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I thought this was the Park8 site, but it looks like this project is a little further south? *edit* It will be on the SE corner of the Belt and Beechnut.

 

Residential Tower: 20-floors

Hotel: 15-floors

 

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http://www.credgroup.com/projects_us.html

 

 

 

The site for the proposed Chinatown hotel is located within a 15-acre mixed-used KP Plaza development at the southeast quadrant of Beechnut Street and Beltway 8. Other probable uses within the development include restaurants, retail and residential. The hotel is located one exit from the heart of the Chinatown District and is also near the Westchase District, and international District. The picture below shows the current rendering of the development.

 

The project includes an upscale hotel about 250 rooms, and 120 high-rise residential units, and 35,000 square feet of retail space with a pad site for a premier restaurant.  CRED group acquired the land since early 21st century, and the land, which is made up by two parcels, has a total aggregated size of 13.8 acres. A detention pond serves the site has been built and licensed by City of Houston.

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Looks nice, however the location is not ideal, I think it should be on westheimer.

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Ugh! That's not mixed-use -.- Developer has no idea what mixed use really is. Not to mention I already don't care about this because each building is literally surrounded by parking. What a disappointment :/

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Surrounded by parking?  Really?

While it does have parking around it, I wouldn't say quite as dramatically as you.  Perhaps a better critique would be "this is in a bad location."  I do agree that the retail component is a bit of a stretch, but at least this developer is trying something a little different.

 

I like the towers - fairly bold design for such a suburban area, particularly for this city.

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CRED group acquired the land since early 21st century

 

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.....also known as 2000 to 2014.........?

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Surrounded by parking?  Really?

While it does have parking around it, I wouldn't say quite as dramatically as you.  Perhaps a better critique would be "this is in a bad location."  I do agree that the retail component is a bit of a stretch, but at least this developer is trying something a little different.

 

I like the towers - fairly bold design for such a suburban area, particularly for this city.

 

While it isn't a walmart, home depot or target sea of parking lots it still follows the typical suburban parking model. I will say that this is a very odd location for this and while I want suburbs to start create small midrise cores to help create their own centers for their communities, I think that this is a bit overboard. I know we don't have zoning but this is just odd with those towers. I do like the look of them both though. I....I'm just not feeling this one. I think it's a wasted opportunity to do something unique. I guess it's better than more strip malls, but it looks like we will be in this awkward stage of "how do you really create a pedestrian first suburban (or urban) environment" instead of a car centric one. Car's will always be important in this city and development will of course reflect that, but their should be a balanced relationship between pedestrian space and car dominant space.

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.....also known as 2000 to 2014.........?

 

yeah....that statement made me seem really old......and I'm only 24 xD

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I agree that this project could have done more, however we don't know if this is a phased project and the intent is to eventually upgrade by expanding outward and then replacing the low-rise structures with bigger buildings at some point.  It seems this company wants to create a "district" all of its own with an Asian centric demographic at its core.  Could work and it could eventually be a fairly interesting - though entirely modern area.  Or, it could be a failure?  CRED is a Chinese company right?

 

*Entirely moden "China Town" or whatever you want to call this part of Houston?  Since many cities have "China Towns" but they are usually an older area with buildings from the early wave of settlement from Asia.

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Looks pretty cool to me and not much different at all than uptown park.

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While it isn't a walmart, home depot or target sea of parking lots it still follows the typical suburban parking model. I will say that this is a very odd location for this and while I want suburbs to start create small midrise cores to help create their own centers for their communities, I think that this is a bit overboard. I know we don't have zoning but this is just odd with those towers. I do like the look of them both though. I....I'm just not feeling this one. I think it's a wasted opportunity to do something unique. I guess it's better than more strip malls, but it looks like we will be in this awkward stage of "how do you really create a pedestrian first suburban (or urban) environment" instead of a car centric one. Car's will always be important in this city and development will of course reflect that, but their should be a balanced relationship between pedestrian space and car dominant space.

yeah....that statement made me seem really old......and I'm only 24 xD

Why does this matter? It's in Westchase. If they wanted to build denser and more of a walkable model for mixed use it would be inside the loop. Where it's much more accepted to build that way.

Seriously, the expectations some of you have for even our most generic all-big box districts like Westchase or Energy Corridor is cut throat. I'm not looking for design or urbanity in these places, just looking for some filling in done vertically.

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Yawn. Hate to see good looking building plopped so far out of town. I guess now I can see why so many of you get bent out of shape when developers plant highrises in The Woodlands (even though I love it #hometown).

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Seriously, the expectations some of you have for even our most generic all-big box districts like Westchase or Energy Corridor is cut throat. I'm not looking for design or urbanity in these places, just looking for some filling in done vertically.

 

Personally I like the towers and would take those... anywhere in town.  They're not avant garde, but they are sleek and nice looking.  The retail lowrise(stripcenter) could be something greater, but its a start.  I still think this project is a multi-phased and the developer will expand - like what happened at City Center up the road.  The stripcenter retail/commerical will eventually be replaced.  At least this is my opinion.

 

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I like the location. One of my favorite parts of town. Chinatown needs a nice hotel for me to crash at after a long night of after hours drinking at the game rooms.

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In my best Eastern European accent, pointing with both fingers, "Miami Vice".

I do like the palms on the roof, which makes the pool up there unique for Houston. Kinda would like to see this along Buffalo Bayou. It's not anything special just a cute filler.

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holy cow urbannizer!  is this development for real... or some huge tease?  honestly, i cannot tell...


i would love to see this come into reality!


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Incidentally, that condo is a building with an office space component, according to the marketing materials. Or perhaps the office building will look exactly like the condo.

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^^^ is this for real urbannizer?  i just cannot tell if these people are joking are not....


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Translated. I think they plan to build one high-rise, the hotel and retail buildings first.

 

http://www.credusa.com/htdocs/pages.asp?id=24

 

 

 

KP project planning a total development area of ​​about 1, 386,670-square-foot (salable area of ​​about 1,000,000 square feet). Where the hotel is approximately 252,000 square feet (60,000 sq. Ft. Including where the underlying retail), and two high-rise apartments are the 225,000-square-foot office building is about 200,000 square feet, about 65,420 square street shops foot, two public parking garage is about 419,250 square feet. KP project will be developed in two phases. A project including hotels, a high-rise apartments, a parking garage and two street shops. Two projects including office buildings, apartments, parking garage and a separate dining room.

 

KP major property development projects for high-star brand hotel, according to hotel industry authoritative market assessment consultancy firm PKF made "KP hotel project feasibility report," KP project area, the market needs new high-star hotel, KP project land position in line with the construction of high-star hotel in the desired location, traffic and environmental and other basic conditions, PKF and recommended size of the hotel rooms in 250 and the corresponding ancillary area. In the report recommended five hotel brands, Sheraton Hotel and the Hilton company's Embassy Suite Hotel have confirmed the feasibility of the project. High-rise apartment project to undertake a natural extension of the hotel features, it can provide economical option for monthly sex tenants can also provide more room for profit for the hotel's ancillary facilities. Apartment 1 and Apartment -2 overall construction area of ​​about 450,000 square feet. Garage over portions of the approximately 150 fine decoration unit, unit average area of ​​about 1,500 square feet.

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I hope they build this. My home is just inside the belt off beechnut, and this area really needs some development that isn't another Western Union "cambiamos cheques" or pay-as-you-go telephone store. This rendering seems sketchy, but I will post a picture if there is any activity on that property.

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I can't stop repeating "the location" in my head, just so out of place but I guess anywhere is better than nowhere. 

 

Out of place...except for its proximity to New Chinatown. 

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I drove by this site yesterday and the pad site "Parcel A" is almost finished being framed.

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It looks very similar to the rendering, so maybe this project isn't quite dead.

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I love the buildings.  But, WTF is with all the stupid palm trees ?  This ISN'T Galveston.  It's not even Kemah I'm pretty sure - Geeeeez...

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On 6/3/2014 at 10:08 AM, Luminare said:

Ugh! That's not mixed-use -.- Developer has no idea what mixed use really is. Not to mention I already don't care about this because each building is literally surrounded by parking. What a disappointment :/

 

The building would actually be surrounded by many old apartment buildings.  Maybe they are trying to extend Chinatown further south.  

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On 3/15/2018 at 1:23 PM, AREJAY said:

I drove by this site yesterday and the pad site "Parcel A" is almost finished being framed.

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It looks very similar to the rendering, so maybe this project isn't quite dead.

 

I drove past this yesterday and the rendering does look like the same as the building being built.

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On 3/19/2018 at 4:14 PM, ArtNsf said:

I love the buildings.  But, WTF is with all the stupid palm trees ?  This ISN'T Galveston.  It's not even Kemah I'm pretty sure - Geeeeez...

 

So what? Palms grow just fine in Houston.

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10 hours ago, AnTonY said:

 

So what? Palms grow just fine in Houston.

Just my personal opinion.  But, most of the Houston area (not all) is in a zone where evergreen trees and other native plants and trees thrive.  For all practical purposes, the normal boundary for the palm tree is much closer to the coastline and about 3/4 the way to Galveston from Downtown.  Plus, I just think they are ugly for our area.  And, that is just my own opinion.  Thanks.

 

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We are a near tropical region ( unlike our cousin city north of us). Quite a few palms grow well here: Sabals, Pindos, Windmills. The latest freeze hurt several of my palms but the vast majority are recovering well. If the people landscaping KB Plaza choose wisely they should have no problems with their palms.

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nice, but you know, just because something "grows well" in our climate, doesn't always mean it's a good thing.  Palms in our area I've noticed, tend to be not very well kept up with and some look very "dirty" with all beards and little or no greenery.

 

Who knows though, you may all get your tropical wishes soon as the climate continues to warm and these palms start growing way up north and far west past San Antonio/Austin.  That is, if the "deluge" of droughts don't get in the way first.

 

Frankly, Memorial Park is a prime living example of the flora that is native to Houston in the bulk of the city and I applaud the efforts of the Buffalo Bayou folks for bringing back local native species of trees and plants to that area after decades, if not a century of neglect and/or non-native species gone awry.

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@ArtNsf

 

Galveston and the coast definitely have the most ideal palm growing conditions, as winter temperatures are mildest. But Houston still is mild enough for many palm species/genera to thrive, as are some other areas further inland. Just to name a few, you have the sabals, pindos, and windmills that @Twinsanity02 mentioned, as well as washingtonia, dates, and livistona. And yes, they thrive, to the point that they sprout through freeway cracks. That boundary of yours is meaningless as far as these species are concerned.

 

Evergreens are precisely the kind of flora that blend well with palms. Like butter and bread. Matter of fact, there are palms as native to Houston/Texas as the loblolly pines of Memorial are. But many non-native plants still thrive here, given the suitable climate, so there's no issue with their presence.

 

As far as "beards," that specifically applies to palms of the washingtonia genus, especially the filifera. That is actually their normal behavior, retaining dead fronds as a "skirt" to provide habitat for many organisms. The washingtonia genus originates from the deserts of the SW US/Baja Mexico, so drought will be the least of their worries. Same goes for date palms, which can be found in the Arabian desert, and other dry regions in Afro-Eurasia. And even the sabals, livistonias, etc and other humid climate palms still are highly tolerant of drought, and some other extremes (flooding, high salinity, wind, etc).

 

Therefore, many palm species are fantastic plants for Houston, and can easily fill all over the city, whether in our parks like Memorial and Hermann, in our new botanical garden, or all along the bayous. Nice company for all the loblollies pines, live oaks, bald cypress, and magnolias.

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IIRC, Montrose Blvd. used to have esplanades that featured palm trees. I read somewhere that neighbors expressed their relief when the palms were removed because they were a favorite breeding/nesting place for rats.

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