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Update Re: EADO Grocery Store

Traci Jack from EaDo · 21m ago

Hi Neighbors, 

I received the following from Councilman Gallegos' office when I inquired about efforts to bring retail, a grocer specifically, to EADO: 

We’re fully committed to bring a quality grocery store to the area. We’ve actually had numerous discussions about the former Finger property at Cullen and 45 as a possible site. However, the only retailer that has expressed interest in the last two years – the only grocer that could make that EaDo site work, based on a number of metrics grocers use – was Walmart. In fact, we held a couple of meetings with area stakeholders, including leadership from both EaDo and Eastwood, and hoped that we could finalize a deal. Unfortunately, late last year Walmart determined the Finger site was no longer feasible. 

We are working with Lovett Commercial (owner of the Finger site) and the city’s economic development office to find another suitable grocer. Once that has been done we can look at incentives the city could offer (if necessary) to make the site more attractive. As you may know, just last month the city used federal dollars to lure HEB to a site off 288. For that deal, the city purchased the site using federal EDI (Economic Development Initiative) funds, will turn it over to the Housing Corporation and they, in turn, will sublease the land to HEB. HEB will fully fund the construction of the store. EDI funds are restricted to certain areas of town, and unfortunately Cullen at 45 is not in the EDI zone. To give you some perspective on how complex these arrangements are, the HEB deal was in the works for over two years. 

We completely agree with you, residents should not be having to drive across town to find a grocery store. We have not given up, and Councilman Gallegos is determined to bring a quality grocer to the community. 

Thanks again for the message and for your support on this matter. 

If you could like to follow-up send an email to his Chief of Staff:Daniel.Santamaria@houston.gov

 

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12 hours ago, HNathoo said:

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Update Re: EADO Grocery Store

Traci Jack from EaDo · 21m ago


We completely agree with you, residents should not be having to drive across town to find a grocery store. We have not given up, and Councilman Gallegos is determined to bring a quality grocer to the community. 
 

 

That's a bit of an exaggeration considering there's a Kroger within half a mile of this location.

 

Even if you are afraid of that Kroger (and if you live in the East End, there's no reason you should be afraid of it), there's a fiesta just under 3 miles, a walmart 3 miles, or a HEB 4 and a half miles. Oh, and that Midtown randalls is also 3 miles. All well within acceptable driving distance.

 

Yes, that site should probably be retail, but the reason Walmart likely backed away was because there's no easy freeway access to the site, so whatever retail goes there is going to be sized for the amount of people they'll get. Sure there's university students, but they don't have huge budgets, and when they hop in their car to go somewhere they're likely going to the Kroger half a mile down the road because it's going to be cheaper.

 

If they don't like the selection at Kroger then they should first of all tell them what selection they would like, and second of all, they should shop there. Kroger isn't going to invest in their current property if they aren't seeing more influx of buyers. Luckily though, at least from my anecdotal evidence, that Kroger is seeing more business.

 

It really bothers me though that they aren't willing to acknowledge that there is the Kroger like right there, I mean, it is literally in Eastwood. The staff is always super nice, and the management team is really doing their part to keep repeat business.

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1 hour ago, samagon said:

 

That's a bit of an exaggeration considering there's a Kroger within half a mile of this location.

 

Even if you are afraid of that Kroger (and if you live in the East End, there's no reason you should be afraid of it), 

 

I went to this Kroger once and got caught up in the middle of an hold-up / robbery in the store - not going again !!  As you said, there are several other options and I have used them all and like them all...

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3 hours ago, HoustonMidtown said:

 

I went to this Kroger once and got caught up in the middle of an hold-up / robbery in the store - not going again !!  As you said, there are several other options and I have used them all and like them all...

 

Being held up can happen at ANY grocery store. I was held up near the Galleria years ago. Has nothing to do with how nice a store is or how comfortable its surroundings may feel. 

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4 hours ago, HoustonMidtown said:

 

I went to this Kroger once and got caught up in the middle of an hold-up / robbery in the store - not going again !!  As you said, there are several other options and I have used them all and like them all...

 

44 minutes ago, intencity77 said:

 

Being held up can happen at ANY grocery store. I was held up near the Galleria years ago. Has nothing to do with how nice a store is or how comfortable its surroundings may feel. 

 

to be fair, the nick-name of this Kroger is Kombat Kroger, but like you said, anyone can get caught up in the wrong place at the wrong time.

 

I am at this Kroger about once a week, cause it's about 1 mile from my house. They don't have everything I want, but they have everything I need: produce, milk, eggs, bread.

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1 hour ago, cspwal said:

Non-native here, but what are the nicknames for the Krogers?  I thought Kombat Kroger was on Montrose

 

Montrose Kroger = Disco Kroger

Cullen/Polk Kroger = Kombat Kroger

Studemont/i10 Kroger = Alumni Kroger (all recent college grads)

 

Are there any other grocery store nicknames I should know?

 

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11 hours ago, Sanjorade said:

I hear we are getting closer and closer to getting something in the Lovett site on Dowling. Possible a CVS and some sort of grocer. I'm hoping for Trader Joes.

I've heard CVS and sprouts for months now, but I'll believe it when I see it. 

 

 

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2 hours ago, ljchou said:

Lovett Commercial changed the brochure from retail to a 610-unit multifamily building surrounded by a chic-fil-a and a 7/11. Some plots are now left empty, some are marked "future development".

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610 units is a lot for that site. And given the student housing immediately across Cullen and the development on Hussion St., and Lovett’s history, I’d be willing to wager that this will be at least partially subsidized/affordable housing through the LIHTC program or similar programs.

 

Just what this area needs more of. . .

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22 hours ago, ljchou said:

Lovett Commercial changed the brochure from retail to a 610-unit multifamily building surrounded by a chic-fil-a and a 7/11. Some plots are now left empty, some are marked "future development".


 https://www.lovettcommercial.com/properties/houston/i-45-and-cullen (archive link)


Brochure:
https://www.lovettcommercial.com/Pdf.aspx?id=234 (archive link)

 

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(direct link to full size, non compressed image, easier to zoom in and read what's on the site map)

 





Good catch @ljchou!


So, this Lovett Commercial development will be named Coogs Crossing. It will also  be a multifamily residential with retail pads lining a portion of it.

Since this is expected to become student housing, I can see the need for a Chick-fil-A and 7-Eleven here. That Chick-fil-A will be more convenient than the one on South Wayside and the Gulf Freeway, plus the one on the campus of University of Houston.

Also the density from the apartments, UH and the surrounding neighborhoods can support a Chick-fil-A. Outside of Texas Southern University and University of Houston,  I don't think there's a freestanding Chick-fil-A in Third Ward. With this one planned right on the Third Ward boundary, this will serve the Third Ward and Riverside Terrance communities and those residing in the East End closer to downtown.


From the brochure:

 

  • New 500+ ( 610 ) unit student housing project across Cullen
  • 2020 delivery date

 


 

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Would much rather have an empty building than cheap student housing and trash fast-food. Hey, maybe they'll put a boost mobile in too! At least with an empty building, there was a chance the area could improve enough to attract something better. But now this garbage will have a life expectancy of 50 years or so.

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On 1/19/2020 at 8:16 PM, Qwertybot said:

Would much rather have an empty building than cheap student housing and trash fast-food. Hey, maybe they'll put a boost mobile in too! At least with an empty building, there was a chance the area could improve enough to attract something better. But now this garbage will have a life expectancy of 50 years or so.

this was a similar argument that the heights had for the heights walmart.

 

aka, not going straight to the highest possible use for the land.

 

gotta start somewhere, this will transform the area, and will lead to more development.

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On 1/7/2020 at 2:23 PM, butterfly said:

Obviously I wish this was going to be a grocery store, but I guess this is better than a Walmart. If this site is destined for fast food restaurants, my fingers are crossed for a Whataburger! 

 

Walmart is one of the biggest grocers in the US.  And they usually have a fast food restaurant inside.  That would be a win, win.

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12 hours ago, august948 said:

 

Walmart is one of the biggest grocers in the US.  And they usually have a fast food restaurant inside.  That would be a win, win.

 

but there's a Walmart 2 miles from here on Wayside, so maybe if Target wants to compete in the area this is there jam, but does Walmart build stores this close to each other?

 

from a purely grocery perspective, HEB would be good too, but there's one at Gulfgate (3 miles). Kroger would be the most logical, build a new one, then close the Kombat Kroger that was styled after something out of The Shining. But then, Kroger just dumped money into that location to update it a bit, so that's a no go too.

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13 minutes ago, samagon said:

 

but there's a Walmart 2 miles from here on Wayside, so maybe if Target wants to compete in the area this is there jam, but does Walmart build stores this close to each other?

 

from a purely grocery perspective, HEB would be good too, but there's one at Gulfgate (3 miles). Kroger would be the most logical, build a new one, then close the Kombat Kroger that was styled after something out of The Shining. But then, Kroger just dumped money into that location to update it a bit, so that's a no go too.

 

Walmart has a couple of stores that are about 3 miles apart as the crow flies on the west side of town.  But with the existing Kroger, HEB, and Walmart not too far away, maybe the best use of this land is student housing after all.

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On 1/29/2020 at 1:18 AM, S3W said:

Might be nice to have a mini bank with atm as a part of the retail. And maybe a Jason’s Deli or something similar. 

Perhaps with the flood of townhouses and new apartments Mandola's Deli will stay open past 6.

 

Fingers crossed the multi-family apartments don't take Tuscan cues from the affordable housing units.

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On 1/26/2020 at 9:50 PM, samagon said:

this was a similar argument that the heights had for the heights walmart.

 

aka, not going straight to the highest possible use for the land.

 

gotta start somewhere, this will transform the area, and will lead to more development.

 

Demo work is still continuing if anyone can believe it.

 

Anyway, I agree with samagon. I'm actually excited because this area is finally starting to get some serious redevelopment, even if this isn't what everybody wanted. I can tell you now, UH students are going to be pretty excited for this to come in and expect a good amount of bike traffic along Cullen to come here. As a student who graduated 2014, I certainly wish this was here when I went!

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There's that last bit of warehouse still holding on for dear life for a while now. Someone asked me if it was going to be apart of the project.

 

I'm a big confused. So we're getting a big apartment complex with some retail/gas station pad sites? Not a giant parking lot sea with a big box store? All of my neighbors are convinced a Burlington Coat Factory is going here.

 

 

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8 minutes ago, Tumbleweed_Tx said:

an old friend was a civil engineer, he did a survey on the foundation for the Fingers building. He said that foundation was so thick that after a nuclear war, the only things that would be left behind would be cockroaches and that slab. 

You need a pretty thick slab to keep the old baseball stadium buried

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22 hours ago, Montrose1100 said:

Ah okay, I see on their site the Ross and Burlington portion were nixed. 


From what I recall, Lovett seems to just randomly list retailers as tenants on site plans to generate interest without any sort of agreement in place. They did the same thing when they used Sprouts on the site plan and renderings for the old Houston Post building on Polk. 
 

Maybe someone involved in commercial real estate could further elaborate?

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2 hours ago, thedistrict84 said:


From what I recall, Lovett seems to just randomly list retailers as tenants on site plans to generate interest without any sort of agreement in place. They did the same thing when they used Sprouts on the site plan and renderings for the old Houston Post building on Polk. 
 

Maybe someone involved in commercial real estate could further elaborate?

 

I think that's a pretty standard practice among retail project developers.

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