lockmat Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 (edited) Thor Equities. Kirby. This??? http://www.thorequities.com/portfolio/the-kirby-collection/ Latest renderings and info as of 9/2015: http://www.bizjournals.com/houston/morning_call/2015/09/massive-kirby-mixed-use-project-to-break-ground.html Edited September 29, 2015 by Urbannizer 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloud713 Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 (edited) it doesnt seem very tall? i would have expected something over 1million square feet to have a couple towers around 30 stories each. how tall is the tallest structure? you would think the offices and condos would both be a tower but. i couldnt tell from the site plans where the offices are or how tall the highrise is. there seems to be quite a bit of surface parking though.. :/so this is going directly south of the planned Phase III of the West Ave development? that should make for a good bit of pedestrian activity in the area.Heres an article from 2008 about Thor Equities acquisition of the site and a mention of The Kirby Collection, so i guess this isnt very new.. they are probably just now deciding to follow through after the market crash postponed it not long after they bought the site.http://www.bizjournals.com/houston/stories/2008/08/25/story1.html?page=all Edited February 3, 2014 by cloud713 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swtsig Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 going where ROAK currently stands. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subdude Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 The article says it is bounded by Kirby-Colquitt-Lake-West Main. This would encompass Cafe Express and the funeral home. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloud713 Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 No it definitely doesn't.. This seems to have grown a good bit in size, and the office component may be a new addition. How many square feet is River Oaks District, and how many acres is that site? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urbannizer Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 The rendering on the left: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sky-guy Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 (edited) How many floors is that? It looks to me about 20-25. Edited February 4, 2014 by Sky-guy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xsatyr Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 How many floors is that? It looks to me about 20-25. I'm counting like 15. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloud713 Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 yeah i count around 13 floors, but as we have determined, this is an old rendering for a smaller scaled project. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urbannizer Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 yeah i count around 13 floors, but as we have determined, this is an old rendering for a smaller scaled project. I don't think it's old, it was posted on their FB page in October. It also appears to be more detailed than the rendering Lockmat posted. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloud713 Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 (edited) I don't think it's old, it was posted on their FB page in October. It also appears to be more detailed than the rendering Lockmat posted.well that is interesting. there is no way the development rendered is anywhere near 1 million+ sq ft though. maybe 500,000.edit. they said it has 75,000 sq ft of retail space. there is no way even the 500,000 sq ft estimate i threw out is possible for a 13 story tower (2 of the floors being part of the retail), thats footprint doesnt even take up half of the block.from the sound of it, this project has changed drastically from those renderings.. where is the "high rise office" component in the renderings? Edited February 4, 2014 by cloud713 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nate Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 now i dont think Kirby is going to get a 40-50 story mixed use tower Why not? In my view, this is probably one of the best locations for a mixed used tower and the lack of large tracts of available land make a tall building more likely. There is a large retail market on Kirby, a large market for high rise residential, and a low office vacant rate with high rents. Makes sense to me. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dakota79 Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 (edited) Yesterday I had an architect tell me that the Office Depot and Pappasito's at the corner of Kirby and Richmond were going to be demolished and redeveloped. It makes sense to me, but I've not heard anything about it. Has anyone here heard anything? Edited February 5, 2014 by Dakota79 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sellanious Caesar Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 Yesterday I had an architect tell me that the Office Depot and Pappasito's at the corner of Kirby and Richmond were going to be demolished and redeveloped. It makes sense to me, but I've not heard anything about it. Has anyone here heard anything?The Pappasitos has already closed down. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lockmat Posted February 5, 2014 Author Share Posted February 5, 2014 Impressive. HFF is selling the property around the Pappasitos, but it does not include the Pappasitos. They must have had a different company marketing it for them. http://www.hfflp.com/PropertiesOnMarket/PropertySearchResults.aspx?MSA=Houston,%20TX 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClutchCity Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 Exciting times. First Montrose, now Kirby looks like it has multiple opportunities to get some decent high rise development. While the described project sounds like 2 ~20-30 towers, a 50+ story tower along Kirby doesn't sound too outlandish. I mean this is Houston, expect anything. I can't wait to see how these areas evolve in the next 5-10 years! We're going to need metro to do more than just reimagine their bus routes with all this increased density though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dakota79 Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 Wow. That's big news. Kirby will look like a mini post oak. It really needs a hotel. I have friends and clients that always have to stay at the Galleria or Downtown. Kirby would be a great spot for a W or something hip. Close to RO, Highland Village and Rice Village. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloud713 Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 (edited) yeah between this, the new Millennium complex and the potential development at Richmond, (i assume its not long before the same happens to the shopping center on the other (northwest) side of Kirby and Richmond, just south of this Thor development) and the West Ave Phase III expansion, along with the current phases of West Ave, the 2727 Kirby developments, pedestrian activity will be crazy in that area. all the more reason for light rail to come down Richmond past Shepherd. maybe Thor could buy the shopping center south of this plot for a Phase II expansion with office and hotel, (if office isnt apart of this development). then its only a matter of time before the Bed Bath & Beyond, and the Mister Lube and Wash are redeveloped to have one continuous flow of mixed use developments from Westheimer to Richmond.wow i just rambled hardcore. Edited February 5, 2014 by cloud713 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
htownproud Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 The Pappasitos has already closed down.It was still open as of last Friday. I suppose it could have closed over the weekend, but it is always slammed . . . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sellanious Caesar Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 It was still open as of last Friday. I suppose it could have closed over the weekend, but it is always slammed . . . .Sorry. My bad. Was thinking Ninfas but got them confused. Ninfas is permanently closed down. I tried to go there to pick up tortillas last month and saw it was closed for good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naviguessor Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 ^^ Relieved. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dakota79 Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 And lastly, maybe they could tear down those nasty corporate square buildings on the northwest corner of 59 and Kirby. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
por favor gracias Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 yeah between this, the new Millennium complex and the potential development at Richmond, (i assume its not long before the same happens to the shopping center on the other (northwest) side of Kirby and Richmond, just south of this Thor development) and the West Ave Phase III expansion, along with the current phases of West Ave, the 2727 Kirby developments, pedestrian activity will be crazy in that area. all the more reason for light rail to come down Richmond past Shepherd. maybe Thor could buy the shopping center south of this plot for a Phase II expansion with office and hotel, (if office isnt apart of this development). then its only a matter of time before the Bed Bath & Beyond, and the Mister Lube and Wash are redeveloped to have one continuous flow of mixed use developments from Westheimer to Richmond. wow i just rambled hardcore. Go ahead...get it out I like it...perhaps the BB&B and Mister Lube and Wash can become a ground-level/underground connection for a rail/subway station... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
por favor gracias Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 And lastly, maybe they could tear down those nasty corporate square buildings on the northwest corner of 59 and Kirby.Cheers to that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
por favor gracias Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 Wow. That's big news. Kirby will look like a mini post oak. It really needs a hotel. I have friends and clients that always have to stay at the Galleria or Downtown. Kirby would be a great spot for a W or something hip. Close to RO, Highland Village and Rice Village.I agree. The Upper Kirby area is arguably the "center" of Houston. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
htownproud Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 Sorry. My bad. Was thinking Ninfas but got them confused. Ninfas is permanently closed down. I tried to go there to pick up tortillas last month and saw it was closed for good.I think that Old Ninfa's is suppose to become a Pico's fairly soon. Perhaps it will have better luck with all the new activity in the area . . . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urbannizer Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 well that is interesting. there is no way the development rendered is anywhere near 1 million+ sq ft though. maybe 500,000.edit. they said it has 75,000 sq ft of retail space. there is no way even the 500,000 sq ft estimate i threw out is possible for a 13 story tower (2 of the floors being part of the retail), thats footprint doesnt even take up half of the block.Learned today that its 510,000 square feet. Unless the project recently grew in size, the description I quoted in my original post is for a different development. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subdude Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 Note the original posts about another 1m sq ft mixed use development, apparently not this one, have been split into another topic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urbannizer Posted March 29, 2014 Share Posted March 29, 2014 New design: 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TowerSpotter Posted March 29, 2014 Share Posted March 29, 2014 Oh wow!!! Much better!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monarch Posted March 29, 2014 Share Posted March 29, 2014 sleek... sexy... modern... this particular "kirby collection" shall catapult houston into the stratosphere. let's fly away! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sky-guy Posted March 29, 2014 Share Posted March 29, 2014 Do we know what the exact location is? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lockmat Posted March 29, 2014 Author Share Posted March 29, 2014 The first rendering looks different from the rest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uscats35 Posted March 29, 2014 Share Posted March 29, 2014 This city is maturing by leaps and bounds very quickly! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naviguessor Posted March 29, 2014 Share Posted March 29, 2014 (edited) I think we are seeing the SW corner of Kirby & W. Alabama with retail facing Kirby. I think...The ghost building in the foreground don't quite make sense. But they are not the point. Edited March 29, 2014 by Naviguessor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naviguessor Posted March 29, 2014 Share Posted March 29, 2014 Or is it a block South of there? Across from Grace's and Carraba's. I'm unsure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swtsig Posted March 29, 2014 Share Posted March 29, 2014 Isn't this the site on Kirby where roak, Hendricks and OTC currently sit? Bc that site will get redeveloped. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fortune Posted March 29, 2014 Share Posted March 29, 2014 It's the block surrounded by Coulquitt, Lake St, W Main, and Kirby. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naviguessor Posted March 29, 2014 Share Posted March 29, 2014 Yeah. I see it now. It'll be between the car wash and the gas station. Richton (my old street) will dead end near the bottom of those escalators. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fernz Posted March 29, 2014 Share Posted March 29, 2014 I don't know why, but I have a bad feeling about this one. I feel it either isn't going to happen, or will be severly scaled down, sort of like BLVD place. I hope I'm wrong though, I really like this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloud713 Posted March 29, 2014 Share Posted March 29, 2014 yeah!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swtsig Posted March 29, 2014 Share Posted March 29, 2014 (edited) I don't know why, but I have a bad feeling about this one. I feel it either isn't going to happen, or will be severly scaled down, sort of like BLVD place. I hope I'm wrong though, I really like this.Jesus man we hardly know anything about this and already with the negative nancy routine. What, are the other 500 projects going up not enough? Edited March 29, 2014 by swtsig 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avossos Posted March 29, 2014 Share Posted March 29, 2014 I don't know why, but I have a bad feeling about this one. I feel it either isn't going to happen, or will be severly scaled down, sort of like BLVD place. I hope I'm wrong though, I really like this.That's so random. I don't have that feeling AT ALL! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfastx Posted March 29, 2014 Share Posted March 29, 2014 I like the new rendering. Very much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lockmat Posted March 29, 2014 Author Share Posted March 29, 2014 That's so random. I don't have that feeling AT ALL! I could understand that vibe, but I would say it's too early to have a "confident vibe." I think it's because we're unfamiliar with the developer and it actually looks very nice and it's not the usual Houston design, which is a good thing. Many have had their hopes brought down with similar renderings. But this area is hot, so that might actually bring some confidence. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naviguessor Posted March 29, 2014 Share Posted March 29, 2014 So, what do we think these towers are? Tall Residental, short Office? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lockmat Posted March 29, 2014 Author Share Posted March 29, 2014 So, what do we think these towers are? Tall Residental, short Office? My guess is the square one is office. The round one is less functional, making me think it's hotel or residential - maybe boutique office. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avossos Posted March 30, 2014 Share Posted March 30, 2014 New design: I have to admit - this has turned out a lot better than I even hoped. Pulling for this! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texasota Posted March 30, 2014 Share Posted March 30, 2014 I'm not completely convinced by the glass sail on the rectilinear building.I also wonder what the tent...thing? will actually be made out of. In the rendering it appears to be made of light. That being said, I do think this is a positive development for upper Kirby. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fernz Posted March 30, 2014 Share Posted March 30, 2014 I could understand that vibe, but I would say it's too early to have a "confident vibe." I think it's because we're unfamiliar with the developer and it actually looks very nice and it's not the usual Houston design, which is a good thing. Many have had their hopes brought down with similar renderings.But this area is hot, so that might actually bring some confidence.You're right, I think I get that vibe bc I'm not familiar with the developer - and the developer does not have much experience with the Houston market, I think. But also because the design is a bit superfluous (not in a bad way), like it would be too expensive to build and turn a profit. I don't know, it's just a feeling. But like I said, I really like it and I hope I'm wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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