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i was in downtown dallas just a few weeks ago and noticed lots of development - at the moment i'd say their momentum beats ours in terms of new project announcements (with good reason) but as far as "urban core" existing activity it definitely doesn't outpace houston. downtown houston alone probably has something like 20 major projects under construction - probably triple that when you expand the core to include the "golden triangle" area between CBD, the medical center and uptown/galleria.

 

both cities are making tremendous progress in revitalizing their cores but there's no denying that houston's CBD has and will continue to have a leg up for the reasons stated above. most of the development i noticed in dallas was in the uptown region.

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Please someone roll out the red carpet and give our kitty a tour of the developements. Enlighten him.

 

I would but Im too upset today.

 

David Bowie has died! :(

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Oh it's very noticeable whenever you drive through Woodall Rodgers or 35 right by downtown. I was just downtown last night and I counted at least 7 cranes all around each other in Victory Park and Uptown. It's not noticeable to people who don't want to notice it because they feel that their city is vastly superior. Downtown will soon see more cranes with Halls condo tower, The mixed use hotel and apartments in front of the Trammel Crow Center, and the south Asian museum.

Those mid rise corporate campuses doesn't mean nothing is happening in the core. If anything it helps the whole region since some corporate workers of Toyota have been looking into renting in uptown and I know of one who is buying a condo there. In my lake highlands neighborhood several Toyota employees have moved in. It's not like like they all like living in suburbs. Most that have families I assume will but there is many young people who won't.

But how many cranes were in downtown..? Uptown/Victory Park is not downtown.

There is plenty going on in DFW, but like swtsig said, downtown Houston has over 20 developments U/C. Crane galore, all across the core..

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Houston is the best city ever! It has the widest highways, the most construction projects going on, a lot of HOV lanes, and an awesome transit system!

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I would give a tour to Houstonion but you never know who is and who is not a serial killer

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Look, I'm pretty sure there's a blurb at the top of this sub that pretty clearly states "No city vs. city arguments" but to use Houston's freeways as a mark against the city in comparison to Dallas is pretty damn ironic.

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Demo underway on landmark East Dallas property on Greenville Avenue

Steve Brown
January 9, 2016
 
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Owner Columbia Pacific Advisors plans to build a new apartment community on the site.

 

The Seattle-based developer plans to build more than 400 units on the property There will also be townhouses constructed facing the residential neighborhood.  

 

Dallas architect Good Fulton & Farrell designed the project.

 

Construction of the new buildings will start after the property is cleared. “We are targeting about May,” said Columbia Pacific’s Brit Funk.

 

She said the new rental community should open in late 2017.

 

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Houston is the best city ever! It has the widest highways, the most construction projects going on, a lot of HOV lanes, and an awesome transit system!

 

if you want to get butt hurt over comments, of which mine were in no way meant to be taken derogatorily towards Dallas, don't go spouting off with erroneous comments such as this:

 

I know that in Houston you guys are used to having big corporate offices with nothing around it to even make it a destination unless you work there but here in Dallas I would say that we are heading towards having a much more urban city than Houston. 
 

 

which again, is factually inaccurate and pretty disingenuous. i merely pointed out that Houston's "urban core", especially its CBD, is almost certainly outpacing Dallas' "urban core" in development and will likely continue to do so.

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Uptown/Victory Park is not downtown.

 

Yea but its pretty darn close and well within city limits.

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Uptown/Victory Park is not downtown.

 

Yea but its pretty darn close and well within city limits.

 

and i'm not arguing to the contrary. i just took umbrage with someone saying dallas is "heading towards having a much more urban city than Houston" and that we in Houston are only used to large corporate campuses in the middle of nowhere. those were foolish statements.

 

anyways enough of this derailment. dallas is doing big things right now and that's to be applauded.

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Construction starts on Victory Park cinema and high-rise project

Steve Brown
January 12, 2016
 
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International theater operator Cinepolis USA will operate the 700-seat, 8-screen move palace when it opens in late 2017 or early 2018.

About 20,000 square feet of retail space will be located on the ground floor of the new building. A 640-acre parking garage is included. 

 

“The theater will sit atop the garage and the retail,” Fair said.

 
A 285-unit apartment tower developed by Lennar Multifamily is also planned on the block.
 
“The apartment tower will face the park and downtown,” he said. “They will deliver the apartments at a similar time to the theater.”
 
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Tonie Auer
January 13, 2016
 
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The wait is over: construction on the long-anticipated redevelopment of the old Valley View Mall should kick off by summer.

He’s working with the City of Dallas and councilman Lee Kleinman to finalize the street infrastructure plan; all of the pieces were approved at the end of 2015. The councilman has also been working with the Dallas Midtown Park Foundation to secure the 20-acre Midtown Commons Park Three projects will start simultaneously: a new AMC theater on top of 80k SF of office that sits atop retail, a hotel on top of retail and a new grocery store on top of retail. And, we’ll finally say goodbye to the old mall with its demolition probably between July and October. He expects the first retail and the office space to open at the end of 2017 or beginning of 2018.

Scott says construction plans are being drawn now. Omniplan assisted with master planning and Dallas Midtown is working with WDG, 5G and NY-based Streetworks on the three projects. GCs haven't been selected yet; he expects final pricing to come in around April. He’s hoping to get the ink dried so he can announce the hotel and grocery flag at our State of the Market event.

 
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More information on 1640 Edison:

 

This Class A office tower, entitled 1640 Edison, will create amazing energy in the Dallas Design District. The new building at the corner of Edison Street and North Stemmons Freeway/I35, will be 17 floors. With destination retail and restaurant amenities on the first floor, and a tenant lounge also on the ground level, 1640 Edison rises to provide a roof terrace with an overhang carousel at the top to give the idea that roof is  floating mid-air. The northeast side of the building has large angled canted columns at the entrance to create a dramatic opening to the space. The materials for the building include industrial and natural elements  mixed - from glass, concrete and wood. The parking podium at 1640 Edison will be covered with an LED-lit mesh that will highlight the building for exciting visibility from Stemmons Freeway. The office building will also include two levels of loft space, an outstanding amenity to meet the needs of the modern work environment.

 

 
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Commune + Ilume Tower

 
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The design of the new mixed-use development, Ilume, will continue the exciting momentum for the Design District in Dallas, Texas. This 25-story building will be one of the tallest buildings in the Design District. Ilume will bring 213 rooms of premiere residential space and 147 hotel rooms to the corner of Oak Lawn and North Stemmons Freeway.
 
The development will have a number of amenities such as a 1500 SF rooftop dog park, rooftop garden, large hotel pool deck, pool bar, resident pool, fitness center, meeting rooms, sky lobby, and wonderful downtown Dallas views. 
 
The architectural elements throughout the project were inspired by the spirit and history of the Design District. Flair, fashion, patterns, textures, and arts of the already existing area heavily influenced the design of the architectural elements throughout the project. The contour of the building uses volumetric thick and thin lines realizing a curved effect. 
 
The feature architectural element is described as a stitched side (corner of building) that will be lit at night, like a beacon welcoming you into the city. The orientation of the building is positioned so each room has a great view of the Dallas city skyline. The interior design includes soft textures, rich colors, and polished materials, such as a luxurious marble tile.
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Very excited for the Design district but I'm really happy about the Midtown project. Its near me. I can't wait to see those cranes up and watch that skyline grow!

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More information on 1640 Edison:

 

Not impressed.  Sic needs to come to the TMC to take care of his STD.  Nothing over 500 feet in Dallas.  Our 609 Main St. building webcam is down.  It is at 33 floors hopefully top out in May to 49 floors, then the crown. 

 
 

 

 
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Very excited for the Design district but I'm really happy about the Midtown project. Its near me. I can't wait to see those cranes up and watch that skyline grow!

Skyline grow? Am I wrong in thinking everything proposed for that development so far has been 3-4 stories..?

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TxDOT is planning another deck park in Dallas, this time in Oak Cliff. 

 
I'll keep you updated as this unveils.
 

Recently, the Southern Gateway project has been adorned with a deck park proposal of its own. The proposal before the RTC includes a $30 million provision that would add a deck park over Interstate 35E somewhere between Colorado Avenue and the Dallas Zoo. It is to be paid for with $20 million from the RTC and $10 million from either the city of Dallas or private donors.

 
Here's the article.
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 Am I wrong in thinking everything proposed for that development so far has been 3-4 stories..?

 

No offense sir but yes you are:

 

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TxDOT is planning another deck park in Dallas, this time in Oak Cliff.

I'll keep you updated as this unveils.

Here's the article.

Correlation doesn't equal causation, but it still gives me hope for a deck park over the future 69/45 project in downtown Htown.

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I really really hope it turns out looking like that if not better but realistically I'll just be glad that they are getting rid of soooo much surface parking and a dying mall even if it's not all tall like that.

My cheap movies are going to be over when the new theater is finished though. I can watch a movie there for about $3 a ticket.

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Skyline grow? Am I wrong in thinking everything proposed for that development so far has been 3-4 stories..?

In this video the developer say that the Midtown skyline will look like Uptown Dallas in 8 years. Gives me some hope that something awesome is coming and it's close to me.

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Correlation doesn't equal causation, but it still gives me hope for a deck park over the future 69/45 project in downtown Htown.

 

Read more about the project, including public meetings, here.

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Via  Dollaztx on SSC:

 

http://bizbeatblog.dallasnews.com/2015/09/first-major-project-set-to-start-in-dallas-midtown-district-along-lbj-freeway.html/

 

Construction is ready to kick off on the first major development in Dallas’ Midtown redevelopment district along LBJ Freeway.

Apartment developer Mill Creek Residential has purchased a 4-acre property just east of the Galleria Dallas complex where it will construct a luxury apartment community.

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Mill Creek’s planned rental community will have 321 units in five story buildings.

The project will be similar to two apartment projects the developer has done along North Central Expressway north of Uptown

 

 

This is great news. The area is revving up..with property sales too.(read related links) Now build those bigger towers! :P

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Okay, so a 5 story apartment complex..

 

 

FINALLY: $300M FIRST PHASE OF DALLAS MIDTOWN TO START

Tonie Auer

January 13, 2016

 

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80,000 sq ft of office, movie theater, retail, grocery. The only thing that might be over a few stories here is the mystery hotel..

 

 

No offense sir but yes you are:

 

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Hmm.. maybe i missed the plans for all of those buildings. I only saw real proposals for the projects i mentioned above.

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Uptown tower project starts with morning groundbreaking

Steve Brown
January 15, 2016
 
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The project at Pearl Street and Woodall Rodgers Freeway is the largest development Crow has done in central Dallas since the 1980s.                        
PriceWaterhouseCoopers will lease 200,000 square feet of space in the Park District project — the first business to commit to the development. The office building will be named PwC Tower.
Park District will open in late 2017. The building was designed by Dallas architect HKS. Balfour Beatty Construction  is the general contractor. CBRE is leasing the project.
 
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Not a development per se, but a milestone in Dallas real estate. 

 
Steve Brown
January 15, 2016
 
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It’s the biggest home sale in Dallas history.

With a price tag of $100 million, the 27,000-square-foot mansion has been purchased by Dallas financier Andy Beal.

The Hicks mansion – also called the Crespi Estate – dates back to the 1930s. The house was totally rebuilt and substantially enlarged starting in 2000.

 

The main house has seven bedrooms plus additional staff bedrooms. The master suite alone is 3,000 square feet.

 
There’s a separate 2-story guesthouse and an entertainment building with theater, gamerooms and other features.
 
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How far is Midtown Dallas from the Downtown/Uptown area? Does DART rail come to the Midtown area? If not are there future plans? I could see a subway working here.

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Midtown is about ten miles north of Main Street.

Rumor is TxDOT planned for DART to build a future line to the Midtown/Galleria area, from where I am not sure.

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I heard the the 635 expansion was built with a possibility of a subway parallel to the tollway.

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Okay, so a 5 story apartment complex..

 

 

80,000 sq ft of office, movie theater, retail, grocery. The only thing that might be over a few stories here is the mystery hotel..

 

 

 

Hmm.. maybe i missed the plans for all of those buildings. I only saw real proposals for the projects i mentioned above.

 

The apt complex is only the first step. Designs and specifics for the future bldgs are in the works. Search all the articles yourself. Sorry Im not in the mood to spoon feed anyone.

 

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The apt complex is only the first step. Designs and specifics for the future bldgs are in the works. Search all the articles yourself. Sorry Im not in the mood to spoon feed anyone.

Spoon feed anyone? I've read all the articles. You'll have to forgive me for being skeptical of these "Midtown" renderings..

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Nah I just come here for further discussion sometimes the other sites get boring. I don't understand this type of behavior on the Internet. Only here is there really a competition between people from both cities but some of the people here are ridiculously pessimistic about Dallas. I remeber once in DallasMetropolis there was this guy trying to put down Houston and predicting that its economy would fail because of the oil or whatever and people got pissed off about it even if they weren't from Houston. They didn't allow Houston bashing.

Here on the other hand some users here seem like the type of people that would smile if they heard that Dallas was doing poorly.

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Nah I just come here for further discussion sometimes the other sites get boring. I don't understand this type of behavior on the Internet. Only here is there really a competition between people from both cities but some of the people here are ridiculously pessimistic about Dallas. I remeber once in DallasMetropolis there was this guy trying to put down Houston and predicting that its economy would fail because of the oil or whatever and people got pissed off about it even if they weren't from Houston. They didn't allow Houston bashing.

Here on the other hand some users here seem like the type of people that would smile if they heard that Dallas was doing poorly.

I've noticed this type of sentiment from both sides of the "rivalry", and its hardly limited to HAIF. Dallas is doing great, but some of these proposals just aren't realistic.

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Spoon fed, force fed or regurgitation –I'm skeptical of everything posted at HAIF. Especially beautiful renderings. And ESPECIALLY the beautiful renderings on THIS particular thread. It always feels like someone is trying to sell you something on this thread. Almost always something better than what it is.

 

If there is one thing HAIF has proven to me –Dallas HAIFers really care about what Houston HAIFers think. That's the whole point of soliciting responses to a Houston based forum, right?

 

If you scroll up the thread a bit you will see an official groundbreaking. So what's fake about that?

Yes I care what Houstonians think because they are one, if not the only Texas city, in the same tier as us architecturally.

Dallas is basically Houston's younger brother. Are we not supposed to bounce ideas off our older brother for opinions?

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If you scroll up the thread a bit you will see an official groundbreaking. So what's fake about that?

Yes I care what Houstonians think because they are one, if not the only Texas city, in the same tier as us architecturally.

Dallas is basically Houston's younger brother. Are we not supposed to bounce ideas off our older brother for opinions?

Dallas and Houston are the biggest cities in Texas. San Antonio doesn't even compete with Austin and it's fallen way behind but hey thanks for the expansive city limits San Antonio has they can call themselves the second largest city in Texas.

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Why can't we be friends....whhhyyy can't weeee be friends...

Because some people here get offended when others post pretty renderings of buildings planned in Dallas lol. They start telling us that it might be that WE are insecure.

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Development and underconstruction are two different issues.  Downtown Houston is expanding.  I was impressed with Dallas last week.  Just wait when the Panamal Expainson starts.  The Port Of Houston already has 4, 300 foot cranes for the huge container ships.  Houston is ready , and TMC continues to build with two expansions including UT.  So Dallas do not think we relay only on oil.  Go to Houston.org to see how much money comes into our city with the port and medical center the largest in the world.  Houston's GNP is so much larger then all of DFW!  I do like the pictures, please send more.          

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I don't think guys from Dallas are insecure because they post pretty renderings. I think they're insecure because they have little flaccid buildings.  :P

Reminder Respectful discussions only. My-city-is-better-than-your-city flame wars are not permitted on HAIF. "He started it" is not a valid excuse. Both parties in a flame war may have their accounts suspended or terminated. Just walk away. Flames will be deleted without notice. Please report violations to a member of the moderating team, or to the Editor.

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Development and underconstruction are two different issues.  Downtown Houston is expanding.  I was impressed with Dallas last week.  Just wait when the Panamal Expainson starts.  The Port Of Houston already has 4, 300 foot cranes for the huge container ships.  Houston is ready , and TMC continues to build with two expansions including UT.  So Dallas do not think we relay only on oil.  Go to Houston.org to see how much money comes into our city with the port and medical center the largest in the world.  Houston's GNP is so much larger then all of DFW!  I do like the pictures, please send more.          

 

Someone has been putting marijuana in Kitty's bowl again. He actually gave Dallas a compliment. :lol:

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I don't think guys from Dallas are insecure because they post pretty renderings. I think they're insecure because they have little flaccid buildings.  :P

 

Im not offended by this at all. I like the way the city is looking. Very proud. And I know bigger things are coming. B)

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^Im really digging those Brownstones. Reminds me of fond memories of The Huxtables!

 

...oh wait.

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Reported topic so a bunch of off-topic posts deleted.  To reiterate the sub-forum notice:

 

 

Reminder Respectful discussions only. My-city-is-better-than-your-city flame wars are not permitted on HAIF. "He started it" is not a valid excuse. Both parties in a flame war may have their accounts suspended or terminated. Just walk away. Flames will be deleted without notice.

 

The topic here is Dallas development, so keep your posts on that.  We're not running Dallas v Houston contests here.

 

 

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