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Here's the truth; people are LAZY.

 

There is plenty of parking at Hermann Park. There's the zoo lot, the golf lot, on-street parking, medical center garages, and museum district garages. There's also the easy option of parking anywhere in Midtown and taking the train. 

 

I find it amusing that people would rather circle in their cars for half an hour waiting for a spot rather than walk 10 minutes when their final destination is a f'in park.

 

Hermann Park is our city's crown jewel. We'll have spent around $100 million on the park/zoo/miller by the time this 100th birthday is done and you want to add a parking garage? 

 

No thanks. It's time to change our culture. Parking cannot continue to be a "right" in Central Houston.

 

I'm cool with a parking garage north of Hermann Drive in the context of more development of the Museum District. Hermann at Jackson looks good.

 

For within the park, here's a question: would you be for a parking garage if it meant a smaller overall footprint for parking by removing surface parking lots. The zoo could be expanded or just plain old fashioned green space for now. If you'd still oppose such a parking garage, how would you feel if several levels of it were below ground? Or all of it?

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Here's the truth; people are LAZY.

 

There is plenty of parking at Hermann Park. There's the zoo lot, the golf lot, on-street parking, medical center garages, and museum district garages. There's also the easy option of parking anywhere in Midtown and taking the train. 

 

I find it amusing that people would rather circle in their cars for half an hour waiting for a spot rather than walk 10 minutes when their final destination is a f'in park.

 

Hermann Park is our city's crown jewel. We'll have spent around $100 million on the park/zoo/miller by the time this 100th birthday is done and you want to add a parking garage? 

 

No thanks. It's time to change our culture. Parking cannot continue to be a "right" in Central Houston.

 

I'd agree with you for those who tend to be couples/older families. However, most of the people parking at the zoo lot are families with multiple kids with multiple strollers, other junk to load up to bring with the kids, picnic supplies, etc. and visitors from out of town. If Houston were a city with true mass transit... then you'd have a point.

 

Yes, there are a lot of options nearby for parking... but no one knows about them unless you live nearby. For those visiting, there is no clear signage or indication of where there is public parking available and where it's at. Heck, even the Ben Taub parking garage (where people park at and walk across to the zoo entrance on the back side) has notices posted saying that the garage is to only be used for hospital visitors.

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I'd agree with you for those who tend to be couples/older families. However, most of the people parking at the zoo lot are families with multiple kids with multiple strollers, other junk to load up to bring with the kids, picnic supplies, etc. and visitors from out of town. If Houston were a city with true mass transit... then you'd have a point.

 

Yes, there are a lot of options nearby for parking... but no one knows about them unless you live nearby. For those visiting, there is no clear signage or indication of where there is public parking available and where it's at. Heck, even the Ben Taub parking garage (where people park at and walk across to the zoo entrance on the back side) has notices posted saying that the garage is to only be used for hospital visitors.

 

I think that explains it well. There are two types of people in this situation: those who need signs to tell them exactly where to park and those who just park. Some people need a signs leading them all the way from 288 telling them to park at on street parking in the museum district to go see a concert at Miller Outdoor. It's probably mostly a suburban/city divide, but not entirely.

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Does anyone think that more cars entering the park would be an enhancement?

 

Really, I'm thinking a garage more for having an organized system to park. Even if the number of spots stayed the same and they claimed more greenspace, I think having an organized "park here" and "lot full" type of system would make more sense than the free-for-all it currently is. It would probably generate enough money to pay for tons of enhancements to the park as well.

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I can't think of a single city in which the signature park has a parking structure in the middle of it. Now, if someone wants to pony up to donate the $50 million it would take to eliminate all the surface parking and bury a 5 level all-underground garage in order to reclaim green space, then I would be all for it.

 

However, I'd personally rather see money going to replant the Miller Hill, build a new centennial garden, reforest the park, take care of the aging oaks, add public art, etc... 

 

 

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The parking situation is pretty amazing at times. The police close down Hermann Drive at Cambridge often to prevent any more traffic from entering the park.

It sucks for those who load up the kids for a day at the park only to arrive at a massive traffic jam on MacGregor. But such is the price of popularity.

Even though I live 5 minutes from the park, if I'm not going to arrive before 10 am, I take the train from Fannin South. My little boy prefers the train trip anyways.

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an above ground parking structure would be a slap in the face to what the park stands for.

this. the only way i could compromise is if it meant reducing the footprint of the current parking lots at the zoo for more green space or an expanded zoo, like someone else mentioned. and even then only if the garage is no higher than 2-3 levels (just shorter than the tops of the trees) and covered in ivy and lots of dense tall trees surrounding it, hiding the structure like they do buildings in The Woodlands. and it would be nice if the roof were a garden or at least grass to further hide the garage from the views of the highrises around the park.

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I have a suggestion that some may agree to, others of course will not. There are several acres of Hermann Park land south of the zoo across Cambridge (McGregor, Outer Belt) that is really unused, except by Ben Taub emergency room smokers, and an old log cabin. The "Pioneer" cabin can be moved into the park somewhere, or to another location. The smokers can smoke in the middle of the street for all I care. The land sits idle, as a buffer between the Medical Center and the park. Why not let parking garages be the buffer. The garages could be connected to the park with wide pedestrian bridges over Cambridge. (The only problem would be keeping medical center employees from parking there during the day..........or maybe not)

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What they also need is a generously large drop off point.

As it currently stands, you're blocking traffic that are trying to do the same thing and then becomes a traffic jam as it starts to interfere with people trying to find a parking spot.

I know there is a drop off point on the med center side, but it isn't clearly identified and looks abandoned.

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I'd agree with you for those who tend to be couples/older families. However, most of the people parking at the zoo lot are families with multiple kids with multiple strollers, other junk to load up to bring with the kids, picnic supplies, etc. and visitors from out of town. If Houston were a city with true mass transit... then you'd have a point.

 

Yes, there are a lot of options nearby for parking... but no one knows about them unless you live nearby. For those visiting, there is no clear signage or indication of where there is public parking available and where it's at. Heck, even the Ben Taub parking garage (where people park at and walk across to the zoo entrance on the back side) has notices posted saying that the garage is to only be used for hospital visitors.

 

Well then, it sounds like a signage problem more than a missing parking garage problem.

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Man this is so true...and make 10 story garage...with a mural on all 4 sides and giant letters that say parking on top in Neon red lights....

you are either a good jokester or.. idk... im hoping that was a very sarcastic joke. a 10 story garage with neon lights? completely opposite of blending in with the park setting.

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This is getting out of hand.. That corner has been a popular homeless hangout for some time now. Residents and visitors shouldn't have to deal with this crap in one of Houston's most popular parks. Hopefully the city finally starts to do something about it.

 

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HOUSTON - There was chaos in Hermann Park Thursday when at least 16 people had to be rushed to the hospital.

At least some of them were suffering from the effects of synthetic marijuana or Kush, according to Ruy Lozano with the Houston Fire Department.  He said the heat makes the effects of Kush even worse.

One ambulance after another responded to emergency calls at Fannin near North MacGregor. There were so many patients, police had to call in extra units to take care of them all.

"This is getting ridiculous. So many incidents out here of Kush. Need to get HPD out here stat!" said one firefighter responding to the scene. 


http://www.khou.com/news/crime/hfd-several-people-hospitalized-after-overdosing-at-hermann-park/253952689

 

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HFD deals with Kush-related problems at Hermann Park almost every day.


http://abc13.com/news/16-people-transported-to-hospital-after-kush-overdose-/1398932/

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I walk by there often at lunch and regularly see these people fighting, screaming, cursing, have knives on there hip... all with an HPD officer nearby and families trying to navigate to the zoo. There's no excuse for why the city has tolerated it.

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In the wake of 16 people hospitalized from overdoses of synthetic cannabinoids known as Kush or K2, Houston Mayor Sylvester Turner has vowed to "take back our parks" by bulking up police presence there & in other "hot spots" across citywide.

 

Turner had announced on Thursday an "aggressive plan" in creating a 50-person downtown police patrol division, the transfer of about 175 officers to patrol beats, an overtime program to add roving bike & golf-cart patrols in city parks & the hiring of 13 park rangers. "They are scaring away families & taxing our emergency medical services with their calls for help when they overdose," Turner said. "We can't have people smoking Kush & passing out just feet from where our children are playing."

 

http://abc13.com/news/houston-mayor-takes-aim-at-citys-kush-epidemic/1407870/

 

 

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On 7/14/2016 at 2:42 PM, LTAWACS said:

Have the scum returned? I mean... it seems they always come back... How can we eliminate them?

 

give them lots of money.

 

They might use that money to lift themselves out of poverty.

They might use that money to buy lots of drugs and eventually die of overdose.

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On Wednesday, July 20, 2016 at 7:02 PM, Montrose1100 said:

Perhaps someone can explain to me the allure of synthetic weed?

 

If you work at a job that regular drug tests or are on say probabtion then the synthetic weed can give you a similar feeling to being high on the natural stuff. And unlike the natural stuff, it can become addicting to some folks. 

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On 8/2/2016 at 0:48 PM, august948 said:

It's now the Kush Wendy's.  We have a new landmark!

 

This situation is getting a bit ridiculous...  They've moved across Main from the Wendy's, but night and day there are 30+ people just hanging out in a mob, doing lord knows what.  I drive by every morning, and they are up and at 'em by 8 a.m. like some scene out of the "Walking Dead."  Is it legal to just loiter like that?  I suppose it's about as good a spot as any for them to just hang around but it's a shame it's right off of Main St

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