that show it wants to build a second, similar building at Victory Park. The next Novare building would be constructed next to the American Airlines Center parking garage at Houston and Payne streets.

Together all these new projects will be the largest addition to Victory Park since construction started on the 75-acre mixed-use development in 1999.

 

 

This all sounds great to me but Im still waiting to hear news about the 600ft Victory Tower. Here's hoping the market will be strong enough to get that sucker built. :D

 

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Saw this on SSC. People going crazy over there.

Its good to finally hear some info on this. You think this thing deserves its own thread as the wheels start turning? :D

 

“That site is totally tied to an anchor tenant"

 

Does this mean he already has a tenant?

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Four more towers for Victory Park

http://bizbeatblog.dallasnews.com/2015/02/four-more-towers-in-the-works-for-dallas-victory-park-project.html/

 

And it looks like Houston is leading the attack on Dallas! lol

 

 

Only one of the four firms designing work in Victory is from Houston, and it would be a coin toss if the EDI designed tower were to kick off first or the office tower.  Two of the current four projects are designed in Dallas, and the other is a firm out of Raleigh, NC. 

 

We don't see too many Houston named firms here in Dallas, but only a couple like Ziegler Cooper and Kirksey.  Any major firm has an office here and uses its Dallas people.  Likewise in Houston or any big city market..... 

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