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General purpose store.

Groceries, toiletries, hardware, a few clothing items, a few shoes, pet supplies, few garden supplies, kitchenware and small appliances. A small dining section inside would be good too

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bumping because this building to me is not boring - ate at Irma's today and couldn't help but imagine what that little corner of DT may turn into soon.

 

Irma's the OG loc one is so legit. Pricey but seriously one of a kind. No menu, just talk to the fam.

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It was originally Grocers Supply (about 1940-late 50s/early 60s) before it moved out on Holcombe near 288 (and Thermal Supply moved in).

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unfortunately the architecture of it really isn't all that unique. It's really just a simple warehouse with loading docks for trucks and nothing more. If you really wanted to save this then you would really have to do a lot to it! I'm talking like knocking down some walls to place some much needed windows and completely overhauling the exterior. I'm surpised with the revitalization of the bayou and downtown that this area hasn't been touched at all. It all depends on what the city wants as the feel for this area. If they want an older feel then they will find some way to keep it. If they want a more contemporary setting then this one is as good as gone as it really doesn't and a lot to the community. I'm all for preserving our past, but it has to be stuff that adds to the narrative. but idk maybe someone will do something good with these old warehouses.

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I believe this block is suppose to be residential. I'm sure it will have retail because it required to receive the incentives. Not sure how tall it will be.

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1. Raze and build residential tower

 

2. Clean it up and convert it into a restaurant/bar complex

 

3. Indoor Paintball

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Except that there is no parking. I lived across the street from this building for 7 years and thought it had potential, but it's right on the Elysian viaduct, the parking lot across Elysian is hard to get to, and with Commerce being a one way street it's just a little too difficult to make it work. That being said it is big enough for a grocery store. I would have loved a grocery store there at the time. Until the Randall's was built in midtown we'd drive to Krogers on Montrose.

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Put a parking garage on the block immediately north. Or the one immediately northeast. Both blocks are seriously underutilized and neither has anything of architectural interest. 

 

Even better, put mixed use buildings on both of those blocks and include enough parking in their garages for the grocery store as well.

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Costco Downtown! There is a precedent for this kind of redevelopment in DC, and their lot charged for parking.

 

 

....please tell me that was sarcastic....

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Buldoze it to the ground and move the greyhound station there.

Negative. I'm in the east end. I think Katy would be a more appropriate place. After all... Katy-ian churches are running around downtown trying to spread their lies feed the homeless. Well then let's bring the needy to them.

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Someone over on the Northwest Mall (commonly referred to as either "Levcor's Post Oak Market", "What?", "potential Japanese passenger train terminus," or, "Much too far from downtown") thread on HAIF remarked that there was no viable corridor into downtown for HSR anyway.  Something tells me that if our engineering city is really as no-holds-barred as we like to proclaim, someone could have used The Houston Way of opaque negotiations to find a deal that would accommodate the Hardy extension *and* elevated passenger HSR -- or elevated HSR *and* a surface boulevard many stakeholders proposed -- in the Elysian Viaduct (commonly referred to as "a trusty way to get out of downtown with zero traffic," "that ugly eyesore," and, "Obviously doomed") right of way while it's under total replacement.

 

Due to some right-of-way acquisition delays, TXDoT didn't issue the final contract for Elysian Viaduct work until summer of 2016 anyway, which was plenty recent to know that Texas Central was on the move.

 

http://ftp.dot.state.tx.us/pub/txdot/get-involved/hou/elysian/030917-projectmap.pdf

 

Think about it:

 

The Ballpark at Union Station

Enron Field

Astros Field

Minute Maid Park...

It's only six years younger, to the month, than the ballpark in Arlington that's about to be replaced.  By the time Texas Central Railway construction is complete, we could just be renovating that superblock back into union station, with high-speed trains sailing above the verdant lawn into the middle of the civic space.*

 

Meanwhile, this block, on HCAD as** 101 Crawford rather than 1601 Commerce, got a new thread on the forum as 100 Crawford, which was merged with another while this thread was forgotten.  A Miami group has excavated the full city block after tearing down the humane but crumbled old architecture, and plans to build a six-floor apartment product:

https://www.houstonarchitecture.com/haif/topic/39116-the-regalia-at-the-park-100-crawford/?do=findComment&comment=584208

 

*  The vast cancelled UT data institute landholding for sale would obviously suit the MLB team's new Astrodomain Part II, no?

** Parcel 0011070000001

 

 

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Silly and out of left field is different than being genuinely difficult to piece together.  Are you really confused or just being silly back to a post posted in a silly tone?  The featured link to the map of the TxDOT project scope for the Elysian Viaduct rebuild shows that it comes down to the corner of Commerce and Crawford from well north of the bayou.  This thread is about the block at the corner of Commerce and Crawford and asked "What would you do [with this place]?"  Anyone imagining a high speed rail line accessing downtown from Dallas down part of a new multi-level infrastructure corridor in this alignment will not have any trouble realizing that Minute Maid is two blocks further down Crawford from the end of the existing infrastructure rebuild and picturing the passenger trains terminating there.  

 

The surrounding parking lots would redevelop to TOD high-rises quite readily when the Astros are ready to move elsewhere, which has happened in other big city baseball markets already, like Atlanta, and will happen here before too much longer.  I didn't go so far as to say what I would do on this particular site, just that it would orient to the new transit access and mention that the project actually being built has little special intention about it.  But I think it's all in line with the original thread, Luminare, and loses some brainstorming zest in the process of making it a spelled-out proposal instead of an informal brainstorm.  Houston wheelers and dealers do all sorts of behind the scenes horse-trading that the public can't figure out;  I would have thought it would be worth it for downtown's longterm convenience not to settle for Northwest Mall rail stations in the name of short-term convenience.

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