Urbannizer Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LTAWACS Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 Dear goodness ... here we go again.Good find Urbannizer. I wonder if it will be as white as the picture shows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avossos Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 The Energy Corridor developments just don't excite me. With all that is going on, I don't see this being anymore unique than anything else out there. We would have such an interesting cityscape if all of our high rises were within the loop. But I can't be mad about this - this doesn't look bad. Does anyone know if this is just a campaign to see if anyone is interested, or they are going forward and going to hope they snag someone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motis B Totis Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 Nice! I think it's funny how anyone can complain about the location of the project. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strickn Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 The only way to get highrises to concentrate more heavily inside the Loop is to have an east half of the metro that's as favored as the west. As long as the middle class feels pressed to ignore the east, the Loop will be increasingly far to the eastern fringe of the white-collar economy here. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avossos Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 The only way to get highrises to concentrate more heavily inside the Loop is to have an east half of the metro that's as favored as the west. As long as the middle class feels pressed to ignore the east, the Loop will be increasingly far to the eastern fringe of the white-collar economy here. That is a good point. might be a decade before that really kicks in. I see the SE coming along... 3rd ward and Riverside Terrace / UH area is starting to pick up which is cool to see. Eastwood too is making some headway, although kind of slow. Maybe when Buffalo Bayou park is extended east of downtown, we will see some real movement there. Nice! I think it's funny how anyone can complain about the location of the project. I find it funny when people like to share their personal feelings about specific comments, instead of their opinions on the projects discussed. architecture, density, urban planning are all topics worth being discussed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nolaboy Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 Is there a timeframe for the start of construction yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H-Town Man Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 The only way to get highrises to concentrate more heavily inside the Loop is to have an east half of the metro that's as favored as the west. As long as the middle class feels pressed to ignore the east, the Loop will be increasingly far to the eastern fringe of the white-collar economy here.An increased interest in a more urban lifestyle and public transportation might do the trick as well, along with a middle class that doesn't feel "pressed" quite so easily. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montrose1100 Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 (edited) The only way to get highrises to concentrate more heavily inside the Loop is to have an east half of the metro that's as favored as the west. As long as the middle class feels pressed to ignore the east, the Loop will be increasingly far to the eastern fringe of the white-collar economy here.That won't happen for a VERY very long time. Sure development will push east and slightly south of Downtown, but it will never get close to the ship channel. As long as the refineries and plants are burning the east will never look like the west. Unless science can trap/filter the fumes, it won't happen.I can see development pushing east toward 610 but it won't get too close. Edited January 31, 2014 by Montrose1100 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoustonIsHome Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 That won't happen for a VERY very long time. Sure development will push east and slightly south of Downtown, but it will never get close to the ship channel. As long as the refineries and plants are burning the east will never look like the west. Unless science can trap/filter the fumes, it won't happen.I can see development pushing easy toward 610 but it won't get too close.I agree, an in addition, The east side is more wet, more swampy, and the big storms seem to pass on the eastern side more often Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avossos Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 That won't happen for a VERY very long time. Sure development will push east and slightly south of Downtown, but it will never get close to the ship channel. As long as the refineries and plants are burning the east will never look like the west. Unless science can trap/filter the fumes, it won't happen.I can see development pushing east toward 610 but it won't get too close. The most I am hoping for - and I would be happy with this - is strong development on the east side, inside 610. I think the refineries are heavy around the beltway area, so i cant imagine anything outside of that being successful besides refinery related industry. We need the Bayou park. We need the communities alont i-10 East to be revitalized.We also need urban lifestyle to be more and more accepted and desired in Houston - which is happening and it is very cool! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montrose1100 Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 The most I am hoping for - and I would be happy with this - is strong development on the east side, inside 610. I think the refineries are heavy around the beltway area, so i cant imagine anything outside of that being successful besides refinery related industry. We need the Bayou park. We need the communities alont i-10 East to be revitalized.We also need urban lifestyle to be more and more accepted and desired in Houston - which is happening and it is very cool!The plants start a few blocks east of 610... depending on the wind you can smell them further west. Which is what will hinder development for... the time being. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swtsig Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 and just like that... we're completely off topic. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnhw2 Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 I like seeing what is going on in the energy corridor but most topics drift off to whines about the location or building by inner loopers, slows down the review of another areas progress but it's nothing new. Some of the same posters brag about all the office space in greater Houston, when it would not all fit inside the loop! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcus Allen Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 Wow, yet another development in the EC! Is this going to be in the Central Park West site? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChannelTwoNews Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 Wow, yet another development in the EC! Is this going to be in the Central Park West site? It's on the western boundary of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LTAWACS Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 Some of the same posters brag about all the office space in greater Houston, when it would not all fit inside the loop!I have this strange feeling that it would. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloud713 Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 I have this strange feeling that it would.Agreed, all of Houston's highrise development could fit inside the loop... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 You guys are insuferable. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloud713 Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 haha im not saying it SHOULD be.. im just saying theoretically it COULD be. there is 96 square miles of land inside the loop. your telling me we couldnt develop all of the 4-500 or so high-rises in the Houston area inside the loop? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcus Allen Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 And just how boring would Houston look if one had to travel through miles upon miles of strip malls, suburbs, and under five storey buildings until he came upon the inner loop which contained all the over five storey structures? I for one am glad that the development is spread throughout HTown. All the animosity regarding the inner loop verses the outer loop? Reminds me of the silliness arguing HTown verses Big D. I am glad Houston as a whole is booming again. And YES, I said BOOM to all of those who "dare not speak it's name". LoL 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swtsig Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 The reason all those buildings are getting built all over this city is exactly the reason why this city has become the economic juggernaut that it has. How easy posters on this board fail to realize/willingly ignore that. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcus Allen Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 Amen swtsig. Amen. LoL. C'mon guys and gals. It's our time specifically and Texas' time generally. Just the development here and in Austin alone ( we won't recognize our own Capital City in a decade) should make us beam with pride. We didn't hurt too bad in the economic downturn, and our bounce back has turned all the nation's eyes on us. Let's enjoy! What do you say? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timoric Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 (edited) - Edited July 8, 2019 by Timoric Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcus Allen Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 I believe Houston's energy sector is diversified. I also know HTown is booming regarding the techno/medical industry. I am not saying it certainly couldn't happen; I just believe based on everything I have read, Houston is doing it differently this time. We all know there are busts and booms. Personally, I am always in favor of conservative boom in order to counterbalance the impending bust. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urbannizer Posted March 24, 2014 Author Share Posted March 24, 2014 More renderings: http://www.transwestern.net/Development/Projects/Pages/Pinnacle-West.aspx 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveFromCan Posted March 24, 2014 Share Posted March 24, 2014 They also put up a bigger sign advertising the development next the original one along the I10 feeder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elseed Posted March 24, 2014 Share Posted March 24, 2014 Terrible.....I hate the Energy Corridor....and yes I want this in the loop... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swtsig Posted March 24, 2014 Share Posted March 24, 2014 Terrible.....I hate the Energy Corridor....and yes I want this in the loop... you might as well say you hate jobs and economic prosperity. hard to imagine we don't have an ignore function on this board. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montrose1100 Posted March 24, 2014 Share Posted March 24, 2014 you might as well say you hate jobs and economic prosperity.hard to imagine we don't have an ignore function on this board.There is...It will be interesting to get some height on that side of the freeway. I wonder what regular non-architecture geeks like us think when coming in from San Antonio for the first time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kennyc05 Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 There is... It will be interesting to get some height on that side of the freeway. I wonder what regular non-architecture geeks like us think when coming in from San Antonio for the first time. Probably this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rellott Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 (edited) There is...It will be interesting to get some height on that side of the freeway. I wonder what regular non-architecture geeks like us think when coming in from San Antonio for the first time. -See BP: "OH hey! We must be close to Downtown!!" I still think they should add a "Welcome to Houston- Energy Capital of the World" sign or something like that on the Highway 6 bridge/overpass for those heading into town Edited March 25, 2014 by rellott Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcus Allen Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 Absolutely! And now that you put it out in the Universe, I am sure it's only a matter of time before we get that welcome sign. In addition, I would love to see it also around Memorial City (outbound) and on the Sam Houston Tollway around Westheimer. I would like to see it as a circle/loop, over the freeways, ie., think Post Oak street signs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcus Allen Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 Once again, Elseed, development follows demand. Demand for residential development seems to lead in the inner loop. On the other hand, commercial demand seems to be focused on the EC, SL and the Woodlands. Deal with it. As everyone knows, I am proud of HTown for many reasons; one being that when those who don't KNOW Houston arrive via i45 or I10 or I59 from the south will probably scratch their heads wondering how many DTs does this city actually have?! I love it. And honestly, I believe HTown is becoming more realistic and relevant when it comes to creating several CBDs, because when a city becomes two to three hours wide (which I believe it will be by 2030) having just one CBD isn't practical. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elseed Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 you might as well say you hate jobs and economic prosperity. hard to imagine we don't have an ignore function on this board. Awwwww looks like someones panties are in a bunch!! That's a pretty dumb generalization...OK so then if you like the Energy Corridor then you must love Houstons sprawl the traffic it creates and you must hate urban density ....sound pretty stupid right?....yeah that's how you sound like cupcake....Oh yeah.....I HATE THE ENERGY CORRIDOR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elseed Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 Once again, Elseed, development follows demand. Demand for residential development seems to lead in the inner loop. On the other hand, commercial demand seems to be focused on the EC, SL and the Woodlands. Deal with it. As everyone knows, I am proud of HTown for many reasons; one being that when those who don't KNOW Houston arrive via i45 or I10 or I59 from the south will probably scratch their heads wondering how many DTs does this city actually have?! I love it. And honestly, I believe HTown is becoming more realistic and relevant when it comes to creating several CBDs, because when a city becomes two to three hours wide (which I believe it will be by 2030) having just one CBD isn't practical. And once again Marcus Allen, I understand development follows demand....There is both commercial and residential development happening in the Loop deal with it .....but I think most people would like all the buildings to be centralized....although I know its probably not gonna happen it doesn't mean I'm gonna change my opinion...so deal with it Marcus Allen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urbannizer Posted November 5, 2014 Author Share Posted November 5, 2014 http://www.bisnow.com/archives/newsletter/commercial-real-estate/houston/3302-up-close-with-rob-bridges/ Now the firm's kicking off Pinnacle West, 19 acres that'll be developed across four phases. The team could build up to 1.5M SF, all size tenants, probably a couple ofmid-rise office projects highly amenitized with fitness, food and conference facilities. He's envisioning pre-leasing one building before breaking ground, but then starting two simultaneously. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toxtethogrady Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 Stream are the guys who couldn't get 22 Waugh off the ground, so I hope they've got their financial ducks lined up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urbannizer Posted November 6, 2014 Author Share Posted November 6, 2014 Stream are the guys who couldn't get 22 Waugh off the ground, so I hope they've got their financial ducks lined up.Stream Realty is not involved with this project. The developer is Transwestern. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fortune Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 Stream are the guys who couldn't get 22 Waugh off the ground, so I hope they've got their financial ducks lined up.What does Stream have to do with this ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toxtethogrady Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 Transwestern gives me a little more confidence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triton Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 I realize CBRE has nothing to do with this project but a coworker told me this one is dead. Can anyone confirm or deny? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kennyc05 Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 Anyone have an update? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KinkaidAlum Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 Someone pulled the plug on the Energy Corridor. 10 of the 16 largest sublease spaces are out West and the overall suburban direct vacancy rate is now over 21%. Rents are also down. You'd be an absolute moron to build in this market. You'd be a bigger moron to lend. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kennyc05 Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 Hopefully it comes back around. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triton Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 1 hour ago, KinkaidAlum said: Someone pulled the plug on the Energy Corridor. 10 of the 16 largest sublease spaces are out West and the overall suburban direct vacancy rate is now over 21%. Rents are also down. You'd be an absolute moron to build in this market. You'd be a bigger moron to lend. Yea, no way this is going forward anytime soon. We aren't even close to a healthy market for office right now. In fact, we will most likely see quite a sizable amount of defaults in the office market this year and the next couple of years: (This is for Houston alone) 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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